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The End 02-14-04 09:36 PM

Canada's Dope.
 
Or not.


:rolleyes:

Quote:
OTTAWA (Feb. 14) - Canada's government on Friday condemned a show by U.S. late-night television host Conan O'Brien that insulted people in French-speaking Quebec and seemed to suggest everyone in the province was homosexual.

Ottawa and the province of Ontario paid $760,000 to help O'Brien -- who appears on the NBC television network -- bring his show to Toronto for a week to boost the city's profile after a deadly SARS outbreak last year.

But the federal government said O'Brien had gone too far with the show broadcast on Thursday in which he went to Quebec, a province which has had separatist governments for much of the last 20 years and is a delicate political topic in Canada.

"We want to disassociate ourselves from the comments which were broadcast last night because we do not support them in any way," junior government minister Mauril Belanger told Parliament.

At one point in the show, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog -- a hand puppet that is a regular on the show -- said to a Quebecer: "You're French, you're obnoxious and you no speekay English." It told another: "I can smell your crotch from here".

O'Brien's team were also shown replacing street signs in the province with those that read "Quebecqueer Street" and "Rue des Pussies".

Alexa McDonough, a legislator for the left-leaning New Democrats, described the program as "racist filth" and "utterly vile" and demanded the government seek the return of the C$1 million subsidy.

"There may be those who would say, 'Isn't this interfering with freedom of expression?' It's not interfering to say we will not publicly fund this kind of vile, vicious hatemongering," McDonough told reporters.

Belanger did not commit to asking for the money back.

Peter Soumalias, a Toronto businessman who helped bring the show to the city, said the sketch was just a joke and called the furor a "tempest in a teapot."

"Quebec is the home of some great comics and comedians," he said. "They understand comedy."

No one at NBC was available for comment.

The complaints over the puppet's comments come on the heels of a similar uproar following criticism of European French-Canadian hockey players on CBC television by the country's best-known sports commentator, Don Cherry.

The "Late Night" show, which taped in Toronto all this week and featured guests such as Jim Carrey and Mike Myers, was broadcast in Canada by CHUM television, which said it regretted any offense that may have been caused.

"We offer our apology and assurance that it is never our intention to air programming that offends any of our viewers," the station said in a statement.

Triumph the Insult Comic Dog has landed in trouble before, most famously when it had an altercation with rap singer Eminem at a music awards show in 2002.


02/14/04 09:10 ET

C-Section 02-14-04 09:39 PM

WTF! conan is dope.

but canadians dont bitch about their own tom green?

Holl-a-kiss 02-14-04 10:14 PM

Blah they ask for help then they bitch when the get it... how unexpected lmfao :D

Maven 02-14-04 10:43 PM

see, you're condemning all canadians because the politicians got mad at politically incorrectness. it happens everywhere. if you were to go around on the street and ask people who watched the show if they had been offended by the sketch, the answer would more than likely be a resounding no.
so blow me counter clockwise. and no teeth.

Rags 02-14-04 10:47 PM

fuck canada...made a diss to conspiracy for audio engagement...completely cracked on canada, i even got a conon o brien line ;)

enjoy if u want to, but basicallu, FUCK CANADA, and FUCK KOZ lol remember him?

http://www.soundclick.com/util/stre...?ID=359768&q=Hi
hifi
http://www.soundclick.com/util/stre...?ID=359768&q=Lo
lofi

it w/e really...

The End 02-14-04 11:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maven
see, you're condemning all canadians because the politicians got mad at politically incorrectness. it happens everywhere. if you were to go around on the street and ask people who watched the show if they had been offended by the sketch, the answer would more than likely be a resounding no.
so blow me counter clockwise. and no teeth.



Umm.. Ok then.

Correction:


Canadian Government Is Dope..


.. not really.


:rolleyes:

MichaelMadness 02-14-04 11:54 PM

Canada Sucks, Canadians DOnt like americans ...........But least yall got good bud

Bare Knuckles 02-15-04 03:55 AM

Conan IS the man after that.

inspire 02-15-04 05:57 AM

Lmao..

"Bootleg ass mexico"

mc aines 02-15-04 06:00 AM

i went canada on vacation it was coo......i really enjoyed it i wud definately go agen

self 02-15-04 09:24 AM

Blah!!!

I think they're getting all mad because Conan is a big name, from America. Like 3 people from Canada have made a big name for themselves, so they get all pissy when other people have fun.

But honestly, Fuck Quebec and it's patriotic inhabiters. I hate them with an utter passion.


