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A Project.
(att'n: Bouncedoggydog, Maven, The End, Lokinator, N-Demik, Termz, Phrantik, Cam, all of WP, all of Pure, Chrit, Mad Man, MuhThugga, all other intelligent members of Rapbattles)
Please, read these conversations with diligence. The main conversation is between myself & MuhThugga, with the JSelfB - RsBagels exchange pacing our thoughts. _____________________________________________ RalphsBagels: Boy'oh BinBizzyWitShyt: ? RalphsBagels: I have a request RalphsBagels wants to directly connect. BinBizzyWitShyt is now directly connected. BinBizzyWitShyt: ok RalphsBagels: That you read this conversation - when you have the time, of course - & tell me if you would view / contribute to a foreseeable future . . BinBizzyWitShyt: okay RalphsBagels: Baron Mynd, it's lengthy = / Another conversation - - - RalphsBagels: J self B (8:40:45 PM): I had an idea...a while ago. Remember Fight Club? The movie RalphsBagels (8:42:06 PM): Yess J self B (8:42:38 PM): An underground ring, - incredibly underground - world wide. Doing ' things '. RalphsBagels (8:43:16 PM): yeshhhh J self B (8:44:18 PM): No hurting people, no violence, no death, no explosions. But, politically motivated, world issue's at hand. RalphsBagels (8:44:38 PM): Oh? J self B (8:45:38 PM): Get the facts out there, on T.V., the internet. Wide-spread for everyone to notice. Things that just aren't right. RalphsBagels (8:46:12 PM): Hm. J self B (8:47:38 PM): I think it could be done, with the right people, the organization would grow of course. More activities, more people. More impact. J self B (8:48:11 PM): I haven't given it much thought, but I think that if the right people did (give it much thought) then it could make an impact. RalphsBagels (8:48:49 PM): & you would aim at keeping it fairly one-sided, somehow side-stepping any dangerous wings J self B (8:49:59 PM): Violence takes things to far for this type of circumstance. It would tarnish the image and make our efforts pointless. RalphsBagels (8:51:14 PM): & its 'views' would best permeate the audience through mass media ? J self B (8:51:37 PM): Hopefully. RalphsBagels (8:51:45 PM): As for funding? J self B (8:52:05 PM): Personal pockets will be thus. RalphsBagels (8:52:18 PM): WOOooowww RalphsBagels (8:52:26 PM): Somebody must have some deep pockets RalphsBagels (8:52:36 PM): & / or cargo pants J self B (8:52:39 PM): haha. J self B (8:53:09 PM): Not necessairly. If you have enough people, then those people can aquire objects for $0. RalphsBagels (8:53:34 PM): Example? J self B (8:54:35 PM): Hackers would be perfect. It is free, and if they're in support of our - cause - ...then wonderful RalphsBagels (8:54:44 PM): Owwwww J self B (8:55:06 PM): www.yahoo.com splattered with links to things that are wrong. How many would see that? RalphsBagels (8:55:26 PM): Then, how would this resemble a non - violent organization when, from the get - go, it possessed a negative connotation via its intimidation RalphsBagels (8:55:59 PM): & would the Yahoo attack act as a spring - board for phuture operations, or. . .? J self B (8:57:02 PM): Intimidation is the key, but without actual brute force. We will brance out. Actual things to be done, like outside of the web of the world. RalphsBagels (8:57:37 PM): Aren't there existant operations? J self B (8:57:50 PM): Futile. J self B (8:58:21 PM): They follow the law. The ' law ' needs to be broken to make an impact. RalphsBagels (8:58:34 PM): A solitary law, or. . J self B (8:58:56 PM): explain? RalphsBagels (8:59:08 PM): Why would the law need to be broken RalphsBagels (8:59:38 PM): Might I suggest an undergound noo'spaper as a slightly more realistic effort J self B (8:59:59 PM): When else does the oh so depressing media pay attention J self B (9:00:03 PM): that would be good. RalphsBagels (9:00:05 PM): With the time that we use on these Internet boards utilized for that ^, I think you could be successful RalphsBagels (9:00:36 PM): Ohhh nooo, A MEDIA - Hater !? J self B (9:01:02 PM): No No No. J self B (9:01:10 PM): I want to use the media. Remember? RalphsBagels (9:01:23 PM): Yesss, then : newspaper, underground, the RalphsBagels (9:01:45 PM): You could even put one together now - & spam the sites that we visit now J self B (9:01:50 PM): haha RalphsBagels (9:01:53 PM): starting with the INTErnet routee RalphsBagels (9:01:57 PM): Seeriously J self B (9:02:09 PM): I was laughing at, hey, good idea. RalphsBagels (9:02:15 PM): But , Iam not sold on your intentiiooonnsss RalphsBagels (9:02:18 PM): maha J self B (9:02:20 PM): haha J self B (9:02:22 PM): ok. J self B (9:02:27 PM): What would you like to talk about? RalphsBagels (9:02:37 PM): ?! Egg zact lee RalphsBagels (9:02:44 PM): What the hell do I have to