I am the son of God.
 

I am the son of God. I AM God.

are you referring to the fact that in the christian faith man is made in the image of god, by god, therefore being a part of god and technically being God?

Sort of I guess...

But in another way, I am actually God... =

- Eternal.
- Creator of the Universe, Heaven and Earth.
- Endless Love/Compassion

Or at least I would be if I wasnt so foolish. But yeah, im God.

I am god..

Go forth and conquor my son..

You're God too?

Man, im so happy for you! Thats great!

What do you think god is in the first place?

Well thats a bit of a daft question. God is me.

Realistically.

Your only going off information from human churches or a philosophy that is not ultimatly correct.

Therefore you cant definitivly say you are god.

God could be an intelligent alien lifeform which created the unique conditions life requires to spawn billions of years ago ultimatly resulting in what we have today.

Choose your words carefully.

Man are you actually CRAZY?

Here I am, I have experienced that I am actually the one true God and absolutely nothing in the bible can dispute that, and it enforces what im saying.

And there you are telling me some alien from billions of years ago just out of nowhere created the universe. Whats your basis for that? You met this alien? Ever heard anything about it or seen any proof?

Aiight look, before we carry on..
...............................I need more information
If you got shit to prove construct an innovative statement
To say shit, in a logical context thats complex
So we understand exactly why you think ya god friend...
I'ma defender of the truth, so I have-to-strike back
& magnify raps, from cats lack-ing tight stats
Step right back, I might snap if you aint write facts
Get tied back & have ya spine hacked by my rhyme axe
Aiight fag?
Start writing your response & be gone
Tell me why your so pretencious you entitle yourself god

OK before I go on and on with reasons why I am God...

I want you to tell me a reason why im NOT god. (Keep in mind that my reason for saying I am God is more than just the absence of a reason for me not to be god)

Ya askin reasons why ya not god?
Heres one, mortality.
Actually, come to think of it
Your not omniscient
& the shit you spit is wack to me, often
How can you be god sent
Please omb, you need to drop scent
Of this crazy concept, ya trynna drop kid

But man, I AM immortal... And also omniscient.

And im not god sent. I cant send myself into myself, can I?

Like I said it before, when my weapon is drawn
I'll spray the organ contents of ya head on the lawn
You aint immortal fucker you aint omniscient neither
State ya case, fuck the fiction you speak bruh

Seriously...



I'm still waiting on an answer....

It works like this, and I made this thread because today I just understood the bible. After studying it for so many years, it finally made sense once I moved away from the preconceived ideas and teachings of the church.

But yeah it works like this:

I am the universe (aka existence etc).
The universe is omniscient, therefore I am omniscient.
The universe is eternal, therefore I am eternal.
When I release all of my preconceived ideas, thoughts, conditioning, ego and self, I live in the eternal now of existence. In this state, and most other states of my conciousness it takes a blink of an eye to cultivate compassion and love for anybody, even those I hate.

Now of course I have not come so far on this path to be in that state all the time, but I realize its reality and I have experienced it. When I look at the bible, everything it describes rings true with my experiences.

I could not possibly come to any other conclusion... I AM God. Is that me being selfish or raising myself up above anybody? Fuck no, its me being realistic. Im God, you are too. Whether you choose to realize it or not is on you, but hardly anybody seems to see this nowadays.

You are right..........And you are wrong at the same time.

God is a word that describes a connected entity, for which you are only a minute quantum level size spec in reletive terms to the more massive whole that is the universe.

Therefore you cannot be god if you follow your observations correctly. You can only be a small part of what makes up god. If god is infact, existance itself.

OK then, if im not God (the universe), what am I?

I got a better question..

What if god isnt the universe itself but a seperate entity?

Well I dunno why you would think something with every described characteristic of God isnt God... (btw dont limit this conception of "God" to just christianity)

But yeah... If God is a seperate entity, we can't be talking about the God from christianity.

But yeah I guess im an idiot if some sort of external being is in charge of the universe. To me though that just doesnt seem logical/plausible/believable/possible... Well maybe possible, but not really. It just seems so naive.

You and satan are both liars.









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Nah.. Think deeper man...