Oh, and Conan is god.

K.Cobain 02-15-04 09:48 AM

Cana.. who?

Timeless 02-15-04 10:04 AM

canada is bum and all ways will be!! usa WANABE!!!

Mag... 02-15-04 10:31 AM

Self you idiot....

Right off the top i have to say there is a difference between honest satirical comedy and outright prejudice exploitation... but i didnt' see the show so i won't say conan did anything wrong yet...

secondly, only 3 famous persons from the Great White North!!!! are you on drugs...

...seriously....

1. Actors:
Joshua Jackson, Donald Sutherland, Kiefer Sutherland, Keanu Reeves, Brendan Fraser, Norm MacDonald, William Shatner, Hayden Christenson, Tom Green, Matthew Perry, Martin Short, Dan Akroyd, Mike Myers, Howie Mandel, Jim Carrey, Alan Thicke, Phil Hartman, Michael J. Fox, Leslie Nielson, Lorne Greene

2. Actresses:
Natasha Henstridge, Neve Campbell, Pamela Anderson Lee, Jennifer Tilly, Carrie-Anne Moss, Elisha Cuthbert, Anna Paquin, Nia Vardalos, Estella Warren

3. Musician:
The Guess Who, Bryan Adams, Celine Dion, Shania Twain, Allanis Morisette, Diana Krall, Bare Naked Ladies, Crash Test Dummies, Moist(David Usher), Avril Lavigne, Sum 41

.... and so many more i don't recall here you fool... i would say canadian representation in north america is strong, if not disproportionatly large...

do your homework next time

{Peace}

Canuck 02-15-04 10:36 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Timeless
canada is bum and all ways will be!! usa WANABE!!!


Can't wait till us Canadians can talk like him ^ Fuck'n retard....



-Anyway-

Conan was 100% right. Quebec sucks, and so do their people. They get more money from the government then anywhere else in Canada, and their usless with no resourses, no money, and the only thing goin for them is the population.

With that said, I can care less about yet another 'American' celeberity come'n through here. Fuck, Ice Cube, Anthony Hopkins, Brad Pitt and his bitch, plus many more are up here all the time, plus Snoop has a house here too. Those in this thread who have actually been here, know this place is dope, I don't need to explain that.

AND, saying that Canadians hate Americans, is just plain bullshit.
WE HATE BUSH, NOT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE except the ignorant ones who think we're trying to be Americans, thas jus plain silly.

DaGyrlRemarqabL 02-15-04 10:54 AM

When he's in America he makes fun of Americans, so what did they think he was gonna do when he got to Canada?...Shit, if you can't laugh at yourself a little, what can you laugh at? C'mon Canada...Don't hate on Coney "my babies.."

.:FiorZ:. 02-15-04 11:08 AM

i dnt really care bout canadians....
i aint one so it dnt bother me

but it sounds stupid how they bitch a lot

Mag... 02-15-04 11:09 AM

not sayin it isn't funny when it's done right... Canada has a strong history of makin fun of itself.. check out the shows "Royal Canadian Air Farce" and "This Hour has 22 Minutes"

but there is a limit to good taste...

{Peace}

self 02-15-04 11:47 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnificent
1. Actors:
Joshua Jackson, Donald Sutherland, Kiefer Sutherland, Keanu Reeves, Brendan Fraser, Norm MacDonald, William Shatner, Hayden Christenson, Tom Green, Matthew Perry, Martin Short, Dan Akroyd, Mike Myers, Howie Mandel, Jim Carrey, Alan Thicke, Phil Hartman, Michael J. Fox, Leslie Nielson, Lorne Greene

2. Actresses:
Natasha Henstridge, Neve Campbell, Pamela Anderson Lee, Jennifer Tilly, Carrie-Anne Moss, Elisha Cuthbert, Anna Paquin, Nia Vardalos, Estella Warren

3. Musician:
The Guess Who, Bryan Adams, Celine Dion, Shania Twain, Allanis Morisette, Diana Krall, Bare Naked Ladies, Crash Test Dummies, Moist(David Usher), Avril Lavigne, Sum 41

The one actor you listen that ever mentions Canada is Mike Myers. Aside from Dan Akroyd, ...but he is mediocre. Most of Canada's actors and actesses are on the B list.
Actresses, no one ever mentions Canada.

