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OutWrite 09-15-03 08:15 PM

Vets Newbs Ands Herbs..Check This.. It's Long..But Read Plz
 
Aight Check It... Im Not Even Gunna Cap These Werds Im About To Spray...

The following statements are not to be taken as "disses" or "punchlines" im not 'clowning" or
"ranting"

I am a Single MC in a rap culture...millions of stars in the universe revolve around a single
point..and its not me...

Im not defending anyone..or takin offensive on anyone...

Im not even here to TRY to help YOU...id like to be on a site where this type of bullshit
is cut out..

So without further adoo... i address RB in the only way i know how...

-------------------------

First issue i'd like to adress...is "vets" directly discriminating against "newbies'
due to time spent on the site.. you say theyre no good herbs? making them mad and
calling them names and clownin on them gets nothing done, if you "vets" were just starting
here now...you'd NEVER be able to elevate to what u are now... NEVER .. Y not help kids
to elevate... the tutorials arnt enuff..most of them are from newbies themselves trying to
get sumthin stickied to seem important.. they need serious help..in elevation and de-herbing.
.it's time to stop clowning and help...

ill leave this topic open for discussion..because it's important

next issue
------------------

making RB a better place..

let's get out of our current mind states and open ur mind to new ideas..

hear me out

instead of treating RB like a lil town/society/city/LIFE ITSELF.... treat this site..
like a...WEBSITE

smartest thing yet is the bannin waves.. even tho i DO think most are in vain and just
because the "mods" can..most are called for and not random..they r for reason and not for
fun...but i said MOST...there are some mods out there who treat RB like life and have to
get their kicks out of bannin ppl for cheap little beefs..arguments that take place on AIM
and otherwise..not even RB..but im not trying to rant..this is contrustive critisism..

onto the constructive parts..
-------------------

i personally have no suggestions.. i just want all the ppl out there..of 20,000 members..
that have these types of thoughts.. to unite..

u can make a differance as one..but as a union..if RB unites..in all the states their in..
newb..vet..herb.. whatever.. if we unite.. we can achive not only happiness..but a fun
envirement to show off ur rap skillz..or even polish up...or to start rapping..
rap is not only a genre..its a culture..its a way of life, lets unite in all ways to make
RB the best it can be...best place to be...best place on the net
------------
random thought: suggestion, maybee a place for kids who r just starting to fuck around
and elevate... put a semi-vet..someone like bash..bazzy.. as a gaurd..to beable to post
in other areas,..they have t approve your request..which could take a grip..or just a hot
second.
the front lines..elite front lines bull-isht was sposed to help sumthin like this.....
now look at fronts and elite fronts..they're crap...still...
------------------------

help me to help you... im not trying to be...nor do i even want to be..a mod.. an admin..or
any official like that.. i am the voice of reason..of logic..i asses both sides..
and ill speak the truth no matter what the consequences..
i do realize that by adjusting the way RB is..it could mean the site wold be down for a
hot second.. but it's a small price to pay for a better envirement

this is long..and im sure ur not reading any of this...

its ur problem.. it's the way YOU FUCKING LIVE it's what u breathe everyday.. help me
to help you... RB united is the way.. with change is the only way to get things done

bitching about it does nothing...

1 love

KoNcEpT 09-15-03 08:33 PM

i agree....why do the so called "vets"
pick on newb'Z...it really makes no
sense...and why do people beef over
the net? it's just so fuckin stupid and
make no sense....well i dont really
feel like elaborating on the other
subjectZ you mentioned but i agree
basically on everything you said.....


YEAH LETS DE-MOD BAZZY :) lol
caps makes me a better person.


WuRd GuLLy

OutWrite 09-15-03 08:35 PM

lol

I Aint Talkin Bout That Bull-Isht.....

Im Talking About RB 3.0.. the 3rd version...RB Perfection Series...feel Me?

mdizz 09-15-03 08:45 PM

oh i get it
well
newbs make them selfs by doin stupid shit like dumb posts and startin threads in wrong places to were they get tha 'herb' status.
also newbs come on tha site and beat more newbs and think they are tha shiny new shit also givin them tha title herbs.
those who come on tha site..battle...get seen....make intelligent posts...become ok heads.....


uh...soooooooo vets can see this..as they have been there done that seen it a million times it gets annoying so they feel tha need to let u know in full effect if ur an herb..site wouldnt be fun or interesting without that..all of us be all chummy and buddy buddy? fuck that keep shit tha way it is but yea cut down on tha herbish fags who do stupid shit and get banned....ban'em so they can never come back

Chrit 09-15-03 08:49 PM

Vets only clown herbs...
There are new kids with potential that we dont fuck with....

