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~Luciano~ 07-25-04 01:31 AM

2 Pac vs Jay-z
 
Alright the best 2 mc-s of all time but who is truely number 1

killlah 07-25-04 06:00 AM

Really I feel this is a no contest on the ground that tha nigga is dead. Pac was rippin on jay back in the day but thats been a minute ago and jigga has definately upped his language on some real shit. With that being said what if Pac was still livin? Im definatle sure he would have some shit fa ya asses. If this poll would have been back then I would say Pac. But I cant make up my mind till I get some feed back so tell me something!

!RIFF RAFF! 07-25-04 08:19 AM

stupid fucking stupid.
tupac fa sho.......
though i think neither are the greatest of all time...
thats spots held down by em....
tupacs sold 27 million records...most of which he sold when he was dead.
ems sold 23 million records.. and he aint even dead yet...

Myster.E 07-25-04 10:05 AM

Basically... Tupac was more raw. Jigga didn't really step-up until Big n Pac left. Even then Nas still steals da spotlight from him now and again.

L.A.STR~E~TZ 07-25-04 11:11 AM

LMFAO, jay-z would destroy tupac.

No fuckin' contest. Tupac was good emotionally but Jay-z is just a better battler.

You dickheads are just dickriders. "tupac was the best rapper ever"-Fuck that shit.

SONIC 07-25-04 11:48 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by !RIFF RAFF!
stupid fucking stupid.
tupac fa sho.......
though i think neither are the greatest of all time...
thats spots held down by em....
tupacs sold 27 million records...most of which he sold when he was dead.
ems sold 23 million records.. and he aint even dead yet...


I don't think I like you no more.. you're kinda .. i won't say ignorant, but unconcious...

If Em sold 23 million, it is because waaaaaaaaaay more white people by his album than did Pac.. Em still hasn't produced a CD that lives up to All Eyes on me.. Pac made albums in a matter of days too.. Eminem puts out albums every couple of years.. Pac made All Eyes on me in 2 weeks.. damn...
Pac was a better poet.. he expressed his feelings better.. he was a better writer.. (wrote shit quicker than Em, Em can't write on the spot)
Pac lived what he raped, Pac told better stories, Pac had more meaningful and clearer meta's, Pac had a better voice, he made way, way, way better songs then him ( they are timeless, that's why he sells after death), Pac did this without being produced by Dre (don't be ignorant ya'll, Daz n other producers made his tracks, look at the credits), Pac had a better smoother, n nicer flow to the beat, Pac was smarter and wiser, he didn't sell out and go commercial, he aimed for the minority community and still sold more albums..
All of that pertains to Jay-z too.. this thread is actually dumb.. and Riff Raff, i'm dissapointed in you.. Ya'll all must be some Eminem Zombies to disrespect rap and say that a former drug addict who rhymes good and bags on his mom is better than the late, posthumous, internationally revered Tupac Shakur?

Forgive them Pac^

R.I.P
Tupac Amaru Shakur

1971-1996, The West Coast misses you.....................................
Jay-z doesn't count, this thread is dumb, It would of been better with Big n Pac..

SONIC 07-25-04 11:51 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by L.A.STR~E~TZ
LMFAO, jay-z would destroy tupac.

No fuckin' contest. Tupac was good emotionally but Jay-z is just a better battler.

You dickheads are just dickriders. "tupac was the best rapper ever"-Fuck that shit.


And you don't even have a decent record, so u don't know enough about hip hop to beat a cyber geek in a battle.. you def. wouln't know enough to judge Pac's transcendent lyrics and message....

*-FoH-DeE-* 07-25-04 12:48 PM

Enough with these polls.

Big L gets my vote for the best rapper of all time.

Nothing against pac, i like him to. but L could destroy anyone with no problem.

SONIC 07-25-04 12:50 PM

I agree with you.. That's why rappers and MC's are two different thing.. Pac was the greatest MC, and I always thought that Big L was better than Biggie.. Big L
was the best "Rapper" ever..

La Cosa Nostra 07-25-04 12:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by L.A.STR~E~TZ
LMFAO, jay-z would destroy tupac.

No fuckin' contest. Tupac was good emotionally but Jay-z is just a better battler.

You dickheads are just dickriders. "tupac was the best rapper ever"-Fuck that shit.



ever heard hit em up?

tupac used to battle back in the day when he was with strictly dope.. so a lot of his rhymes back then were set up like battles, he just got over it, "elevated" or whatever lol

Wicked One 07-25-04 01:30 PM

They both good.....But 2pac is much better.....AND FUCK EMINEM.....seriously....i dont care he good.....but still too many d/r's on him....but 2pac would beat jay....