The Guess Who, there is one.
Bryan Adams. I would hardly call that music. Dude is horrid.
Celine Dion...We all wish she wasn't Canadian.
Shania Twain. 2.
Allanis...oh god, just what we need, a feminist. Go Canada/
Bare Naked Ladies. They are good sometimes, so they can count as half a person.
Avril Lavigne...Grrrrrreat. Such ammmmmmmazing music.
Sum 41...Great, lets make the real punk community hate us because of them.




Buck 65 baby!

self 02-15-04 11:51 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaGyrlRemarqabL
When he's in America he makes fun of Americans, so what did they think he was gonna do when he got to Canada?...Shit, if you can't laugh at yourself a little, what can you laugh at? C'mon Canada...Don't hate on Coney "my babies.."


Exactly. I love Conan. Like come on, don't be idiots. I feel pride having him make fun of where I'm from.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnificent
not sayin it isn't funny when it's done right... Canada has a strong history of makin fun of itself.. check out the shows "Royal Canadian Air Farce" and "This Hour has 22 Minutes"

but there is a limit to good taste...

{Peace}


Um...those shows aren't that great.
Conan rules them all.

Mag... 02-15-04 11:57 AM

You guys are either missing the point or trying to get me annoyed... which isn't going to happen...

I never said i liked avril lavigne or air farce... im just sayin they are out there...sheesh...

Oh and who goes around trumpeting what country they're from??? Duh, these guys don't regularly say their canucks... but i don't see nicole kidman, mel gibson, or naomi watts announcing their aussies all the time...

{Peace}

Freeman 02-15-04 12:01 PM

Ive never been...

So a wouldnt know either way...

But your flag is dope... Make-Belief... Not sure of the spelling...

Its just a dope flag / name for it...

Props to whoever thought of that... Lol...

Pz...

Canuck 02-15-04 12:05 PM

no no, Maple Leaf.

Maven 02-15-04 12:11 PM

LMAO Make-Belief....I'm gonna call it that from now on!

self 02-15-04 12:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maven
LMAO Make-Belief....I'm gonna call it that from now on!


But...aren't we just Make-Belief?

Lokinator 02-15-04 12:20 PM

terrence and philip put canada on thee map, baby. .

self 02-15-04 12:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lokinator
terrence and philip put canada on thee map, baby. .


Blame Canada pointed to us. :rolleyes:

Freeman 02-15-04 12:33 PM

:)...

Silly me... Knew it was close... Lol...

Archeologist 02-15-04 01:07 PM

Canada's dope man and we dont hate on USA .......
well i dont anyway!...

Canuck 02-15-04 01:11 PM

Fuck that, the next person that comes in and say's "...all those Canadians do is hate on us, and they complain...wah..wah..wah..."

I'm gonna e-knock-tha-fuck-outta-ya

bouncedoggydog 02-15-04 05:49 PM

"...all those Canadians do is hate on us, and they complain...wah..wah..wah..."


I said it! Go ahead eknock-the=fuck-outta-me.


Or you can do it off the net, either way just thought i'd caLL your bluff!

Taktik 02-15-04 07:15 PM

Ok .... this is a big deal in Canada b/c our French Canadians r very insecure about there placement in Canada, and when they think we(other canadians) are bashin on them they take it very personally....I myself do not give a shit ... the french r assholes ... and every bit was tru.... altho i can see why the french r upset and why are government is mad at the "conan" program...

the next issue...

I cant understand why Americans would say that Canada "hates america" , cuz do we actually hate anyone in the world? No, it may appear this way ... cuz we get no recognition from the States for anything .... we get blamed .... for Sars(still depicted of having it), Mad Cow (bullshit that its because of us) and other stupid bullshit ... American Citizens say Blame Canada but do you actually have any idea what we provide for you? i highly doubt it ... Fish, Oil, Wood, Meat we support american more then you think .... and as America's biggest trading we should get more respect

... its a proven Fact that americans really have no idea about what actually goes on up here .... but i bet that if an american came up here and asked random questions to Canadians about America we could answer most of the Questions

On the CBC here in Canada there was this special where they went all over the States to towns, universites(harvard) and asked americans questions about canada .... and let me tell you Americans knew absolutly nothin .... Certain questions asked were " Do you believe it would be better if Canada started to build homes rather then igloos" Now in anywhere remotely populated r there any Igloos anywhere No! this is just plain ignorance .... which isnt good for anybody

Now lets everyone learn to respectful of each other and we will be good neighbors, im sure most of you arent ignorant about canada but those older folk couldnt answer anything about Canada ....

