I don't know if anyone else noticed..
 

But I feel that now a days rappers aren't creating hits, they are simply buying hits, like its been a few certain producers who make hot beats, just blaze, timberland, neptunes, etc. I feel that rap has fallen of... becuase it seems like we have come to a time... where its the beats that sell not the lyrics... like pac the cat made any beat sound hot..... for example hit em up.... its a pretty simple beat... but he made it seem hotter than it really is... and now you got shit like cash money comin out... people feelin they shit but pay attention to the lyrics.... any one else agree?

in the words of little john "YEAHHHHHHH"

They're old

I know its old but.......im jus statin shit like........ g - unit n 50 cent.... look at the beat in the club.... then listen to the lyrics n get back in this thread

No, mainstream is like that. Listen to more underground hiphop.

No doubt

people in the club don't want music with a grimey beat and deep lyrics they have to actually think about.

You ain't gunna catch bitches in the club shakin they shit to immortal technique

They want "hot beats" right thurrrr...

^l0l...i'd love to see "Cause Of Death" bagin' int he club sometime..would be classic!!^

Meh...You need and decent beat and good lyrics, not many mainstream people can accomplish that these days... if you want dope lyrics move on into underground (immortal technique, Cormega, Saigon, Tragedy Khadafi etc...)

Another good head directin his beliefs towards the hatred of Comerced Music....Good on ya Blud....

Listen to some Brother Ali

Re: I don't know if anyone else noticed..
 

cash money is old and gay

Yeh i agree with the maker of this thread... but mainstream rap has been like that since 1992.

Not all of it is bad though... but if you want lyrically strong songs, check out some underground artists. Just be careful - before you buy an underground album or bootlegg it, download a few songs first. Underground artists are all different and they wont all appeal to you, even if they are good.

I can agree to you at some point, the entertainment industry realized what a market they could create off of Hip-Hop and blew it up. Now I'm not a pac nutrider but he definately wasn't just a rapper with hot beats. He had a versatile delivery and was one of the most political mainstream rappers ever (I know, not saying much), the same can be said for a number of mainstream cats. Recently nobody is bringing raw lyricism to the mainstream though IMO. I think Nas is up there, although he is falling off to a degree he can still spit better lyrics than half the scene right now.

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Yeh D-Verb, but 1992 is when it started. It was completely sell out... by 1998 most mainstream rap became poo.

It wasnt completely sell out*

shut up the fuck up. from 92-96 were some of the best years in hip hop. so many of the CDs i own are from that time period. i hate how people act like if it wasnt 80's rap it wasnt good or isnt true hip hop.

and wogsta. arent you the former eminem groupie that just started listening to rap no to long ago? and you not even from the US so dont talk. your country got all the bullshit pop songs, or the artists from where you live so dont speak on US music.

if you seen my top 50 list when i posted it here 95 percent of my CDs on it were from the 92-96 period. i had a few newer ones like brother ali, and a few older ones like all the rakims and some BDP.

I got TWO words for you in regards to lyrical content useless, rappers buying beats for hits.

MACHO MAN
RANDY SAVAGE.

c's right best years in hip hop was like 88-96 after that it started fallin offf. wasnt really till like 2000 wen it really becmae all bout ggggg g g unit and all that shit suburban kids buy

Yea I agree, look at 50cent you think that shit would be tolerated if Pac was still around?? Fuck No, Eminem's shit probably but not Ja Rule's shit and 50's and Jay Z with all that fucked up shit? Master P and album every 8 months WTF? That shit just wouldn't last.

beats are a lil important in songs
but lyrics are supreme to everything but some people
don't think dat n e more

yeah buying hits is lame

Ye i think u right..basically in order to be a platinum sellin rapper in tha game u gotta make tight beats coz shit aint bout tha lyrics no more....i respect people like hov coz wen u listen to a jigga track ur forced to listen to what he say's n how he flows no matter tha beat (eg in my lifetime remix)..

holla hovito!

in the words of little john`s echo "yeahhhhhhh"

i have to disagree lately most rapperz been doin tha damn thang

I agree completely

i feel you kinda cuz when then beat first starts on the song your feeling it but its the lyrics that make you admire it though.....

yo, underground rap is where its at, should be the opposite but mad people only listen to mainstream on the radio and mtv n shit

look at banks and cassidy and jada dey gots hot beats and dey got hot lyricz so rap aint fallin off people jus got diffrent tastes in lyrics