My opinion on abortion.
 

Here's my holy opinion on abortion.

It shouldn't happen. Seriously, there's better options than abortion. Some family can adopt the child and there's even a chance at getting your child back when you're fit to raise the child.

And yall have taken everything I've said and just killed it. All I said was that most abortions happen because of families that either couldn't afford the child, the mother was still finishing school, or the father wanted no part of the baby or the mother. I didn't ask to have everybody jump on my back and tell me what I think was wrong and bring real life events in. Stop taking everything I say and think that what I'm saying is pure factual. I was making an estimate. And just contributing my opinion to the thread, that's it.

And that's real mature to make a thread about me in the mod lounge to not mod me End, real class act you are.

all I gotta say it I survived abortion...I know I wasnt wanted..and this will lead to "kill yourself" threads...but abortion kicks fucking ass...theres soo many unwanted fuckers..and why we gotta save babies?...I mean...they gonna grow up and maybe become the fucker who's the asshole at your job...

^^^@ Aisle
FYI... he made a thread saying for cprogress to mod you if he saw fit.
Get your facts straight kiddo.

Secondly... I partially agree with you on the issue. However you showed some real ignorance in posts in the old thread. And so you know, I now have no respect for you as a human being for you last post.

Abortions should only be allowed in cases of cut-and-dry rape or due to inevitable defects in the unborn child that would pose serious health risks to both mother and child.

wait who u talking to? lol

Blah, sorry for flippin out, just kinda got pissed off.

I still stand on my point, the father is the ONLY man who should ever have any decison about abortions..

So while i respect everyones opinions, if its not your potential baby getting aborted, you should have no say

My opinion is mostly aimed at politicians... male politicians

What if your body isn't capable of going through childbirth? I know a woman who if she were to have a child, she'd die due to a hole in her heart.

If she were raped... hm?

Or what if the children are born into an unfit family? I was born into an unfit family and it was horrible. By a small chance I got out of it, but if I didn't I'd probably be end up dead.

Abortion is legal. Abortion happens. A life isn't all that valuable. And abortion is required.

'Nuff said.

..you escaped death once..but thank god..all things happen for a reason.

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if u a young girl and u get pregnant by accident then abortion is gd but ya gotta look at it like the kid u killin' cud b da nxt 2pac...

How the hell did you manage to make this thread Tupac orientated? ^

I think they should make abortion like adoption. Make people pay to do it...but then that would make no sense, since a main reason why a lot of people have abortions is because they can't afford the child in the first place...Now i've just confused myself...

Anyways, All of you saying abortion is ok. I advise you to watch a video of an abortion taking place. That's what changed my opinion on the issue.

People shouldn't have to pay for abortion. . What if a 15 year old homeless girl was raped and got pregnant?

Exactly...You can sit here and preach that you're anti-abortion until you're blue in the face, but when it's you or your girlfriend, still only teenagers finding out you're pregnant..Everything changes.

I'm pro-choice but I think it should be a last result..Kids still need to be more careful...

Some clinics have scaled prices...Like you pay only what you can afford..So if you're middle class or something you'd pay a little whereas if you were homeless you would probably be able to be treated for nothing..

i didn't wanna talk about this since it was a pretty scary moment in my life...but bein a teenager and gettin a gurl pregnant is the worst thing. That happened to me....around summertime. This was before, when I just thought abortion was just another thing. And even while pleading to the girl, she wouldn't get an abortion no matter what. Now I see why she didn't...

Anyways, Abortion is like suicide...why do people always look at death as the solution to a problem. "oh, my life sux" *takes knife and slices throat* Like what the hell...im sorry, I could just never realize understand why death is always the way seen to resolve problems
"Oh, dis faggot stepped on my new tims" *pulls out .44 and shoots guy in the neck* ...it just shows how barbaric humans are and how we are not heading towards prosperity...but towards depression.

^Thats what I belive...
As far as "only the mother or father should have that choice": They made thier choice when they had sex...

Just my oppinion...