Im done my rant lol

bouncedoggydog 02-15-04 07:37 PM

I know more about Canada and it's defense operations than do most of your Military. I work to defend your nation just as much as I do my own. I train your Engineers to use the hardware that keeps your country safe. I design systems that protect your borders and keeps your Airspace secure, so it's not like I am oblivous to your Country. Yet my efforts and those of countless others never get recognized. We get rediculed and looked down upon because most do not understand the complex situations and hold defense workers in low regard. Canada provides many services to our Country, but no one in Canada wants to recognise the service we provide you. Not all but most have the same attidue. I would give my own life defending your country, as I would my own, even thought when I'm there to support your defense infulstructure I get protested against. I get treated like a red headed step child with sars. I've gotten death threats and tires slashed while in your country! Yet I do my job and offer the best service I can to your noble county, but nonetheless I get hate. I look at it as ignorance and move on. All this complaining about the US, when there are much worse people who could run this country than Bush. When those people take control of the country you'll wish we had Bush back. This country is capable of taking justt about any country in the world, yet we have only worked to liberate countires, is that really that bad in comparison to historical records of coutires with the same ratio of power. No, but when one of those true monsters takes office in DC, you can bet he's going to march right into Canada and every other country at his will. That is why I do not understand such content for our current adminstration, but I guess when the very worse happens people might soon after get a clue....

Taktik 02-15-04 07:50 PM

well at least ur an informed american

u do provide us with 1 thing

security....

all tho we would never be the target of a bombing , if something were to ever happen ud be there to help

America gets enuff credit ... what kind of recognition do you think US deserves?

bouncedoggydog 02-15-04 08:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taktik
well at least ur an informed american

u do provide us with 1 thing

security....

all tho we would never be the target of a bombing , if something were to ever happen ud be there to help

America gets enuff credit ... what kind of recognition do you think US deserves?


The credit we desrve is not to be likended to the war machine of Nazi germany. Comparing our President to Hitler is your form of recognition, portraying our country as tyrants is the credit we get. That is the recognisiton we get, but is not what we deserve. When America grows tired of the labels and takes actions to justify the lables then I guess you'd be right, but until then it's in the worlds best interest that America does exist today.


Sure you have not stirred up any hate towrds your country so there is not international anomosity toawds you. Does that mean that some rouge nation wouldn't raid your nation just because you guys are nice? Hell no, that makes you a target just as well. The world as fucked up as it sounds only respects power, espaicially the arab world. Saddman is proff of this, although he killed arabs by the numbers, he was the sole power of their world, so he was allowed to exsits. Do you really think you would have a country if it was relocated to the region now occupied by Isreal? Hell no, you would have been invaded by countless armies. It's nothing that can be argued, it's plain fact. The only reason Isreal survies today is it's awesome mililary might and close ties to America. If America turned it's back to Isreal Arab armies would be marching on it's captial by sun rise. I don't expect a bunch of kids to fully understand such complex defense concepts or even analize information as such, but I do expect more kids to have comon sense. I understand that I do have access to more information than you kids will ever get to see in your life time (well most of you) but it's still not hard to make sense out of. The world is not a perfect place, it's dangerous to assume peace would previal without the use of force. It never has been the case in history, what would make it the case today? Only ignorance could make such a case agaisnt historical fact!

Holl-a-kiss 02-16-04 11:01 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnificent
Self you idiot....

Right off the top i have to say there is a difference between honest satirical comedy and outright prejudice exploitation... but i didnt' see the show so i won't say conan did anything wrong yet...

secondly, only 3 famous persons from the Great White North!!!! are you on drugs...

...seriously....

1. Actors:
Joshua Jackson, Donald Sutherland, Kiefer Sutherland, Keanu Reeves, Brendan Fraser, Norm MacDonald, William Shatner, Hayden Christenson, Tom Green, Matthew Perry, Martin Short, Dan Akroyd, Mike Myers, Howie Mandel, Jim Carrey, Alan Thicke, Phil Hartman, Michael J. Fox, Leslie Nielson, Lorne Greene

2. Actresses:
Natasha Henstridge, Neve Campbell, Pamela Anderson Lee, Jennifer Tilly, Carrie-Anne Moss, Elisha Cuthbert, Anna Paquin, Nia Vardalos, Estella Warren

3. Musician:
The Guess Who, Bryan Adams, Celine Dion, Shania Twain, Allanis Morisette, Diana Krall, Bare Naked Ladies, Crash Test Dummies, Moist(David Usher), Avril Lavigne, Sum 41

.... and so many more i don't recall here you fool... i would say canadian representation in north america is strong, if not disproportionatly large...

do your homework next time

{Peace}


Dont forget

4. diseases:

ya got SARS

Canuck 02-16-04 11:04 AM

But it ain't about Israel, it's about Canada, the 2nd largest Country in the world. The country with the most Natural Resources in the world, and above all that, we're bordering your country. So damn rights the U.S. will do what it takes to protect us, same goes with Mexico.

