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~LyRiCaL-JeZuS~ 12-27-03 01:26 AM

The Most Lyrical MCs
 
Who do yall think is the most lyricly skilled MCs of all time
mine are in no order
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Big Pun
Big L
Chino XL
Rakim
Nas
Biggie

Jes 12-27-03 03:01 AM

what other skills are there for an emcee to have if it's not lyrical?

player_baller89 12-27-03 03:13 AM

Yo, I agree on biggie but you cant leave out snoop, dre, or TUPAC

DEL the funkee 12-27-03 03:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jes
what other skills are there for an emcee to have if it's not lyrical?


I don't know.
Maybe theres someone out there that like grunts and does caveman language over beats :huh:
Im sure that emcee wouldn't haven any sense of lyricisim..

Jes 12-27-03 03:32 AM

so then there is a skill category outside of lyricism, that an emcee can have?

the most skilled barking emcee? DMX

how narrowminded of me

Crysis 12-27-03 03:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jes
so then there is a skill category outside of lyricism, that an emcee can have?

the most skilled barking emcee? DMX

how narrowminded of me


yes there is skills outside of Lyricism

Flow is one....you can have good lyrics ...but if you have shit flow it makes it suck ass

Jes 12-27-03 04:06 AM

well that doesn't seem logical to me...

you can't have flow unless you have good lyrics, i mean i pay no mind to flow if the lyrics are shitty, but i could listen to tight lyrics and think it has bad flow.... do i make any sort of sense?

mmm... maybe we have diff. meanings of what constitutes as good lyrics

i guess i feel that an emcee's skill should first and foremost be lyricism... i don't typically gauge emcee's on flow... that is secondary to lyrics in my opinion...

wogzta 12-27-03 04:30 AM

^ flow is how liquidy they sound... if they fit the beat... if they can control their breath properly... it has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual content of the lyrics...

I judge rappers in 3 categories:
Flow
Delivery
Lyrics (split into wordplay and rhyming)

id rather have an awesome flow and average lyrics than awesome lyrics and a crappy flow

anyway, answering your question... the most lyrically skilled MC's, in no order:

Rakim
Canibus
Redman
Nas
Big L
GZA
Eminem
Cormega
Method Man
KRS-One

Emotion 12-27-03 06:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by player_baller89
Yo, I agree on biggie but you cant leave out snoop, dre, or TUPAC



ROLAMOIGHIDGHHIH

There all wack mainstream cats, try listenin to Aesop, Slug, Can-I-bus

AbstraX 12-27-03 06:47 AM

IN ORDER

Canibus
Chino XL
Copywrite
Apathy
Cage
Royce da 5'9"

Crysis 12-27-03 02:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jes
well that doesn't seem logical to me...

you can't have flow unless you have good lyrics, i mean i pay no mind to flow if the lyrics are shitty, but i could listen to tight lyrics and think it has bad flow.... do i make any sort of sense?

mmm... maybe we have diff. meanings of what constitutes as good lyrics

i guess i feel that an emcee's skill should first and foremost be lyricism... i don't typically gauge emcee's on flow... that is secondary to lyrics in my opinion...


it is first and foremost lyricism, but you cant understand the lyrics as good with out the flow....they kinda go hand in hand...you have to have both or it wont be as good

Mr.Christensen 12-27-03 03:01 PM

Rakim

everyone else just battles for 2nd place

Lokinator 12-27-03 03:04 PM

Dos Noun

prophacyz 12-27-03 03:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by wogzta

Rakim
Canibus
Redman
Nas
Big L
GZA
Eminem
Cormega
Method Man
KRS-One


i gotta agree wit dat right der'

~LyRiCaL-JeZuS~ 12-27-03 06:15 PM

omg lyricism means that the lyrics are way more complex and clever and shit thats what i meant by the most lyrical

self 12-27-03 06:25 PM

Um...If there not Lyrical, how the fuck are they an emcee?

Sign language on the mic.

This is worse then the "pac's alive!!!!!!!!" threads.

Jes 12-27-03 07:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Habitat


it is first and foremost lyricism, but you cant understand the lyrics as good with out the flow....they kinda go hand in hand...you have to have both or it wont be as good


agreeable...

^^Bruk just summed up what my initial point was, my point was directed at the thread's question... "who is the most lyrical mc"... when it comes down to it, it's really who's the best emcee... what is an emcee if not lyrical? a rock n roll star...

Jes 12-27-03 07:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bruklor


Sign language on the mic.



yea, thats how def I am...

MuhThugga 12-27-03 09:12 PM

blah......

You know what.....

MuhThugga is the most lyrical emcee

I hate that word, "lyrical"
It sounds retarded

Emotion 12-27-03 09:27 PM

lol speacally when its said by dumbass netceess....