-W1

..Very good arguementive subject..I change with the situation..

if someone was raped, or for health reasons, yes the should be able to.

but if she fucked someone and got pregnat then descides she doesnt want to have a kids with him, then no. she shouldnt be a hoe fucking people she doesnt want to have kids with

You know, I'm quite liberal on this issue for many reasons. I think too many kids are having kids, it is really have huge impacts on our society. I myself complelty understand why some do decide to get abortions. I can't say I agree, but nonetheless I do understand. I think the new sweeping legislation in the last two years has done this society good (USA). We now have safe drop area's for weman not wanting thier newborns. No questions asked, you just bring the baby in, and the authorities will take care of it. We just need to increase the education of children on this tremedous irresponsible drain on today's society. I think it should be the very last choice in a slew of alternatives...

There are many good reasons people may consider abortion.
A girl is raped.
Young teenagers. 13 year olds can not raise a child.
Health reasons, - and again, the thirteen year old thing, there will be complications at birth.
And also, if the baby won't come out "right". It may be somewhat shallow, but if anyone here knows a family who has a mentally challenged child? Well, you have a mentally challenged child for the rest of your life unless they die most likely. It can really kill a family, it's hard on them, their life, the rest of their life becomes based around this kid.

Abortion can help many people. For a lot of people a baby isn't the right thing at a certain time. It's not fair for a child to have to go through that either.

abortion should be outlawed....PERIOD...

No, idiots like you who don't have the mind to even explain themselves should have been aborted.

Long live free will

ok..i will probably catch shit for this...im Christan...and Anti-Abortion...anti choice..if i weren't christian id be pro..the onyl reason is because i have to believe that there is a reason for every birth...but then again..my religion tells me that if a baby dies it goes straight to heaven...so...im very conflicted on this...i can't say pro becasue it's murder, but i can't be angry or sad when it does happen because the baby doesn't suffer....besides most men have an abortion every day...it's called cockin the shotgun...so...ima have to think some more...

It should be a decision for the mother and father to make. Although lots of teenagers get pregnant, and the many of the boys run away from the problem, abortion should still be the absolute last resort. Everyone deserves to have a chance at life. Think of all the happy things you've experienced during your life, and then imagine if those chances to have those moments were taken away from you before you were even born. If they child is mentally deranged, or has serious complications that could damage the mother, then abortion might be an option. But if there is even a glimmer of hope that a child might have a meaningful life, then they should at least be given the chance to live, whether or not they are given away to another family or not.

In the end though, it should be the parents who decide.

you, should be shot. never speak on this board again, since a life isn't valuable.. you are now shit. Every life is valuable in its own way.

oh, relating to abortion: i think the bigger question is, do you believe in God. If you do then the next question is: do you know the facts about abortion. suck as; is the to-be-aborted child human? what makes someone human? Is abortion in this case murder? I think questions like those, are ones that the people replying to this cannot answer. I took a seminar on this once, if my memory serves me correctly the baby's brain IS developing. The arms and legs and everything is developing. The life form is a human one, just extremely small. . blah im not giving my full opinion.

My Opinion..

Kid Who Started Thread's Mom Shoulda Had One.

My Opinion On Abortion...

If Two People Are Going To Have Unsafe Sex...Then They Obviously Think That They Are Responsible For The Risks Of Having A Baby, And Taking Care Of It...

Only Reason For An Abortion, Is If The Baby Was Born From Rape...

erm.....There are Ethical issues arisen by abortion...N I tink its wrong

I will reply to this later, I must leave for now.

Trust..I have things to be said.

Then you wouldn't have a father, now would you? :nono:

Guess Who Did A Research Paper on Abortion? Yep, me.

For all the bullshit excuses I've seen in this thread...this is for you.

Should abortion be allowed? That would be a no...or more of a Hell mother fuckin naw.

"Oh but little suzy was raped and gored and now her pussy's really wide and she got pregnant and it's all so disturbing! *teardrop*"

Only 3% of all rape victims become pregnant. Of that 3%, over 72% have miscarriages within the first month. Now I know all of you are gonna come in with stories of your grandmother, cousin's friend, and best friend's mother's PTA buddy and how they got raped and became pregnant and didn't have a miscarriage. HOwever, 99% of you bitches are pathological liars anyway, so who gives a fuck what examples you give. To me...the statistics shown are not enough reason to have an abortion clinic...because these people won't be the ones using it. Oh, that's right, I did forget to mention that of the 28% who actually do serve a full term pregnancy, or could serve one if they choose to, 97% decide to go through with the birthing process, and 64% don't put them up for adoption, they keep the baby.