expowes ? J self B (9:03:02 PM): I have no intentions. I have nothing. I am in love, so I have no care on what's bad in the world J self B (9:03:07 PM): John Malvo? RalphsBagels (9:03:21 PM): MAHA ! RalphsBagels (9:03:28 PM): WISEN HEIMER RalphsBagels (9:03:49 PM): Develop a web - site, and I'd write anything RalphsBagels (9:04:05 PM): & get a core of supporters J self B (9:04:58 PM): you have a lot to say? RalphsBagels (9:05:37 PM): Gosh, I hate the idea of being one of these ' youth movements ' RalphsBagels (9:05:43 PM): , though. . J self B (9:06:00 PM): would you like to stay still? RalphsBagels (9:06:06 PM): yes J self B (9:06:12 PM): as would I. RalphsBagels (9:06:16 PM): Everyone turns out so damned fundamental - no cynics involved :-( J self B (9:06:31 PM): so I really don't know why I bring up things like this. RalphsBagels (9:06:34 PM): & either too depressing or too optimistic J self B (9:06:52 PM): I have nothing say. The world is the world. I won't ever rebel. RalphsBagels (9:06:59 PM): ? RalphsBagels (9:07:07 PM): So , your idea will never be built J self B (9:07:18 PM): I need someone to take the reign. RalphsBagels (9:07:26 PM): Jay Self Bee J self B (9:07:47 PM): "I am not the one." - the statement I live by. RalphsBagels (9:07:59 PM): Then whoooom J self B (9:08:26 PM): Anyone else RalphsBagels (9:08:48 PM): >:oyyooooooo J self B (9:09:27 PM): I'm sorry. I am not him. My only impact to be made upon the world will be my children. J self B (9:09:38 PM): Maybe a book or two, or more. But they won't matter RalphsBagels (9:10:05 PM): & you wouldn't even contribute to the effort ? J self B (9:10:22 PM): I would start thee. - - - - - End of that conversation BinBizzyWitShyt: and what do you want me to predict? RalphsBagels: Scratch predict, RalphsBagels: That you read this conversation - when you have the time, of course - & tell me if you would contribute to a foreseeable future . . BinBizzyWitShyt: lol he talked to me about making an underground magazine.... BinBizzyWitShyt: letting people know about Underground Hip-Hop RalphsBagels: = D BinBizzyWitShyt: by underground magazine I mean a magazine about Underground Hip-Hop RalphsBagels: El ohh eLLLLLLLLLL RalphsBagels: & , does this particular project present any form of interest ? Or simply non - sense BinBizzyWitShyt: but the way he talks he sounds like he is tryign to start a revolution RalphsBagels: El oh el - I know. RalphsBagels: My sentiment exactly BinBizzyWitShyt: like knuckle up and bear arms BinBizzyWitShyt: and write an article or two RalphsBagels: Leading the charge w/ keyboard in hand, mouse in holster BinBizzyWitShyt: lol BinBizzyWitShyt: hard drive artillery RalphsBagels: With the cable modem serving as our A - Bomb . GLORIOUS BinBizzyWitShyt: lol RalphsBagels: No interest ? BinBizzyWitShyt: well....I'd be interested in informing the community about the Underground BinBizzyWitShyt: and promoting artists that deserve the attention RalphsBagels: I mean, I wonder if there is a happy median between full - on revolution & newsletter RalphsBagels: probably, closer to the latter, though BinBizzyWitShyt: lol BinBizzyWitShyt: I mean if he is serious enough we could even start an online store RalphsBagels: a la the Onion, I suppose BinBizzyWitShyt: HipHopInfinity is closing...I'm sure we could purchase it BinBizzyWitShyt: find a supplier and start taking orders RalphsBagels: Hmm BinBizzyWitShyt: and have the newsletter, provide reviews RalphsBagels: But , with music being one facet of it? RalphsBagels: Or being the main idea BinBizzyWitShyt: well...wouldn't it have to be the main idea? BinBizzyWitShyt: if the newsletter is about Underground Hip-Hop? RalphsBagels: Being ' hip hop infinity? ' BinBizzyWitShyt: true RalphsBagels: Well BinBizzyWitShyt: well....it is a store.... BinBizzyWitShyt: breakdancing videos RalphsBagels: I believe he is thinking of a news - letter that encompasses a lot of stuff BinBizzyWitShyt: Skribble Jam RalphsBagels: From poliitics to entertainment blah blahh BinBizzyWitShyt: yeah....a revolution BinBizzyWitShyt: hmmm RalphsBagels: I don't think it necessarily has to be a revolution RalphsBagels: We would just have to get a broad range of people to help us BinBizzyWitShyt: right RalphsBagels: Who are interested in lots of areas RalphsBagels: Let me talk to a few other people, & see if they'd be interested. . Because, @ this point, I'm not sure if it's worth it. _____________________________________________ Understand . . @ all?! AIM: RalphsBagels (I'm usually on after 8 PM EST.) E - Mail: Algernonswish@aol.com Or simply PM me back . . Blahh, it's kind of unorganized & in a fledgling state, but I'd be interested to know if you'd like to help. 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Any takers?
