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T West 01-24-04 09:37 PM

Abortion
 
Thsi is probably a worthless thread but it's really something that needs to be dicussed. Anyways, Friday in class, we saw a video of an abortion taking place. After watching that video...I am 100% against abortion. I used 2 think it was ok and watever, but that was one of the most disturbing things I ever saw. Im not very good with science, but it's just disturbing. The unborn child has little feet, little arms, and you can clearly see the head. Then the doctor stuck some tube or sumthin up the women, and started sucking sum liquid out. And you can see the unborn child fighting for its life, trying not to get sucked up. Then it rips off the body from the head...and the doctor sticks sumthin in the woman and crushes the tiny head and sucks up the rest. Atleast, dats what I picked up, the rest I just couldn't take. Seriously, out of the 28 kids in my class, after the video...only 11 of us were left.

What do you all think of abortion?

OutWrite 01-24-04 09:51 PM

I Believe in Freedom Of Choice...

Let Her do It If She Wants

Heres a Secret To Getting ahead In Life Kilo

Only GIve a Fuck About Your Number 1 Friend, Yourself, Your Girl And Ur Mother

Fuck Everyone Else, Only Concentrate On Yourself

Because Chances Are

Other Ppl Only Think Of Themselves And Wouldent Do Anything For You If You Needed Help

Mr.Christensen 01-24-04 09:58 PM

As far as i am concerned, males opinions on abortion dont apply...women choose
we should just shut the fuck up and wear hats

OutWrite 01-24-04 09:59 PM

^^Lmao Word

Topic 01-24-04 10:06 PM

yeah i agree with outwrite, its freedom of choice, half of us havent had the viewing pleaser to view an abortion 1st hand nor on TV, but the shooting of animals is disgusting and the killing of a living thing, it hasnt stoped people from getting food, yeah and i kinda agree with realist, it should be the womans decision but what if there not married and the father feels he can take care of the child and the woman gets rid of it, it could have been his only chance of keeping his family going or having a son/daugter

LuMiNĂ¥Ry Te-X-t 01-24-04 10:10 PM

The End check ya pms

an u still take health class..Lmao u must be in like 6th grade..

abortion happens dawg live wit it

The End 01-24-04 10:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Realist
As far as i am concerned, males opinions on abortion dont apply...women choose
we should just shut the fuck up and wear hats



Seeing how abortion affects males as much as females, I think you are wrong. If I were to get someone pregnant, and then she decided without my consent to have an abortion, I'd be pretty upset. Men have every right to be in the "abortion debate" as women do. As for my feelings on abortion, they are scattered and on a case by case basis and I'd rather not go that indepth into them, especially on a board flooded with adolescents.

inspire 01-24-04 10:12 PM

Say if you were 17 and you got a girl pregnant in her final year of schooling and the due date was around final exam time.. Something that could decide the rest of her life. Would you agree to get an abortion if she wanted one?

Topic 01-24-04 10:13 PM

For reasonable excuses or docters excuse in whitch this wouled follow in they wouled get a suspension on due date most likey. Im in 9th grade and i still take healt class, its called a requirement at some schools, well atleast the schools that have smart and healthy kids attending. Im an adolescent but i didnt flood this place i made reasonable responses.

Cuthroat 01-24-04 10:15 PM

i don't like abortion i mean i understand some people have they reasons like rape or whatever but that's jus like killing someone. If my woman had got pregnant and had an abortion i guess i couldn't stop it cuz it's her "DECISION" but i would be pissed off and upset that my baby was killed.

Mr.Christensen 01-24-04 10:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The End
Seeing how abortion affects males as much as females, I think you are wrong. If I were to get someone pregnant, and then she decided without my consent to have an abortion, I'd be pretty upset. Men have every right to be in the "abortion debate" as women do. As for my feelings on abortion, they are scattered and on a case by case basis and I'd rather not go that indepth into them, especially on a board flooded with adolescents.



valid point...my argument is taking into consideration that if an abortion is needed the parents for what ever reason will probably not be able to support the baby...if that happend, more than not, the mother gets custody

Aisle Phive 01-24-04 10:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The End
Seeing how abortion affects males as much as females, I think you are wrong. If I were to get someone pregnant, and then she decided without my consent to have an abortion, I'd be pretty upset. Men have every right to be in the "abortion debate" as women do. As for my feelings on abortion, they are scattered and on a case by case basis and I'd rather not go that indepth into them, especially on a board flooded with adolescents.