What?...

OutWrite 09-15-03 08:51 PM

^^Thats A Bad Way To Have Your Mind My Brother...


Im Not Even Really For The No Beef Thing.. These Are Compiled Ideas Of RB Members Ive Spoken To...

I Took The Most Logical Ones..

If I Beef With [random super mod here] I Get Banned

If I Beef With [random nobody here] I Battle Them...

Thst's Fuckin Moronic

Hypocritical

And [another big werd for stupid here]

Please Feel Free To Add Ideas.. PM Me Suggestions.. PM Me Your IM Or Sumthin.. Ill Holla

or Drop Them Here..


Fuck This Beefin Shit.. I Will Not Beef With Anyone Who Trys.. This is A Thread For Making Things Better.. Please Hold Stupid Comments

Perfekt 09-15-03 08:58 PM

I only Bag on Herbs who are too fuckin lazy to take a minute and read the rules... Its like Seriously can you not take 1 minute out of your life........ If a new person to thte site follows the rules i respect them...

the biggest problem i have with this website is the fact that if you open your mouth to speak teh the bad truth however, truthful and honest it may be you will get banned.... My 2 cents

Chrit 09-15-03 09:08 PM

Aight look....

RB always has had herbs that make the site unbearable at times... We used to just deal with it and let them do their thing... This was before all the bannings. After all, the vets still had elite and could just ignore the herbs. Since that point there has been an influx of herbs all-over the site... Making 100's of crews... battling in Elite like they are ill... It just disgusts the VEts to see something they helped build and mold be turned into a laughingstock by herbs that get cocky... This is why you dont see vets try anymore... Hell half of them just used played concepts when battling here ue tot he fact a win on RB means nothing anymore...

Thats my two-cents...
And that is why RnR and RB have more prestige than RB right now...

They dont tolerate herbs as they are like a plague...
If gone un-checked they multiply and suck the life out of a site...

And that is the super-breakdown like whoa...

Strategies 09-15-03 09:23 PM

I feel you on the vet tip , because a lot of so called vets do pick
on the newbies and call them herbs , eventhough some of them
are.But some vets on here are hypocrites , always bitchin' about
herb this herb that when some people on here have about 2 or
more accounts , and then when it comes down to a battle they
want to vote for themselves.

Now that's some hoe shit seriously.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ONE<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Accelerate 09-15-03 09:45 PM

Most vets that are talking to are more like self appointed Vets. Not even that Nice. When I first came on the site, I tried to get into Elite Frontlines, tried to win 4 battles and shit, so that I could be considered elite, and battle against better people. Now Most people whose records are 89 million are still in Frontlines battling people who are on their first battle. I thin there should be different types of frontlines. One for people who are new to the site, so that they can learn the ropes of battling and shit, the next one should be for people who have been on the site for a while, or are at an exceptional skill level. The last should be for members who are really elite. Records aren't anything to me, but when I see D/r with the top 1o records, it does seem a little embarrasing, considering that I want to better my own battle record, knowing that it won't be done because of such people. Just what I feel, there are some people who have been on this site longer that can tell you how they feel, but from my battle experience this is how I feel.

Emotion 09-15-03 10:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Perfekt
I only Bag on Herbs who are too fuckin lazy to take a minute and read the rules... Its like Seriously can you not take 1 minute out of your life........ If a new person to thte site follows the rules i respect them...

the biggest problem i have with this website is the fact that if you open your mouth to speak teh the bad truth however, truthful and honest it may be you will get banned.... My 2 cents


That is word.............. they should have 4 different fronlines

1. Newbs not neccsarilly herbs just people that are new to battlin

2.People that are elivating and are starting to get good at battling

3. People that battle reguarly and have quite a few wins and are also good at battling

4. strictly the best on the site..

and evrery member should be assigned to a frontline of their skill .......

just an idea

Rappad 09-15-03 10:12 PM

Re: Vets Newbs Ands Herbs..Check This.. It's Long..But Read Plz
 
Quote:
Originally posted by =-_OutWrite_-=
Aight Check It... Im Not Even Gunna Cap These Werds Im About To Spray...

The following statements are not to be taken as "disses" or "punchlines" im not 'clowning" or
"ranting"

I am a Single MC in a rap culture...millions of stars in the universe revolve around a single
point..and its not me...