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I'm always down for expressing views that are not mainly accepted or even heard.
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Hmmmmmmmm, Like i said to Self...
Very Intreguin..!! |
..........................wow...good ideas mayne..
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Heh. Very nice...
...chanting down Babylon with ya scary dance of 1s n 0s. Nice. I've seen a fair few of these types of things. Believe it or not, a lot have come from the concept of Fight Club. Most fail. Some survive. Few left make some waves. But not what they set out to achieve. Still, they do their part. While there is the odd one which'll take a life of it's own. But usually become something more 'darker' or 'rigid' than it set out to be. It's motives corrupted or diverted into something else. Sometimes keeping in touch with it's original 'manifesto', but not quite enough to do it 'proud'. Though then again, that depends on your perception and all that. Oh, and believe it or not, the amount of ones inspired by Fight Club don't fail as dis-proportionalty as one may think. |
Damn Thats Twice in one day thats happend..!!!
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i have a very short attention span, and im lost.
bruks part sounded like some conspiracy theroy immortal technique type shit. then the other part was talking about underground hip hop then the other part was me lost again if your talking about running some type of underground hip hop magizine or web site, i'll help, but if its not someone explain to me WTF is going on. |
nice idea, i want inners. :)
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:D . . We'd love to have somebody with your clout aboard, my boy. As I said, anybody at all interested, contact myself or self. I must retire for the night, adios.
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Im talking with self about it right now..!!!
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got any hackers yet?
no? now u do. |
Lay down a rough manifesto. Not too short, not too long. Emphasis on rough. You know, to get things rolling in the 'recruitment drive'.
Trotsky had one. Hitler had one. Chairman Mao had one. The bleedin' Unabomber had one. So tis reccomended, see... |
I would be histericly losing my self if i wake up to find some MI5/C.I.A shit taking away my computer...!!
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^And Bounce works in logistics (or along those lines) for the Pentagon(?). Hmmmm...
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I couldn't read the whole thing..anyone able to sum it up in at most say a paragraph???
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Mythsofmind: lol
Mythsofmind: d something by u & hoddy Mythsofmind: i just read sumthin by you and g hod* Mythsofmind: the newspaper idea ? J self B: yeah J self B: :-) J self B: It's ...not taken off yet J self B: it will Mythsofmind: is basically what thats about, is buying or creating ur own newspaper to express your / our views J self B: I need people J self B: yes J self B: exactly Mythsofmind: k Mythsofmind: lol J self B: whats wrong in society today Mythsofmind: i just skimmed the chats, cuz i got a lotta HW to do :-( Mythsofmind: but thats a good idea Mythsofmind: and this would be done through .. underground hip hop kind of thing ? Mythsofmind: your / our readers would be what group of people ? J self B: Anyone J self B: willing to listen Mythsofmind: k Mythsofmind: im willing to help, whatever little i can. lol J self B: AWESOME Mythsofmind: i don't know much about politics but i do know that there are a hell of a lot of problems in the world. Mythsofmind: :-) J self B: Me neither Mythsofmind: K J self B: Anyone is who is wanted. Mythsofmind: :-) Read the bold. Please. |
Can a noob be down..