Bounce, you know your shit, and I've learned a lot from you just reading your post's. But what you must understand is, the media play's the largest role in any conflict amoung 2 nations.

First, Canada has no 'Canadian' TV channels, but CBC. The rest is American, so we watch, read and listen to your news, commercials, etc. We are force-fed American culture, but at the same time we get Arabic channels, British Channel, etc. and we see other perspectives other than our own. You have to admit our immigration standards are much more lax than yours, meaning I grew up with Blacks, Arabics, Mexicans, Jamacians, Chinese, Japanese, all on one street, not segrigated to it's communities.

You can ask any Canadian about 9/11, around that time, and they'll say..." I can't believe they'd do somthing like that to us......."

We consider ourselves family, and your our protector, we don't hate. We do hate the ignorance, like .." I like your Make-Belief flag" then we correct them and say " no, it's a Maple Leaf.." People thought my province of Alberta was a State in America!

Canada does not suck dammit.

The End 02-16-04 11:39 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Canuck
But it ain't about Israel, it's about Canada, the 2nd largest Country in the world. The country with the most Natural Resources in the world, and above all that, we're bordering your country. So damn rights the U.S. will do what it takes to protect us, same goes with Mexico.

But what he is saying is, if we had the mindsets of other nations, we would see all the benifets of Canada and take it over, rather than risk our lives defending foreign soil.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Canuck

Bounce, you know your shit, and I've learned a lot from you just reading your post's. But what you must understand is, the media play's the largest role in any conflict amoung 2 nations.

First, Canada has no 'Canadian' TV channels, but CBC. The rest is American, so we watch, read and listen to your news, commercials, etc. We are force-fed American culture, but at the same time we get Arabic channels, British Channel, etc. and we see other perspectives other than our own. You have to admit our immigration standards are much more lax than yours, meaning I grew up with Blacks, Arabics, Mexicans, Jamacians, Chinese, Japanese, all on one street, not segrigated to it's communities.

^ Umm, you obviously have never been to America. Right now, I am a minority in most of my classes in my college. If you are picturing America as a strictly white neighborhood with only one 'other' race at the end of the street, you are greatly mistaken.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Canuck

You can ask any Canadian about 9/11, around that time, and they'll say..." I can't believe they'd do somthing like that to us......."

We consider ourselves family, and your our protector, we don't hate. We do hate the ignorance, like .." I like your Make-Belief flag" then we correct them and say " no, it's a Maple Leaf.." People thought my province of Alberta was a State in America!

Seeing as 9/11 hit so close to home, and was directed as your protectors, you should feel some sort of sorrow for this nation over it. As for 'we just hate ignorance', the problem is alot of Canadians that I talked to believe that the majority of us are ignorant. This leads them to thinking the nation in general is ignortant, thus the hatred for America. (the Make-Belief flag thing is hilarious, never heard that before. :) )


Quote:
Originally Posted by Canuck

Canada does not suck dammit.

It may not suck, but there are several things that I don't like about it.

Canuck 02-16-04 11:59 AM

I lived in the U.S. for just under a year, so yes I know your ethnic diversity is as apparent as ours.

Yes I believe most, not all, but most Americans are ignorant about Canada, Canadians, and it's history, yet we learn in school from grade 1 to 12 about American laws, government, history, geography, etc.

In some cases I know more about America than some of my American friends who have lived there all their lives.

self 02-16-04 12:01 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Canuck

First, Canada has no 'Canadian' TV channels, but CBC. The rest is American, so we watch, read and listen to your news, commercials, etc. We are force-fed American culture, but at the same time we get Arabic channels, British Channel, etc. and we see other perspectives other than our own. You have to admit our immigration standards are much more lax than yours, meaning I grew up with Blacks, Arabics, Mexicans, Jamacians, Chinese, Japanese, all on one street, not segrigated to it's communities.


As you said, CBC.
There's Omni One (who has rights to many American made T.V. shows)
CTV (same witht he rights thing)
City TV (again, the rights thing)

But now, we have this amazing Channel in Toronto called Toronto 1. Oh it is soooo great. :banghead:


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