For starters, where are you getting your 'characteristics of god' from? God is not a defined class like a species. Humans began with the word god (in ancient tongues) and decided (by fate) on the existance of an ultimate power and slowly world philosophers and wise men created all these concepts on what they believe to be the characteristics of their said 'god'.. The christian god? The christian 'version' if you'd call it that of god stems back to the jewish people adapting religious belief's taken from the sumerian culture. (like the book of genesis).

If you break it down and think on terms more logically based on no pre-disposed opinions on what god may be. Then what exactly is god?

Would god be the natural force allowing the conditions of this planet the ability to harbour life? Or is god the innitial cause during a moment of the most extreme singularity before the big bang that caused everything to set in motion? Or is god a far more intelligent lifeform than us who used their ability to manipulate space and time to create our solar system out of floating or generated matter therefore creating us and our light, and our planet possibly in the measure of 6 units of time measurement no longer known to the human race that we now boldly name 'days'.

Could he be a combination?

That innitial cause, mixed with a race so advanced they were able to live to the dying moments of their universe and simply manipulate time and rewind it back to the beginning of everything thereby creating a never-ending cycle that we are merely puppets or innocent bystanders in the larger scheme of things.

We could be guinnea pigs to a higher intelligence in our galaxy or universe that is testing the reactions of lab created artificial life to situations of remote existance in a spiral galaxy.

What is god to us then?

We dont actually know anything about god.

So how can our concepts of a larger power in the universe even begin to be definitive and correct?

Dont get caught up too much in what you think you know about any religious concept. And there is absolutly no way you can say your god logically....

Q: Oh... Thats a shame. So you aren't God? I thought at least you would be -_-.



Man this is the most fucked up mystery I have ever come across...

From my point of view (my endlessly cynical, sarcastic, provocative, logical, critical, stubborn, must-see-to-believe etc point of view...) this shit is all layed out on a platter right in front of my eyes. I see the truth about this stuff. Its actually insane. A year ago I would never have even thought myself to be a heavily religious person. I would have been the first cunt to bag on a spiritual person just for being spiritual.

And now here I am, I am so convinced, I believe what I believe 100% with absolutely no uncertainty. It just seems so obvious, like... wtf its right there in front of us all no matter where we come from. And hardly anybody knows about it!

How I feel right now is like... If I was outside next to a tree. And to a guy who walks past I say "Yo, check out that tree. Shits dope." And the guy goes "Uhhh. Thats obviously a car you fucking idiot. Look at it." But theres the trunk, the leaves... And im like oh well. Another guy walks past and I say "Hey, how about that tree, eh?" and the guy goes.. "Mate, I dont know what the fuck youre talking about. Thats a building." And theres the tree, blowing in the wind with a bird sitting on it. And another guy walks past and im like "Yo, *points to tree* what you reckon of the tree?" and he goes "Well... I dunno. Could be a tree, I guess, but like... We can never actually know, you know?"

Its like wtf? Its a tree. Thats what its like for me. Like... Everything makes 100% absolute sense, no disputes or qualms, its just the way things are. Can you even imagine that feeling? To actually KNOW the answers to the so called "mysteries" of life?

Call me dellusional, but ive never seen things so clearly.

And if the universe is not eternal, and there is an end, your entire concept is gone.

Do you really think its possible for the universe to end?

It just cant happen.

I don't know. . I've ended it a few times.

The mind can decieve you man..

So many people have started cults and weird religious sect's and followings because theyve thought so vividly that THEY knew all the answers and THEY've worked it all out..

Which is why, if you have no proof to back up your view that youve worked it all out.........Then theres nothing you can say thats even slightly convincing beyond "OMG.. I know I'm right..........please believe me! OMG"

Nothing is certain in the universe. What we know now could be compleatly antiquated in the future as new ideas are formed and tested.

I mean, how wrong would you be if the concept I put forward about an intelligent life form or species that were so advanced they could rewind time in the universe and manipulate space compleatly, what if the universe we lived in was artificially lab created and maintained. You just dont know man... Especially not based on the information we believe in throughout the history of the earth....

Think about it....

Yeah. Like I understand of course its hard to believe. I'm the kind of guy who immediately dismisses cunts raving on about whatever when it comes to matters of religion and philosophy.

Thing is the proof is right there. People just dont seem to get it. Theres the many (well not really many, but a fair few) practitioners of this belief, and a few other people who identify with me and I them on matters like this... But most people just go, mate, what are you on about? Its like im pointing to all the proof, truth and answers, and instead of looking at whats there they look at my hand. Well obviously my hand has nothing to do with what its pointing at -_-.