Im not defending anyone..or takin offensive on anyone...

Im not even here to TRY to help YOU...id like to be on a site where this type of bullshit
is cut out..

So without further adoo... i address RB in the only way i know how...

-------------------------

First issue i'd like to adress...is "vets" directly discriminating against "newbies'
due to time spent on the site.. you say theyre no good herbs? making them mad and
calling them names and clownin on them gets nothing done, if you "vets" were just starting
here now...you'd NEVER be able to elevate to what u are now... NEVER .. Y not help kids
to elevate... the tutorials arnt enuff..most of them are from newbies themselves trying to
get sumthin stickied to seem important.. they need serious help..in elevation and de-herbing.
.it's time to stop clowning and help...

ill leave this topic open for discussion..because it's important

next issue
------------------

making RB a better place..

let's get out of our current mind states and open ur mind to new ideas..

hear me out

instead of treating RB like a lil town/society/city/LIFE ITSELF.... treat this site..
like a...WEBSITE

smartest thing yet is the bannin waves.. even tho i DO think most are in vain and just
because the "mods" can..most are called for and not random..they r for reason and not for
fun...but i said MOST...there are some mods out there who treat RB like life and have to
get their kicks out of bannin ppl for cheap little beefs..arguments that take place on AIM
and otherwise..not even RB..but im not trying to rant..this is contrustive critisism..

onto the constructive parts..
-------------------

i personally have no suggestions.. i just want all the ppl out there..of 20,000 members..
that have these types of thoughts.. to unite..

u can make a differance as one..but as a union..if RB unites..in all the states their in..
newb..vet..herb.. whatever.. if we unite.. we can achive not only happiness..but a fun
envirement to show off ur rap skillz..or even polish up...or to start rapping..
rap is not only a genre..its a culture..its a way of life, lets unite in all ways to make
RB the best it can be...best place to be...best place on the net
------------
random thought: suggestion, maybee a place for kids who r just starting to fuck around
and elevate... put a semi-vet..someone like bash..bazzy.. as a gaurd..to beable to post
in other areas,..they have t approve your request..which could take a grip..or just a hot
second.
the front lines..elite front lines bull-isht was sposed to help sumthin like this.....
now look at fronts and elite fronts..they're crap...still...
------------------------

help me to help you... im not trying to be...nor do i even want to be..a mod.. an admin..or
any official like that.. i am the voice of reason..of logic..i asses both sides..
and ill speak the truth no matter what the consequences..
i do realize that by adjusting the way RB is..it could mean the site wold be down for a
hot second.. but it's a small price to pay for a better envirement

this is long..and im sure ur not reading any of this...

its ur problem.. it's the way YOU FUCKING LIVE it's what u breathe everyday.. help me
to help you... RB united is the way.. with change is the only way to get things done

bitching about it does nothing...

1 love


^^Do you know bouncedoggydog? If not, you should get in touch with him some time, he'd shed a lot of light on this topic.

And I agree with everyone who posted in this thread, especially chrit, he pretty much summed it all up.

8-off 09-15-03 10:30 PM

at least im a vet, and herbs are herbs, aint shit u could do about them

self 09-15-03 11:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by azztrofizziks
at least im a vet, and herbs are herbs, aint shit u could do about them


LMFAO!!! HERB!!! Never say that. Your not. No one respects you. HoE.

Mental God 09-15-03 11:15 PM

ok first off...

when i first came to rb i was seriously wack... i battled some guys who were really good and got my ass handed to me... and i think thats ok... there should be NOBODY on this site with a perfect record thats like 100-0... everyone should get their ass handed to them. It makes you try harder and understand what you are doing wrong. Thats what helped me elevate, i dont really consider myself a vet because of my record or post count, but i consider myself a vet because i took the time to elevate and read all the rules... you dont become new to a site and break all the rules expecting people not to make fun of you... you have to EARN the privelage to break the rules. Most of the "VETS" joined about the same time i did... but there are those who are original people from when the site crashed. But i see no problem with "vets" battling newbs... as long as its not hibitual.

And fuckin grow up, calling people names on the internet hurts their feelings? please! if you get hurt when someone calls you a name you NEED to hang yourself, its the end for you.

As for the latest "banning sprees"... im glad most the people who have been banned have been banned. Some are just usless nerds *cough*masterblaster*cough* but when you get banned for talkin shit to someone on aim... or simply cause someone doesnt like you, thats bullshit. I can understand if its harassment, but not just beef.