However, most woman get abortions because the man has fled and doesn't want anything to do with the baby. If the man had stuck with the woman then 90 % of the abortions most likely would be avoided.

My opinion, is that they should have the baby no matter what. Adoption is always an option, so just have the baby.

Accelerate 01-24-04 10:38 PM

Im against abortion..really. It's still a Life, I mean its like committing murder the way I see it. That baby is a consequence of irresponsibility in a young teen, maybe its time she made up for it. If she can't support it, find someone who can..
I mean..Look at yourself now, how would you like it if the parents decided your fate?
In some cases, like a disease, I find it tolerable, you don't want the baby to suffer, But I don't agree with it in most. Men should wear helmets or Stick with their Seed.

inspire 01-24-04 10:39 PM

^Helmets break.

Topic 01-24-04 10:40 PM

Yes but adoption costs money that not all people can afford. Most humans wouled rather have something they can call their own specificly, not someone hand me down not that i think of it like that not that other do either just one way to look at it.

T West 01-24-04 10:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by RiGaMorTiz
The End check ya pms

an u still take health class..Lmao u must be in like 6th grade..

abortion happens dawg live wit it


actually, I attend what is called a catholic school. And a topic that was brought up in religion class was abortion. Asshole. I wonder...wat grade are u in?

Ladies and gentlemen. The quote I just showed you was from rapbattles.com biggest idiot of January 2004!!! lets give him a round of applause, shall we.

dam idiot.

Aisle Phive 01-24-04 10:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilo
actually, I attend what is called a catholic school. And a topic that was brought up in religion class was abortion. Asshole. I wonder...wat grade are u in?

Ladies and gentlemen. The quote I just showed you was from rapbattles.com biggest idiot of January 2004!!! lets give him a round of applause, shall we.

dam idiot.


I know you're not calling one a "dam idiot" though are you? :rolleyes:

And Health class is in high school as well dumbasses. :shoot:

Accelerate 01-24-04 10:45 PM

^No foolio, hes calling the dude he's quoting a damn idiot.:rolleyes:

The End 01-24-04 11:02 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iyuhl Phive
However, most woman get abortions because the man has fled and doesn't want anything to do with the baby. If the man had stuck with the woman then 90 % of the abortions most likely would be avoided.



Kids making up statistics is funny. This is why I don't engage in real discussions on this site anymore. Iyuhl, can you give a link to where it says that 90% of abortions are caused by men leaving their girlfriends? No? Didn't think so. The majority of abortions ( I wont get into percents as I'm not going to do research for a post on a website) are a result of the woman (or the couple) not being mature enough to have the child. Meaning, the baby is simply not convenient for her and perhaps her boyfriend/male she had sex with. But I bet Iyuhl meant to say that, right?

Mr.Christensen 01-24-04 11:06 PM

End...I said that damnit!

*edit*
i said that about abortions are done because the parents know that they can not afford a child for what ever reason

so dont blame A5! Hes a comedian

The End 01-24-04 11:09 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Realist
so dont blame A5! Hes a comedian


He's not a comedian, he's just a joke.

Also, EI is in sad shape. I am even going to cut down on my freeposts, even though I've earned them. So, please keep side conversation to AIM. (Yes, I'm not on that right now, but that is because I am on the phone and can't keep up with 9 IM windows.)

Derive 01-24-04 11:14 PM

End, you might wanna make a new thread enforcing the freepost rule...ermm if people continously freepost they will lose access to EI, or some shit like that, you can delete this after reading if you want.

inspire 01-24-04 11:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The End
Also, EI is in sad shape. I am even going to cut down on my freeposts, even though I've earned them. So, please keep side conversation to AIM. (Yes, I'm not on that right now, but that is because I am on the phone and can't keep up with 9 IM windows.)


