I'm Confused...DJ/Producer
 

Up until recently I always assumed a DJ was the producer of an album. Eric B. and Rakim, Fresh Prince, GanggStar etc.

But I was told that they are not one in the same.

Can someone explain what exactly the difference is...

Dj just makes the beats..and promotes..

^ not really.... a producer is like Dr. Dre, Eminem, Kayne West, Just Blaze, Necro etc.... they just use a Drum Machine and those other electrical gadgets to make beats.... DJ's are the people on the turntables who spin disc's and scratch etc...

The difference is, since DJing is far harder than simply being a producer, most DJ's can produce and work the turntables... so that explains why you see something like "produced by DJ Premier".. he's a DJ that also produces... but you'll never see "produced by DJ Dr. Dre" cos dre just produces, no DJing...

also notice that 95% when a DJ is producing, scratches are worked into the beat... especially true with DJ Quik and Premier...

hope that helped

dr. dre make beats..

^ i know... but he doesnt DJ.....

am i correct in thinking that if DJ TR didnt scratch on any song, then while the album is being recorded he is on his just sitting back and scratching his ass??

^ no, but DJ's usually scratch whilst producing... if you've got the skills, why not implement it... im not saying ALL of them do, but alot do... i know if i was able to scratch, i'd use it in my songs

and for the record Dre used to DJ...before NWA days..

WORD....Your Exactly On The Money.... :thumbup:

A Producer Only Makes Beats...

But A DJ Produces And Scratches Also...And Sometimes, He Puts Scratches On His Beats...A La Primo...!

and for the record Dre used to DJ...before NWA days..

^ i was refering to present day, G-Funk dre

You can also scratch a beat.. Juggle it.. Whatever..

D-styles - Phantazmagore is an example of an album completely made on the wheels o' steel.

You don't have to produce if you're a Dj.. How many tracks do you see Q-bert producing?

Watch the scratch documentary before you speak on Dj'ing.. Not one person on this site (except maybe Nec because he's just knowledgeable in everything) would know the slightest thing about the culture.. We don't just spin discs and scratch.. There's far more to it..

More n more commercial rap beats r produced entirely using computers. There are still sum beat makers out there (xcutioners) who r making beats purely using turntables but they r becoming fewer and fewer. Nowadays Scratches r added in a seperate track the same as other instruments but just make up a small part of the entire beat. Name any major producer, they all work mostly on computers. That's just where the industry is going because of record companies demanding a higher level of sound quality from rap producers.

Let me help you down off of that soap box!

DJ's more of a hype man than a producer...DJ can hype the crowd up ina instant..

LMAO @ inspire getting a turntable, and sudenly becomeing a expert. LOL and he is the only one that knows the culture

^word, since I don't know shit about it or the culture I'll keep my thoughts to myself...
Can't wait to tell after shock and orlando about this.... LMAO

Ya Djs Hype The Crowd And Be More Active...
Producer Just Sit Back and See The Work They Done

^I didn't include myself.. Dick. I only included Necromancer.. because he happens to know many things about history and such... Now go sit in the corner!

My dick produced a child called DJ if that helps wit the producers and DJ quistion

I wanna be a producer..my name is Kanye East

^Wow. Nice originality.

I use to Dj at partys, but with hardcore music o.O..

not to start any gay shit, but how could you not know the difference and call yourself a hip hop head

people people, your missing some important part about Djing. He doesnt use F*cking turntables just for scratchin. If he's got cash, He puts Music on to Vinyl, plays it on a F*ckin turntable and gets another turntable with a LP drops it off and mix's with the current playing song.... Thats the truth about DJ's... But today alls they got to do is get a Dual Cd Player that what? plays 2 cds at the same time. also come with built in Tempo control... and a Synthetic Scratch effect with spins the disc to make the simulation. Now I dont kno what all this BS is on TV that you see, but a dj does more work than you see.... Dre and everyone else really Hazed things up. The scratchin is really just another funky way to mix a song in. I really hope this clarifies things for you on the DJ part

^Synthetic scratch effect sounds wack anyways..

actually the ones created of PC are the ones that are wak. Lemme refrase what i wanted to say about scratches, With a dual cd player, the control to scratch really does the samething like you would for a turntable, but you arnt toutching the CD yourself, equipment is spinnin the disc electronically to make the same sound.

Its possible to not know everything about something, but thank you for caring

A produser over sees all the work in a track vocals to beats and a dj just works with the scratch table.

i'm a producer and da shit is actually fun but i agree being a DJ is harder work.

I think y'all got it wrong, back in the day, the DJ made the beats, and scratched it up. I mean they would take the break part of a beat and loop it with the tables while the mc emceed. Then time went on where they would sample, and make their own beats, but they would throw scratches in cause that was like their solo part [see terminator X it!]. So the deejay was mainly the producer, but now, the dj is mainly a record spinner hype man type. Cause now the producer/dj, can walk on stage and rap too![see the intro for every new song]. Cause if dre does a track for you, he's not gonna go on tour and stand in the back spinnin records for you, your DJ's gonna do that. All the old school cats still get out there, and rep [premier, Jam master Jay (rip), mister Cee], cause thats how it was, and always be. But new cats don't have dj's, or rather "dj nobodies" spinnin and keepin the show goin cause they got multi producers on the album.

^ same thing i said... except you had way more examples...

i guess this clears it up

like im new to this nn all, so how can i actually battle then

^by sucking my dick WRONG FORUM!

im sure there are plenty of people on the site who can spin, scratch, juggle, mix and everything else that goes along with dj'ing, its not the hardest thing to learn, lol. Took me about 3 months to be able to mix my beats into eachother, was scratching within the month, still working on smoothing out my juggling.. but ive only had my tables for about 4 months, it ain't that hard...

^RAPbattles.com

Yeah that would attract a hoarde of DJ's.. :rolleyes:

Obviously you do not do anything remotely hard when juggling. . If you think it takes 4 months to become a good DJ.. You're kidding..

Post pics of your equipment.. Then I shall believe you.

DJs arent always producers just as producers arent always DJs...

and I think making a beat is alot harder than scratching a record on a turntable.

a producer.. basically produces a track.

DJs are disc jockeys.

alot of DJs produce..seeing their always spinning wax.

man you guys dont understand what a DJ really does. Check my previous post in here. You'll understand what a DJ is. A producer is everything else not mentioned in my explanations

^Shut up. lol It's like you only joined to post in this one thread.