Now....For the next point.

"The girl's only 13-18 her life's just starting! It's just not right, why should she throw her life away simply because she's some skank ho who decided to fall on top of every cock she sees."

^I can make that quote...because this statement doesn't apply to rape...I've already attended to the rape issue. Why no abortion for these? They made their bed, let em fuckin lie in it. Why should a little baby be murdered because they were stupid. That's the most ignorant assanine bullshit I've ever heard. Oh, but their life's just starting....yeah, well so's the fuckin baby's. They had their shot, they blew it...it's the baby's turn. I don't give a shit if she is 13...if she willingly sucked and fucked then it's the consequences of her actions and now the little bitch has got to deal with it. Oh, but she can't take care of it.....put it up for adoption...dumb hussy.

"Well, you have to choose between the mother and the baby."

This is the only valid argument for any pro-choicers. A very tough call indeed. This is really a judgement issue, and I don't consider this abortion in the terms as it is normally referred to. Personally, I don't know what I would do if my wife had to make that choice...and I don't know what I would tell her. All I know is that this is the only reason I could EVER see the baby being killed as a valid option.

abortion is down to personal choice, in my opinion, i would have an abortion if i felt that i truly could'nt cope. At 15, i don't think that i would have the strength physically or emotionally to deal with looking after a small child, i would be responsible for forming a future..and at this point in time, i feel i am not ready for a child. The thing is, there are so many unwanted children on the streets or in childrens homes, and its not fair, they didn't ask to be born into a strangers arms, they did not deserve the hand they were dealt..but this tradgedy could be helped if people used contraception, at least, there would be less chance of us having to make that vital decision.

^Bullshit, that's an excuse. If you don't want the kid...then stay abstinent or fuckin deal with your consequences. If you can't handle it...fine, put the kid up for adoption after it's born. You always hear this shit about "These kids are in childrens homes leading sad lives." What a crock...there are waiting lists miles long for people waiting to adopt kids. ESPECIALLY infants.

If You Don't want a Kid, Wear a Helmet.
Im anti abortion as I mentioned in the other thread.

I Don't Worry About Abortion Cause All My Kids...Been Swallowed Or Spitted..Or Flushed Down The Toilet ....

But If It's A Rape Case I Think Abortion Should Be Done But Not For Unprotected Sex It's Your Choice 2 Not Put a Condom On

And that... is word. Nice point lethargic.. exactly what i think & didn't want to take the time to say because these petty hoes would just argue with sense anyway .

Concerning the argument that there are plenty of parents waiting to adopt these children, this unfortunately isn't true. 130,000 kids are adopted every year (40-50,000 of these by family members), while aprox. 1,300,000 are aborted. Since 1973 approx. 40 million abortions have taken place yet of the approx. 10 million women (ages 14 - 44) who have even considered adopting children only 2 million have actually sought adoption. Currently their are about 500,000 women seeking adoption.

I agree that far less people should seek abortion and that much more should be done to educate youth on protective sex. However, it's not as simple as making it illegal and letting people just give the child up for adoption. Even if you doubled the adoption rate your looking at 10 million orphans in the first 10 years. If you allow say $2000 per child for food and shelter each year then that equates to 20 billion dollars/year out of the budget.

Regardless, the fact is that some people are selfish irresponcible bastards who would rather spend their time and money voting on americal idol contestants than raising kids. Either a)you force these selfish irresponcible poeple to keep their kids (not a great solution in my opinion considering who we're talkin about), b) or you spend billions on orphanages, or c) you figure out how to make people more responcible and less selfish to begin with before making it illegal.

Making abortion illegal and spending money on orphanages is only a short-term quick fix in my opinion. It does not address the larger issue. Abortions have actually started to decline in recent years because of people who are working towards solution C. Which is what I agree with. Spend money now educating people in advance rather than on orphanages after the fact and we will be better off in the long-term.

Yeah, but still. Being an orphan beats being aborted w/ no shot at all.