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Logic The Goonie 01-15-06 01:49 AM

Fucka death penalty
 
The United States has been known for hypocrisy in all other countries if you want to admit it or not. One of the most hypocritical things in this country is the death penalty. Not by any means am I against the death penalty, just in the context of the United States' values.

All over America, religion is humongous. In the pledge of allegiance that students say every morning of every school day, God is mentioned along with he idea that we are "under" him. Shit, even on our money is says "In God We Trust". Yet, our government still finds it necessary to take some of the powers of God into it's own hands.

As Christian's we are taught that we will suffer for our sins in hell if we do not repent, but because of the laws in America, we suffer not only in the afterlife but in our existence on earth for sins such as theft and murder. If we truly believe that God is supreme ruler and he will make those who have committed sins suffer, why do we throw murderers away in prison and even sentence them to the death penalty? It seems stupid as fuck to me at least.

If we want to put people in prison and sentence them to the death penalty we should change what we say sometimes. It's kind of like me going around saying I love my dad and then going home to disrespect him all day and pretend like I run the house. Stupid. Open your eyes people, see how badly you're getting pimped by the "democracy".

Thoughts?

Incineratedrose 01-15-06 03:13 AM

like, google "CUADP".. its "citizens united against dealth penalty".. its a pretty cool site. Has some pretty cool shirts and stuff.

Incineratedrose 01-15-06 04:11 AM

reword in english?

*Antic* 01-15-06 05:10 AM

it's not just the death penalty, it's the system itself.

it costs about $18,000 to lethally inject someone.

bullets cost about 50 cents.

if you tried hard enough, you could get a knife for free, perhaps.

it's wrong to kill someone, people will always kill other people, and without the death penalty as retribution, people would probably go buckwild with the killin'.

The government should just stop actin' like it's noble. It's barbaric, but kind of necessary.

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Blay'all 01-15-06 05:12 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by *Antic*
it's not just the death penalty, it's the system itself.

it costs about $18,000 to lethally inject someone.

bullets cost about 50 cents.

if you tried hard enough, you could get a knife for free, perhaps.

it's wrong to kill someone, people will always kill other people, and without the death penalty as retribution, people would probably go buckwild with the killin'.

The government should just stop actin' like it's noble. It's barbaric, but kind of necessary.

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people who kill people = not afraid to die


the death penalty is just straight fucked up... not logical at all

Key... 01-15-06 05:20 AM

I hate the damn supreme court granting this death penalties.

and word at Antic

Indeph 01-15-06 01:42 PM

I believe all people can in fact, change. Everyone's just going about it the wrong way. Killing people for mistakes contradicts one of the main aspects of life. Learning from your mistakes is how you gain wisdom. And it almost seems like the death penalty is givin out like some sort of wild card. Because I've seen hanibals eat like 200 ppl and get sent to a mental institution, and cassidy is being considered for death. Do you have to be INSANE to not get the lethal injection or what? They're eliminating the main purpous for prison. It isn't just punishment its rehibiliation.

Incineratedrose 01-15-06 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey Carolina
people who kill people = not afraid to die


not necessarily, you have to take "self-defense" cases into account. Or lets say, some guy is beating the shit out of your mom, and if he continues, she'll die. So you shoot / stab him. Thats not self-defense, cuz you're not defending yourself. But its still murder. Doesnt mean you're a cold blooded savage. You're just saving the one you love.

Magic5 01-15-06 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Efecx
its not necessery at all in europe i dont think there is a country hat has the death penalty n i can guarentee there is alot less murders here than in the us, the reason y there is so much homicide in amerca is cause guns are legal that shit is stupid


Guns themselves are stupid. I have no problem, and support, guns being legal for protection purposes. If somebody breaks into my house I'd have no problem shooting them in the face without giving a fuck. But, some people neglect the whole reason why guns are legal, and that's where the problem lies. Guns being legal is not, by any means, "stupid" though.

Magic5 01-15-06 05:21 PM

How the fuck do you know that? You live in Ireland, so who are you to pass judgement on the majority of the American citizens? Who are you to even say that there is too many "stupid" people in America? Yet another dumbass post from you. You really need to learn to shut the fuck up in threads where you have no idea what you're talking about. Typical liberal retard.

Magic5 01-15-06 05:26 PM

Oh, ok. So traveling to America once or twice in a few years gives you the right to say that our population has too many "stupid" people? Yeah, that makes sense.

Idiot.

Blay'all 01-15-06 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hopesfall
not necessarily, you have to take "self-defense" cases into account. Or lets say, some guy is beating the shit out of your mom, and if he continues, she'll die. So you shoot / stab him. Thats not self-defense, cuz you're not defending yourself. But its still murder. Doesnt mean you're a cold blooded savage. You're just saving the one you love.

no, lol actually that is NOT murder...
and that would not constitute the death penalty...

dumbass.

Incineratedrose 01-15-06 06:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joey Carolina
no, lol actually that is NOT murder...
and that would not constitute the death penalty...

dumbass.

If you kill someone, no matter WHAT the causes, its called murder.

Mur-dur noun:
To kill (another human) unlawfully.

Which yes, killing anyone, is against the law. So shut your mouth you faggot. Just because its in self-defense, or defense of another, all that does is change it from 1st degree (premeditated) to 3rd degree. PLUS, What about second degree murder? (murders of passion).. Like your wife is cheating on you, so you kill her and the guy shes cheating with. That is a situation of intense emotion, and you just freak out. Does that mean you're cold blooded killer? Or just that your emotions got to hyped for the situation.