Pop-u-u-lar!!! You're an RB Admin.. Pop-u-u-lar!! lol

Maybe you need more help in E.I.? :evilgrin:

The End 01-24-04 11:20 PM

^ There is no doubt we need more help in EI. I want C-section back, as he had great judgement of what is allowed in here, and what isn't. However, Cprogress is still holding a grudge with him. (Which is understandable.)


Quote:
Originally Posted by Derive
End, you might wanna make a new thread enforcing the freepost rule...ermm if people continously freepost they will lose access to EI, or some shit like that, you can delete this after reading if you want.


Once we get more mods for this forum to enforce those rules, I will.

inspire 01-24-04 11:25 PM



Hint hint.

Aisle Phive 01-24-04 11:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The End
Kids making up statistics is funny. This is why I don't engage in real discussions on this site anymore. Iyuhl, can you give a link to where it says that 90% of abortions are caused by men leaving their girlfriends? No? Didn't think so. The majority of abortions ( I wont get into percents as I'm not going to do research for a post on a website) are a result of the woman (or the couple) not being mature enough to have the child. Meaning, the baby is simply not convenient for her and perhaps her boyfriend/male she had sex with. But I bet Iyuhl meant to say that, right?


Wow, got a fuckin bug up your ass?

I didn't actually research the shit, I was makin a fucking estimate, my mistake. I didn't know I was making a report for the mother fucking pope, jesus.

-Zone Out- 01-24-04 11:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilo
Thsi is probably a worthless thread but it's really something that needs to be dicussed. Anyways, Friday in class, we saw a video of an abortion taking place. After watching that video...I am 100% against abortion. I used 2 think it was ok and watever, but that was one of the most disturbing things I ever saw. Im not very good with science, but it's just disturbing. The unborn child has little feet, little arms, and you can clearly see the head. Then the doctor stuck some tube or sumthin up the women, and started sucking sum liquid out. And you can see the unborn child fighting for its life, trying not to get sucked up. Then it rips off the body from the head...and the doctor sticks sumthin in the woman and crushes the tiny head and sucks up the rest. Atleast, dats what I picked up, the rest I just couldn't take. Seriously, out of the 28 kids in my class, after the video...only 11 of us were left.

What do you all think of abortion?


and after that all that you still managed to survive?..damn..you're tough lil guy.. :thumbup:

Quote:
Originally Posted by The End
He's not a comedian, he's just a joke.

Also, EI is in sad shape. I am even going to cut down on my freeposts, even though I've earned them. So, please keep side conversation to AIM. (Yes, I'm not on that right now, but that is because I am on the phone and can't keep up with 9 IM windows.)


sorry..didnt see this post on freeposting..I will also stop freeposting as much..

Kosta 01-24-04 11:40 PM

i disagree with murder, which is what abortion is ..
ending a life, plain and simple ..

-Zone Out- 01-24-04 11:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sand
i disagree with murder, which is what abortion is ..
ending a life, plain and simple ..

yeah..but what of the mother cant take care of the baby..yes there's always adoption..but once a child is born..most mothers get attached to them immediately and dont want to give up their baby..put it like this..

a baby that could have been aborted..while he's growing up...he experinces some of the worst possible pain ever..his family could be poor..also can be on drugs and the parents may not be able to provide for them..they parents will go hungry because they have to buy clothes/pampers/food for their child..and most of the time(for african americans)..the father isnt there..so thats making 2 lifes hard..

but if the baby is aborted it's totally different..if you have problems with it think of it like this..you are sending that baby directly to heaven..because once it's killed it's gonna go straight there..so you are kind of doing a good thing..

well..thats my views and opinions..

Thrust 01-24-04 11:51 PM

it's considered murder........................

inspire 01-24-04 11:52 PM

This also goes with capital punishment..

Derive 01-24-04 11:54 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The End
^ There is no doubt we need more help in EI. I want C-section back, as he had great judgement of what is allowed in here, and what isn't. However, Cprogress is still holding a grudge with him. (Which is understandable.)




Once we get more mods for this forum to enforce those rules, I will.



I can help clean it out if you want, ill clean it out like i did frontlines, then you can demod me, i dont mind, besides i am fucking bored.

