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don cardyac 05-03-07 07:08 PM

why people think cam'ron is wack.
 
i've noticed that some of the most illest and creative rappers get marked off as wack just becuz the listeners aren't smart enough to understand what they are talking about. i know alotta people are gonna argue about this so please state your feelings.

Ysdat 05-03-07 07:19 PM

Creative?! Nah sorry kid, but he anything but creative.

Alot of kids would rate Camron over chino for example.

Im get used to being crazy
as a double jointed female docter bent over delivering her own baby

vs

Ay, yo your crew, switch siders
When I come through, hey Cam
Dick riders


Im glad tru life hit the fucking cunt.

Anyone > camron

WhoAmI 05-03-07 07:24 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by JAY Z
Just cos you don't understand him doesn't mean that he nice,
Just means you don't understand all the bullshit that he writes


the quote says it all my friend

Journal!st 05-03-07 07:30 PM

fucker is wack man....Tzar explained it well off man

Mets 05-03-07 08:23 PM

people either love cam or hate cam.

i like cam alot because he does his own thing. which is mad rare in hip hop these days. every coast, burough, city ..whatever, sounds exactlly the same. cam, juelz, hell, 40 ..these dudes just have a swagger and confidence that is unmatched. and cam can tell a story with the best of them, he can be as lyrical as anyone in the game. dudes just hate him so much that they dont bother to even listen to his albums. cam is a monster. i dont usually defend him cause i dont give a fuck what the next guy is listenin too. but i figured id give my opinion.

don cardyac 05-04-07 10:23 AM

agreed^

check cam's wordplay and punchlines. i do understand him now and i used to didn't but as i got older and learned somemore of the terms he used and slang that he twists in in order to have more creative lines, i understand that cam is lyrically a monster. y'all would just rather listen to that uninspired noncreative 50cent "i'll aim for your head, your white tee a turn red" bullshit. and that line that jay-z did is just inspiring the people not to listen to lyrics that they don't understand the 1st. time around. not knowing that the ones that'chu dont understand when your young are usually the sickest lines, and jay-z is a great lyricist also so i don't know why he'd say something like that.

So.Rell 05-04-07 07:34 PM

"I'm stuck like Stucco, gotta let go uh oh" Wow Cam is just to sorry, if he would get his own swagger and stop tryna be like JR Writer maybe then I would respect him...but as of now...he can bury his self...Dig a Hole!!!

CannabarzĀ² 05-05-07 01:18 AM

How do you go from

Aiyo, when it comes to bread, niggaz make loafs
You run around with fake toast
Money or your life, nigga I'll take both

Under my tongue is where my blade rest
My 12 guage stress is even more scarier then an Aids test

to

I'll leave you wholy, holy, you'll say "Holy Moly"

^ LOL

Eight, boom, boom, my ace boon coon
Shake, bake, skate, vroom, vroom
Seventh to eighth, zoom, zoom, boom, boom tune
For I get like that boom, boom room
Wreck 'N Effects, zoom, zoom, meh poon, poon

^--- The Fuck??!

yea...he was nice in Children of the Corn...but hes garbage now.

Dufflebag Boy 05-05-07 12:29 PM

cam'ron is a hypacrite. he "exposes" jay-z as a biter which wasnt even something he put together himself. then he goes and bites shit. you can always try to come back arguing that "he's just recycling famous lines to show respect" blah blah. you know damn will he's doing it cuz he cant come up with any good lines himself

he's boring and UNoriginal. sounds the same in every track. and is on that played out "im a gangsta im'a bust my nine" type retarded bullshit. how original. he must be one of the first ta be a "gangsta rapper". he really contributes something new to our genre of music. sike. gangsta or not his songs blow more than the guns he claims he has.

xCadaverx 05-05-07 04:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by CannabarzĀ²
yea...he was nice in Children of the Corn...but hes garbage now.



nuff said.
same with the pastor.

Ransum 05-05-07 06:31 PM

cam'ron is fucking hot,
anyone who say's hes wack should die with hes album in they mouth...

he been nice since BIG L WAS AROUND an he was only 15 maybe 16 spiting with him....
and he still droping fire just not as much MEANING he aint droping that many track's lately but the tracks he do lay down ARE STILL HOT.....

J.R WRITER is the 2ed best outta dip-set....
he'll probley be better then cam'ron soon enough....

P To Tha R! 05-05-07 08:49 PM

cam now has lost it but back in the day with children of the corn with mase, big l and bloodshed..he was killin it

Ebircs 05-05-07 09:28 PM

cam = garbo..................

nuff said

chip 05-06-07 08:50 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ransum
cam'ron is fucking hot,
anyone who say's hes wack should die with hes album in they mouth...

he been nice since BIG L WAS AROUND an he was only 15 maybe 16 spiting with him....
and he still droping fire just not as much MEANING he aint droping that many track's lately but the tracks he do lay down ARE STILL HOT.....