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Does a noob have deep interlectual issue section in his brain..!?
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Yes ma'am..Does a E Z have the abilites to acknowledge the fact that this noob has a far greater intellectual capacity in his brain than E Z could even be able to comprehend..?
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Ahhhhh, Hostility...??
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Oh I'm just messing with you friend..never take me seriously..
I have a deep place in my heart for sarcasm..and it shows frequesntly.. No net beef.. |
I'd help with this.....
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Well I'm too lazy to actually read the convo at the moment.
But I guess I'm down as I was mentioned *Has no idea what for yet* LOL :rolleyes: |
Answer me wen i AIM you and id tell you..!! =/
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^ You better ease off the freeposts.. This is your warning.
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That's because you are tsar casm, or relick, or whatever. Keep freeposting, and you will be banned, even if self seems to claim you as his lil buddy. |
So basicly... you're asking for someone... to build you the INTERNET? It's already been built.
Information? Try ANYWHERE. You can get ANY veiw of ANY sort of information at all. There are librarys of information of all sorts. Try erowid.com or totse.com or even everything2.com Eh? Are those basicly the kind of sites you're asking for? |
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AIM scares me :( |
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haha, ownage. but yeah, I am down to express views if you like. Or if you don't. whatever. |
Good 2 B Heard I guess..
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No. "Has this been done before?" - Yes "What are we doing different from before?" - Fuck knows. "What is your goal?" - Again, fuck knows. So far what I, and I hate using that word for this project because this is not a one person thing, but the goal as of now: To inform people. "What is your point?" - We'll figure that out later. =) "Are you planning on changing the world? - Hardly. If this can get one person, one single person to listen and nod, I personally will be happy. So far the support already has been great, so basically my jobs done, I got people to think. Now I want people to think and help. Make other people think. The movie Pay It Forward comes to mind. Why not jump on what everyone else has been doing? Hmm. Maybe because no one ever wants to do that? If I jump on the bandwagon, would that not be just doing what we are talking about not liking? I believe so. The website is in creation. Is it a cheap website? For now. Sorry, I don't have the money to fund myself shitting let alone anything else. If anyone is willing to put forth money, start a real website, please contact me: J Self B. |
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I believe the movie was Pay It Forward, and I still don't understand what I'd be agreeing to by saying "I'm down." |
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You don't need to be, I guess. If you need to know that much, forget it. And it was edited, thank you. |
^So because he wants to know more, he should just forget it?
Er, surely a main trait of what you're meant to be going against? I dunno, just seems reasonable for one to know more before getting into it. Unless you're looking for sheep...anyone Welsh? I know i've said it before. But i think a short, rough manifesto is in order. Just a suggestion, like... By the way, i do think it's a good idea of sorts. A bit 'pipe dream' like, but hey, as stated before, such things have come off in the past. Even if only to make a small wave or two which have displaced a few tuna fishes. |
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Well, OK then. But, I believe you are contradicting yourself a little bit then. You see, you are calling out to all the intelligent heads of RB, and are asking them to agree to something that is an unkown. Now, in my opinion, if you agree to something on such terms, you aren't very intelligent at all. If you disagree, I'd gladly like you to agree to sign a blank check and mail it to me. What am I going to use it for? If you have to know that much, forget it. |
Heres the rough idea of it all.
The Project is designed to inform people. Of what, you ask? Of what they need to know. To open their eyes to various points of view, to sift through all the bullshit that is force fed to us daily and tell the damn truth. To show opinions, to debate, to encourage people to explore different realms of thought. To experiment with what is accepted and what isn't. To help people to see things as more than just black and white. A bit better Brandon? |
i think bruk means, that we are undecided as of yet, and it is up for discussion over there. "there", being the board that was created for it. which i think would be considered spamming if it was posted.
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^word, I thought this was gonna be some type of like, fight club/hitler-nazi/internet geek takeover of the intelligible world, but then it turned our to be a hip-hop newsletter. very confusing... |
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It's not. That is something completely different. A different magazine. It got intertwined with this, sorry. But it has nothing to do with The Project. Such an amazing name. :rolleyes: |
For the most part... at least with my understanding... this isn't a bad idea and I am down with it.
However... instead of just making a boring website full of information probably no one will go out of their way to look at... ...let's make it into a rap album where we become the CNN of the Hip-Hop world. Y'know, unless someone like Public Enemy beats us to it. (What I find amazing is I say I'd be down with this, yet I have so much to say against it. I find this peculiuar to say the least.) |
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