And beef is what keeps this site going, if there was no beef and everybody was "buddy buddy" why the fuck would we battle? Where would all the dope punchlines go? there would be no fuckin dope personals either. So stop cryin... growq up.... and take it like a man.

and that.... is DUPER WORD

Mr.Christensen 09-15-03 11:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by TREACH P


That is word.............. they should have 4 different fronlines

1. Newbs not neccsarilly herbs just people that are new to battlin

2.People that are elivating and are starting to get good at battling

3. People that battle reguarly and have quite a few wins and are also good at battling

4. strictly the best on the site..

and evrery member should be assigned to a frontline of their skill .......

just an idea


I agree but then... who decides where you go
this has to be based on opinioin because there is no FACT that someone is better than someone... cause 'White America' says Em is the best.. i say Rakim... someone says Jay-Z...whos right?

so your idea is worth a look but i dont think it will work...cause you might think your better than me...but (insert admin who determins rank) says im better than you...

this will lead to more hate on the site (back to example) you would hate me...then this has to go to IR and u get banned for hating on me... then (example) Chrit says im not that good... hes well respected...(said admin) lowers me to a different level.... i start hating the regime (like iceberg) and then im a herb...all cause of opinion...

Its that simple...

Chrit 09-15-03 11:39 PM

How about me?

lol...

Anyhow... this thread is pointless...
RB will alsways have herbs...
Vets will always clown herbs...

Accelerate 09-15-03 11:42 PM

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!



but word. there will always be herbs, but atleast for newbies who want to elevate and not be herbs, they need to be helped out a little more.

self 09-15-03 11:44 PM

I'm going to start to delete your guys posts. It was a serious thread...

G.Hod 09-16-03 12:09 AM

The only reason RnR is noticed for its so-called "prestige" would be its rate of skilled-writers to unskilled-writers. . RB and RnR are different breeds, and therefore, should not be compared. Here at RB, we accept everybody; and, for the most part, do our best to promote elevation and success. Not to frown on RnR, for it is home to the most accomplished writers on the 'net, but I'd rather be here where new talent is discovered daily.

Mental God 09-16-03 12:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bruklor
I'm going to start to delete your guys posts. It was a serious thread...


^^^^^then why dont you delete that post? it has no signifigance

Mr.Christensen 09-16-03 12:36 AM

Wow heres an idea worth throwing out...
Newb apreciation month... still working on the name

The End, alldig, supermods (etc.) pick a vet, and a newbie with some potentian and they have to work together on an open mic/audio/poety...etc

heres an example of how it can work

Create a thread...
anyone willing to do it checks in... the mod of the thread (forum) picks a vet who checked in, and a newb...and gives them a topic for an open mic...they then have 1 week to work on it and drop...

(this idea might require and entire new section...ie: another section in Textual Territory)

vets can help with up and comers making the site ill, newbs can be helped with structure, flow, vocab ie...wackness center can only do so much...

my 2 cents, id love to hear if anyone thinks this is worth while, and weather it can work... (keep this idea in mind when your thinking of new mods...lol bad joke)

Mental God 09-16-03 12:40 AM

I think that we should ship all the newbs to tijuana... in a carboard box... with some bling bling... and an escalade... to see how lopng they last

Carmen 09-16-03 01:52 AM

You know I'm glad I read this thread and the posts from Outwrite, M.DiZZ-iLL, Chrit, SkiddleZZ, Treach P, ill Mental, The Realist and G.Hod. You guys got my mind wide open. Everybody here should be required to read this thread. Yeah I'm new here but I'm all about stepping my game up. And I have noticed that they are people here that got to be put in check. But all in all this is a pretty cool site.

Emotion 09-16-03 02:49 AM

EVERYBODY was a herb or a newb at some stage i was and some would say i still am it's something u elivate from...

G. Buttersworth 09-16-03 05:10 AM

stop bitchin you fuckin idiots...


chrit... sorry to say but you're a herb.


don't like rb.com?

so leave asshole... no one needs your fake skill here...

rb.com... is wack.. so bring life to it....


no?


then go... we actaully don't need you, bitchin....


.. make my life easier.



how can you complain.. on a site... you don't put a dollar into...

i swear.. rnr is a bunch or freeloading nobodies...who complain...
about skill.. they actually don't possess... please make my life easier.. you fake mod... b4 we bann you.. for being a bitch.


damn can't even take a day break. i'm too old for this


oh..lol.. closed.


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