The End 01-24-04 11:57 PM

^ I have no problems with you being a mod, and you know this.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Iyuhl Phive
Wow, got a fuckin bug up your ass?

I didn't actually research the shit, I was makin a fucking estimate, my mistake. I didn't know I was making a report for the mother fucking pope, jesus.



A bug up my ass? Um, not that I know of. However, it does bother me to see children post up false information to make themselves appear smarter to their online peers.


:rolleyes:


As for Sand's claim of abortion being murder, I'm not so sure I agree. Alex, if your mother was raped, and impregnated.. do you still think it would be wrong for her to have an abortion?

-Zone Out- 01-25-04 12:03 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The End
^ I have no problems with you being a mod, and you know this.





A bug up my ass? Um, not that I know of. However, it does bother me to see children post up false information to make themselves appear smarter to their online peers.


:rolleyes:


As for Sand's claim of abortion being murder, I'm not so sure I agree. Alex, if your mother was raped, and impregnated.. do you still think it would be wrong for her to have an abortion?


another good point End..if a gang of men sexually assaulted a female..and got her pregnant..it would be wrong for her to have an abortion..like I said earlier..it's not murder because the unborn child doesnt have a conscience yet..and really..it's just developed sperm..thats starting to grow..

sorry if anyway finds this ignorant..but if you're having sex..and pull out..and the sperm doesnt make it to the egg..is that considered murder?..no..it's not..so whats the difference between sperm..and sperm with legs and a head..usually a baby doesnt gets a brain until about 6,7,8 months inside the womb..and after a certain amount of months you cant get abortaion anyway..

Kosta 01-25-04 12:05 AM

in response to whoever tried to disagree with me ..
would you rather have never had a chance at life?
tupac's mom was a crack addict, and look at him
some folk consider him one of the most legendary
gangster rap artists of all time. he inspired plenty
of other thugs, i say .. everyone deserves a chance
at life .. it's God's choice, not ours .

Kosta 01-25-04 12:08 AM

oh, sorry for double posting .. brandon, i agree
in some cases yeah, rape, the girls doesn't want
it, but i don't feel that she is any way justified
in taking a life. it's just against my ethics. i mean
i'm not leading any movements to stop abortions
i do believe in the right to choose what you want
but as for me, i will never consent to the murder
of my unborn child. .

The End 01-25-04 12:09 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sand
in response to whoever tried to disagree with me ..
would you rather have never had a chance at life?
tupac's mom was a crack addict, and look at him
some folk consider him one of the most legendary
gangster rap artists of all time. he inspired plenty
of other thugs, i say .. everyone deserves a chance
at life .. it's God's choice, not ours .



I am not a 'whoever', damn you. And you failed to answer my question. If your mom was assualted and raped by a group of men and impregnated, do you feel that it would be wrong of her to have an abortion?

-Zone Out- 01-25-04 12:10 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sand
oh, sorry for double posting .. brandon, i agree
in some cases yeah, rape, the girls doesn't want
it, but i don't feel that she is any way justified
in taking a life. it's just against my ethics. i mean
i'm not leading any movements to stop abortions
i do believe in the right to choose what you want
but as for me, i will never consent to the murder
of my unborn child. .

you see..you cant muder what hasnt been born yet..and that Tupac part in your previous post..think about what you said..he inspired other thugs..and what do thugs do?..they kill..so he inspired more killing? :huh:

Derive 01-25-04 12:12 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The End
^ I have no problems with you being a mod, and you know this.



Well, im always open to help, its your call. Unlike others who do it for power, i dont really care, so i can fix it and you demod me and i wont care, or you can permanent mod me, either way i dont mind, as long as EI gets cleaned out.

Kosta 01-25-04 12:12 AM

i didn't see yours, i was responding to dixie
and i do think it would be wrong, because
i wouldn't have ever gotten the chance to
become who i am, and that isn't fair. according
to family, it was a tough decision of whether
or not to abort me. my mom was only 17, my
father only saw me like twice anyway until
last month which was the third time, so he was
gone, and my mother raised me alone .. i feel
that if i wasn't born .. i wouldn't be able to do the
great things i'm going to do in life. .


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