Nothing is certain in the universe?! That doesnt sound very orderly at all... :thumbup:

Man, you can say that stuff, but its right there. Let me have a go. How wrong would I be if the universe was actually a little black spot of fungus on an alien life forms cock. Or what if the universe is some big fat sweaty cunts lunch, and hes been cooking it for billions of years because he is oblivious to time, and one day when his oven made of love and peanuts goes ding, hes gonna take out the universe and devour us all. I'd be pretty freakin' wrong.

Saying I dont understand you is a cop out..

I am very aware of this theory your talking about. It did dawn on me once before a while back aswell with a different perspective that if the universe is god, all religions that were taught to have numorous gods were exactly the same as the religions dismissing this idea in favour of a singular god system because god is essentually a concept of 'everythingness'. And when I thought of that, the thought also occured to me that every living thing in existance is in effect, god.......in part.

However..

As I've said. We, as a species, have no way of truely knowing how we got here and what god is. This whole existance is god way of thinking is simply speculation and untill there is any proof, your going to continue getting the majority of people thinking your drifting a bit sideways from reality.

And that reality is.............We arnt omniscient. We dont know the true nature of god, therefore we can only philosophise on possibilities. Therefore 'nothing is certain' to us.

Man, if you had experienced this state of mind you wouldnt be disagreeing with me. -_-

Its more than just the god is the universe thing.

Your trying to say god is the ultimate whole of existance itself right?

What is it about your theories do you believe I'm not understanding.

The part that you have to experience and realize for yourself to understand. If I explained it, it would be incorrect... Come to think of it its like what lao tzu said: "Those who know do not speak, those who speak do not know." If I explained it to you, I would have no idea what I was on about.

To realise it for myself?

I wasnt told about this shit dude......Like I said in one of my previous posts, I came up with these same theories and they all seem so real.......But then I analysed if there were any way these ideas could be proven wrong... And what I've been saying to you ever since is the conclusion I came to.

For an idea to be concrete, it requires actual proof...

Not just you knowing so vividly in your mind that this is true.

Man what youre talking about isnt what im talking about. This little god thing is a novelty, just a way to apply it in christian/laymens terms. It goes a lot deeper than that.

I know exactly what youre talking about. Those theories how you're like "oh yeah... shit... that makes a lot of sense ay" but its all just speculation, nothing rock solid because its impossible to prove that kind of shit.

Im not talking about that. The shit im referring to has an abundance of proof. If it wasnt true, I wouldnt wholeheartedly believe it and thats that.

Lol.. Ok man..

But if your going to make a statement like this, your going to need to explain what it is your talking about instead of just prancing around like "ohh i know this big universal truth, but nobody else can understand it!!!"

Start explaining............

OMB......... Now your off your rocker man....


fo real...

Nos: What am I? Go check out buddhist, taoist, hindu, <insert whatever else here (be it eastern or western philosophy)> beliefs/texts/people and come to the realizations for yourself. I can't teach you a thing.

Tito: I thought you were christian?

Nah man..

To be honest I dont think theres any 'realizations' I need to come to here. So far you have talked about a concept I thought of way back and found logical flaws with..

And your acting like theres more to it that is somehow beyond my grasp..

You need to just explain yourself, or copy paste someone elses writing in here that you think may explain it better than you can.

Im gods key to the devils brain.

If you found logical flaws with it, we arent talking about the same thing. Youre just talking about the universe as god thing, right? Just out of curiosity, what logical flaws are there with that?

It's not that its beyond your grasp... Its that its beyond my ability to convey. If I were to explain myself I would be raving on and on forever, and likewise if I were to copy and past all the shit ive studied, heard and read it would take a very long time.

Logical flaws?

You dont know the true nature of god. Thats one big ol blaring logical flaw right there.

Your opinion is that existance itself is god. However for all you know that could be so far from the true story and here you are with your ideas worshiping a big load of vibrating energy with a 50 50 chance of being created by an external entity anyway.

And FYI-- The reason I'm only talking about the god part of your theories is because you havnt actually said anything else... Youve just told me 'ohh man theres so much more to it, you just wouldnt understand!!"

Usually if I know something, I'll atleast be able to explain it and put it into a half decent paragraph to even begin to explain where I'm comming from.