J.R WRITER is the 2ed best outta dip-set....
he'll probley be better then cam'ron soon enough....


^this guy... big l was the shit, and so was cam... big l is dead, what's cam's excuse?! j.r. writer is the shit, juelz is the shit, shit, even jimmy jones is droppin hot... cam? i wanna like him, i really do, but he hasn't dropped anything really hot since he bought that pink limo... nuff said

Chris Stylez 05-07-07 12:05 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ransum
cam'ron is fucking hot,
anyone who say's hes wack should die with hes album in they mouth...

he been nice since BIG L WAS AROUND an he was only 15 maybe 16 spiting with him....
and he still droping fire just not as much MEANING he aint droping that many track's lately but the tracks he do lay down ARE STILL HOT.....

J.R WRITER is the 2ed best outta dip-set....
he'll probley be better then cam'ron soon enough....



^^^ how are you going to be better than your ghost writer

don cardyac 05-07-07 10:39 AM

this dude cam be droppin albums every year and a half. killa season's singles we're sick too, listen to wet wipes, suck it or notor get 'em daddy. did you hear what he did on the second verse of get 'em daddy where every line was letters or numbers, and y'all say that cam ain't creative, plus this dude was mad funny or suck it or not talkin' bout "you dont like men? me niether what a coinkidink". nigs say that cam makes up words but in reality he dont, it just be slang that most of y'all aint up to date on yet. yet still cam puts out fire every year so y'all need to stop fakin' and go cop an album.

Fresh Wun 05-08-07 05:07 PM

Because he makes up his own words.. N tries to diss people with lines like "Shucky Duckey, green light 1,2,3" I mean... Don't "Shuga Duga" explain why he's so damn terrible. On most tracks he makes up his own beats. I mean, you can put any bit of jumbled up compound syllables that don't make sense, but you'd think it came from Cam. Peep..

I'm Hot as the Capo
I polish my auto
Im killin you turkeys
No more gobbles n gobbles

Don't that sound like sumthin' Cam'd say?

I mean really, homeboy can't even make a decent hook anymore. Jim Jones is makin' catchier hooks, lol.

Fatal.Wordz 05-09-07 03:42 PM

cams wack period.

iamthatdude87 05-09-07 05:15 PM

LOL At sum of the haters haha ......

don cardyac 05-10-07 09:38 AM

@freshwun

thats one of his flows but when he does it his lyrics make sense. it might not make sense to you cuz you might not be up on todays slang or somethin' but cam's s*** be str8 and its more creative than that same ol' borings*** 50 be saying. i mean if you had to chose between listening to cam's wordplay, punchlines and creative flows or 50's boring non-creative "i'm a shoot you, i'm rich and i snitch" BS. c'mon now, the only reason y'all hate cam is cuz y'all dont understand the slang he spit, or y'all don't like people with new creative flows cuz y'al like them same ol' borin'ones that everybody's either reusing from jay, pac or nas. like i said at 1st, fans are whats killing hip-hop, not the rappers.

iamthatdude87 05-10-07 04:04 PM

^^^^owned.................

Sonny Barz. 05-10-07 08:04 PM

Cam is only whack on some songs. But some songs, he's nice as hell. Now, somtimes he do be makin' up his own words(his "Crunk Music" verse). But most of the time, it be NY slang. He got crazy multies and punchlines. It just goes over most niggas heads.

Bottom Line:

Cam ain't whack, he's just not always hot.

don cardyac 05-11-07 09:22 AM

even cams so called "made up words" arent really made up by him but they are real hood terms like, hoody hoo "is new orleans slang for sayin' either squad up or callin' for drugs i forgot but its one of 'em. "dunny" is queens talk for son or friend. etc.they all mean something but if you aint from certain cities than you may not know what he's talking about but once you find out you'll be like "damn cam is sick".

but theres a message to this all cuz cam aint the only one cuz it happens to people like andre3000, jay-z, nas, redman, lil wayne, ugk, etc. fans waive 'em off as wack rappers just cuz there lines go over there heads, when in reality the rappers aint wack, but the fans are just too brainwashed by that boring dumbed down s*** that they hear on the radio to understand when a real emcee rips it.

Cannabarz-K.O.R 05-11-07 04:58 PM

camron...is on a whole plateau of wackness...whether or not you don't understand "some" or "few" of the terms hes rapping his lyrical capability is that of 8 year old child and nothing anyone can say here can debate that fact....He was crazy in Children of the Corn and I'm sure listening to a couple of his older tracks you would agree hes become sloppy and lazy to the artform in which he used to be so good at... Cam is garbo now ...has nothing to do with the terms he uses or the slang he incorporates throughout his tracks....