Sobe. 01-15-06 06:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Efecx
dude look america has more murders than any other country in the world ask yourself y..............................dam i can only think of 1 reason

wtf

you are a stupid shit.

Magic5 01-15-06 06:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Efecx
dude look america has more murders than any other country in the world ask yourself y..............................dam i can only think of 1 reason


LMFAO. Wow @ the inaccuracies in that statement.

Magic5 01-15-06 06:59 PM

Efecx, go look at the death rates of third world countries. You know, the countries where the women are killed and beat to death because they're not on the same social level as men. That statement just shows your ignorance.

Incineratedrose 01-15-06 07:02 PM

Or just go watch Sahara :mad:

Sobe. 01-15-06 07:04 PM

wait.....

I got a really cool idea that will solve this death penalty thing...

.. Don't kill people for no reason!

Indeph 01-15-06 07:05 PM

^ Illy idea yo.

Incineratedrose 01-15-06 07:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sobe.
wait.....

I got a really cool idea that will solve this death penalty thing...

.. Don't kill people for no reason!

Uhh, gay ?

Magic5 01-15-06 07:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sobe.
wait.....

I got a really cool idea that will solve this death penalty thing...

.. Don't kill people for no reason!


Some of the people that are terminated due to the death penality did do a lot of shit wrong, meaning there could have been a reason depending on your viewpoints. That's what this thread is asking. Everybody will agree that people shouldn't be executed if they didn't do anything; that point is old news and doesn't address the true issue of the thread. Son.

Incineratedrose 01-15-06 07:09 PM

Yeah, old news, fucking faggot.

Sobe. 01-15-06 07:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopesfall
Uhh, gay ?

uhh... stfu?

Quote:
Some of the people that are terminated due to the death penality did do a lot of shit wrong, meaning there could have been a reason depending on your viewpoints. That's what this thread is asking. Everybody will agree that people shouldn't be executed if they didn't do anything; that point is old news and doesn't address the true issue of the thread. Son.

wtf is the true issue of this thread.

I quit.

Incineratedrose 01-15-06 07:14 PM

I think to argue your point intellectually, which thanks to efecx, isnt happening.

Magic5 01-15-06 07:17 PM

^ Pretty much. Also, to argue for or against the death penalty. The most popular arguement is between religious people saying the government is playing the role of God, and other people saying that if you kill 8 people or whatever, you deserve to die. But, what the fuck? Nobody says, "Let's go inject some people with something fatal for no reason! YEAH!" That = not the point of this thread.

Incineratedrose 01-15-06 07:21 PM

Yeah, you friggin idiot.

Blay'all 01-15-06 07:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopesfall
If you kill someone, no matter WHAT the causes, its called murder.

Mur-dur noun:
To kill (another human) unlawfully.

Which yes, killing anyone, is against the law. So shut your mouth you faggot. Just because its in self-defense, or defense of another, all that does is change it from 1st degree (premeditated) to 3rd degree. PLUS, What about second degree murder? (murders of passion).. Like your wife is cheating on you, so you kill her and the guy shes cheating with. That is a situation of intense emotion, and you just freak out. Does that mean you're cold blooded killer? Or just that your emotions got to hyped for the situation.

no, because if its self defense, it is not unlawful, and therefore is not murder.

Incineratedrose 01-15-06 07:56 PM

Dude, you're fucking retarded, taking human life, is unlawful. Shut up. Theres been so many cases where people have gotten jail time, or some form of punishment for self-defense murders.

Blay'all 01-15-06 07:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopesfall
Dude, you're fucking retarded, taking human life, is unlawful. Shut up. Theres been so many cases where people have gotten jail time, or some form of punishment for self-defense murders.

and also the majority of of those self-defense cases, people are found innocent, as that is the law... thats the whole fucking purpose of the term "self-defense," by law its not illegal... and dont use mis-trials as a defense for you, because they're mis-trials... you REALLY have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

Incineratedrose 01-15-06 08:00 PM

You live in North Carolina. Rofl, point made.

Blay'all 01-15-06 08:02 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopesfall
You live in North Carolina. Rofl, point made.

WWWOOOOOWWW


yeah, good point :bored:
what was i thinking, you clearly know exactly what you're talking about in this argument..... WTF

that was the most obvious "i just realized i am completely wrong and a dumbfuck so i'm going to change the subject" that i have ever seen...

and LLLLMMMFFFFAAAOOOOOOOOO @ you saying that and being from ARIZONA!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Incineratedrose 01-15-06 08:05 PM

Yes? Since North Carolina is soooo intellectually above Arizona.

Blay'all 01-15-06 08:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopesfall
Yes? Since North Carolina is soooo intellectually above Arizona.

i was REALLY not aware that States have intelligence.
and yes, are you kidding me? we actually have civilization... not just a big fucking desert. oh yeah, and Phoenix :bored:

Incineratedrose 01-15-06 08:08 PM

Thus showing your ignorance, and level of stupidity in thinking that i meant the actual STATE has intelligence, and not the inhabitants.

Blay'all 01-15-06 08:09 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopesfall
Thus showing your ignorance, and level of stupidity in thinking that i meant the actual STATE has intelligence, and not the inhabitants.

sarcasm. go look it up.


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