MeNTiLL 12-27-03 09:59 PM

Off the jump ... Tupac of course ... Besides him ... Pun ... Thought ... Big L ... Kweli ... Mos ... BIG ... Andre ... Face ... Jay ... And ohters ... LoL ... But to narrow it down to one ... I think Pac

MeNTiLL 12-27-03 10:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bruklor
Um...If there not Lyrical, how the fuck are they an emcee?

Sign language on the mic.

This is worse then the "pac's alive!!!!!!!!" threads.


I dunno man ... I know some people who cosider Chingy and Nelly MC's ... LoL

Cuthroat 12-27-03 10:28 PM

let me say something lyrics aren't everything i mean you can't just have lyrics. If you don't have emotion or meaning in ya rhymes then who cares. Some people just say something cuz it's "lyrical". Tupac had good lyrics(not tha best)but he had meaning and emotion that's why he sold not just lyrics.

Jai Blaize 12-28-03 12:49 AM

no order:

B.I.G.
Big L
Canibus
Method Man
Nas

Split. 12-28-03 01:42 AM

lyrically wise
1.canibus without a doubt
2. rakim
3.el-p
4.Jus Allah
5.all the heiroglyphics crew
6.aesop rock
7.eminem
8.killah priest

flow wise:
1.kool g rap
2. rakim
3. canibus
4. chief kamachi
5.journalist

Krunkest:
1.Ying Yang Twins

best barker:
dmx

illest emcee alive:
1. SplitSouL

that about covers em all

.::Narcotics::. 12-28-03 02:01 AM

pac...an if u dont think so..ill prove ya ass wrong

main streams a joke..only u crackers that suk at rappin listen to it

the ones that got skill no about underground..music.



jacka-strickly underground...
nikatina.
hollow tip
kurupt
x-raided.
woodie.
lunasicc.
sum local sac town mcs...strate off the chains..

Tech nine..


i can go on....

EyE QuE 12-28-03 02:03 AM

Pac, big pun, biggie, chino xl, eminem, raekwon = most lyrical mc's ever :)

.::Narcotics::. 12-28-03 02:07 AM

i disagreewit chino Xl hes a bitch

raekwons up there but i wud switch his name wit a few from my lsit in a heat beat....

but yea good choices

Fl~O~mEtRy 12-28-03 02:26 PM

Pac=Definately, thats y he one of the greatest cuz a lot of people could relate
Biggie= almost tha same with pac peole cood relate
Eminem= his sht is just good
Nas=one of the best storytellers of all time
Outkast=even tho u might disagree, they are known for their wierd lyrics, thats what makes em great cuz they different

those r tha best, but pac had good flow and the most deep lyrics, Changes, Troublesome, Keep ya head up, Dear Mama, i mean he has sodl 35 million albums while he was alive n almost doubled that since, to i think that says sumthin
Del The Funky homosapien=also, his lyrics are hard hitting, he also has tha best vocab n flow, listen to tha song Jaw Gymnastics

DEL the funkee 12-28-03 02:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SplitSouL

5.all the heiroglyphics crew


LMAO!

You can't really be serious with that?

Pep Love is dope, Del is dope.... Thats about it....

Casual, Z-man.... I won't mention the others...... hahahahaha

Meters 12-28-03 02:36 PM

GZA genius gets my vote.

TheUnderRated 12-28-03 03:14 PM

canibus..
rakim...
raekwon...
kast...
twista....if you can understand him.......

~LyRiCaL-JeZuS~ 12-29-03 12:29 AM

Yo WHoever sais Chino XL sux ....u should fuckin stop listenin to rap right now!
that cat got ILL metaphors and rhymes fuckin rhyme animal
and i love pac really i do but seriosly he wasnt that lyricly complex..........compared to MCs after him anyway

Penskills 12-29-03 11:33 AM

???????
'KRS-ONE
'PAC
'NAS
'RAKIM
'TALIB

C.Quip 12-29-03 11:35 AM

Rakim
Canibus
KRS-One
Aesop Rock
Biggie

nam_208 12-30-03 01:41 AM

grand master flash

Knock Out Punch 12-30-03 02:39 AM

Jae Millz

High Class 12-30-03 03:28 AM

For lyrics that accually bring meaning...
Tu-pac, Nas, DMX, and me mind went blank... LOL
I think Kanye west will become a good lyricist.
If he writes his own shit, you know...

CALYPSO 12-30-03 03:41 AM

by lyrically, do you mean what there saying in there lyrics or are you saying diversly, what type of lyrical schemes they use, and how well the use them to say there lyrics, if that's the case, i beleive biggie, and eminem are pretty good although eminem uses the same m.o now. with those multis.

Emotion 12-30-03 05:19 AM

tupac wasnt good at lyrics


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