UhHhLaZy 05-11-07 05:06 PM

Cam is wack

Basic rhyme
Same slow flow

And is just boring t listen to

I get agrivated just listening to him talk

Blah

LaTiNKiTTeN 07-05-07 12:03 PM

...the kids who dont like cam are the same ones who believe the top rappers of all time are lil wayne n 50 cent........

WhoAmI 07-05-07 12:40 PM

so u don't think cam fell off compared to when he was in children of the corn?

LaTiNKiTTeN 07-05-07 01:16 PM

...first off he was average back then...he didnt stand out n didnt last...then he came back with a new look,a new flow,...n a whole new style... n different,humorous lyrics...which are still complex but of course not every line...n he is makin much better songs then before..now he is more original n stands out,n prolly makin a lot more money...n he's got a crazy flow,n his lyrics crack me up...
u know whats difficult nowadays?being different then the next guy...he's done that,successfuly
u pay attention n he always says something crazy in all his songs,n i aint talkin bout okey dokey

chip 07-05-07 04:51 PM

no hate kitty, but cam is getting a lil tired, not neccesarily that he's whack, he just doesn't bring it like he used to... Weezy is hot, period... 50 cent... who the fuck brought him up, don't even get me started... 9 bullets? shit i'm still suprised that outta 30 million he was the fastest swimmer...

p4ntzistheish 07-06-07 03:35 PM

Since when was sucking called being original? And he's not even original. Dr. Seuss had him beat decades ago.

07-07-07 05:41 PM

www.Urbandictionary.com

I dare you all to go look up what cam says, and bring back the info. Every slang word, including some made up words, are in there.

See if what cam says actually makes sense. lmao

07-07-07 05:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by don cardyac
even cams so called "made up words" arent really made up by him but they are real hood terms like, hoody hoo "is new orleans slang for sayin' either squad up or callin' for drugs i forgot but its one of 'em. "dunny" is queens talk for son or friend. etc.they all mean something but if you aint from certain cities than you may not know what he's talking about but once you find out you'll be like "damn cam is sick".

but theres a message to this all cuz cam aint the only one cuz it happens to people like andre3000, jay-z, nas, redman, lil wayne, ugk, etc. fans waive 'em off as wack rappers just cuz there lines go over there heads, when in reality the rappers aint wack, but the fans are just too brainwashed by that boring dumbed down s*** that they hear on the radio to understand when a real emcee rips it.



'Hoody Hoo' According To Urban Dictionary:



1. the call for the killaz, usually yelled by players, pimps, and/or Master P

"HOODY HOO!!!!! That's the call for the killaz." -Master P

4. Used by roleplayers when excited or content/pleased

"I Did it! I slew the swack iron dragon! Hoody hoo!!"

___

'Dunny' According To Urban Dictionary:

1. Slang for "friend" or "homie"

"What up dunny? "

2. Australian term for any toilet.

"I need to go to the dunny."
"I jus' dropped a fat shit in the dunny."

Wow, cam's dope.

LaTiNKiTTeN 07-08-07 12:31 PM

^^ not as dope as u cuz appearantly u from MURDAVILLE

Cocaine 07-08-07 05:03 PM

Cam is fucking weak.. his flow is boring and repetative.. people talking like cam is a lyrical powerhouse when u could set him next to dudes like Chino or Sage Francis or something and he'd get destroyed

big daddy 07-23-07 11:28 PM

camrons cool if you want to listen to rap but he aint lyrical in any sense of the word. yes he uses lyrics but hes not lyrical. case closed

xCadaverx 08-01-07 12:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by big daddy
yes he uses lyrics but hes not lyrical. case closed

Golly, you're so smart!

don cardyac 08-07-07 09:55 AM

cam got multi, worplay and punchlines all over his lyrics, and most of what'chall hate on him and dipset for making up is what most of y'all bammas be copyin', that pink shit was wild but then a whole lotta people started copyin' even hov... when jim started sportin' that rockstar s***, tru-life etc. we're talkin' down on him than that style caught on, the only thing that cam is flawed at is switching his flow, but dude already has 2 sick flows that he canfit those punches and multi's into so i dont really know how y'all hate the man. dipset got the best rap group of battle rappers u gone find. exept prolly d-block on a good day, check 40cal,jrwriter,hellrell,S.A.S,bezel, got the meanest bench in the game. can't nobody see dipset in a battle wit' punches multi's or trends and y'all know it so y'all is just dry hating with no evidence...

y'all just be like "cam is wack... with no supportive reasoning to ur statements...

xCadaverx 08-07-07 05:29 PM

"Got my frilly flack...............
On my billy back............
Cuz im blicky black............
Like the frilly snacks."

Thats what Cam sounds like to me, all-together. :thumbup:

La Cosa Nostra 08-08-07 10:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by don cardyac
why people think cam'ron is wack?


Maybe they heard his music

xCadaverx 08-09-07 12:02 AM

It's not the music, its him.

The lyrics and flow and everything, really.


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