For$akeN 07-25-04 01:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Trooper
Alright the best 2 mc-s of all time but who is truely number 1


they aren't the greatest of all-time...but Pac gets my vote........

SONIC 07-25-04 01:37 PM

Yea Jay-z isn't, but Pac was...

KroNuz 07-25-04 03:07 PM

jay z nicer than pac was lyrically... but pac had more heart...

SONIC 07-25-04 03:35 PM

^I see why someone would say that, but Pac was overall better.. i can't believe that this is even close cuz.. ya'll just rebelling against Pac coz mostly everyone loves him....

Sik Wit It 07-25-04 04:15 PM

................Tupac would merk Jay-Z.......................

~Luciano~ 07-25-04 06:58 PM

uppin for votes people keep em comin

MaFiA_CHiCK 07-25-04 07:50 PM

there aint no vottin we all know
the home boi 2pac is the best rapper eva

Drastic 07-25-04 10:06 PM

Tupac would destroy jay z hands down lets get serious now.......come on

Tempa 07-26-04 12:24 AM

This is tha most one sided "rapper vs. rapper" i've seen yet.......everyone knows that Jay Z would rip Pac so easily.....cuz he's HOV.......







































Jea fuckin right......Pac owned tha rap game when he was alive did and still does own tha fuckin rap game till someone better comes along......which it might be a while so grab a snickers...R.I.P....

Saytin 07-26-04 12:27 AM

There Is No Doubt That Pac is Better and Would Murder Jay..on The Mic..not
Taking Anything From Jay-Z tho..he is Good n-all but Not He's Not On Pac's Level..

mAtW 07-26-04 01:12 AM

yall betta take the fuckin blind folds off,yeh maybe nowadayz jayz mite beat pac,i can imagine the pussy leaning ova a gravestone trying to battle,even then hed have trouble,if your a real rapper,youd know who would whoop who and pacs the fucking legend,jayz aint so get your fucking facts str8 b4 you get ya mouth taped

amayze 07-26-04 01:22 AM

to b 4real TUPACis better than
JAY-Z even though J did step up
his game he has nuttin on PAC
but album wise BIGGIE is da best
rapper of all times he sold more dan
both n won more awards wit 3 albums
TUPAC has over 15 n HOV has about 5 or 6

Da Vinci 07-26-04 03:17 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by !RIFF RAFF!
stupid fucking stupid.
tupac fa sho.......
though i think neither are the greatest of all time...
thats spots held down by em....
tupacs sold 27 million records...most of which he sold when he was dead.
ems sold 23 million records.. and he aint even dead yet...



Do the math, Pac only was release'n albums for about 5 years 91-96, (when he died) Any combination of 5 years of Em's doesn't add up to that, If pac was make'n new shit for as long as Em has (7 years) he'd have a hell of alot more records sold. Em ain't the best in my opinion, One of, probably but not the best.

JaeBurnz354 07-26-04 09:31 AM

Yo whyw ould you make this thread.To even think that jay is better then B.I.G or Nas is fuckin crazy.Then to even think that Jay-Z should ever be in the same sentence as Pac is retarted.Pac hands down nuff said.No more.

Tha Unknown (Uk) 07-28-04 11:52 PM

Pac nigga

JaeBurnz354 07-29-04 03:50 AM

All ima say is download die slow by tupac the diss to jay-z and listen to him rip him.

Da Vinci 07-29-04 04:02 AM

Shame on the two that voted for Jay Z

JaeBurnz354 07-29-04 04:19 AM

^ lmao word up haHa

Abraxas 07-29-04 11:10 AM

...Tupac...
Omg Jay-z ain't that good...
Tupac has freakin' 1000+ song's and some haven't been produced yet...

Da Vinci 07-30-04 04:27 PM

This is a no brainer

lyricalmetaphor 07-30-04 04:52 PM

Pac is the better then any of them cats pac did a show a day jay z did 2 records a year come on this is no contest lyrically pac advanced daily Pac was on a whole nother level then jayz ....jayz himself would say battle pac ..you got me fucked up he is the best to do it ..he even says in his song that he is "the best rapper alive "..cause if pac was here he knows damn well he would lose..and thats what i stickin to ...voted pac hands down

Tempa 07-30-04 06:22 PM

I can't believe 2 people voted for Jay Z over 2pac...

The Black Plague 07-30-04 06:30 PM

Damn ya'll, Pac and Nas are the two best ever, Jay Z may be in a distant third, maybe...

This isn't even close, because Pac was much better...

If it was between Pac and Nas... well it's a different story...

FLooZe 07-30-04 10:34 PM

What kind of question is this?Pac merks dat boy hands down.

L.A.STR~E~TZ 07-30-04 11:40 PM

LMFAO, you kids are ignorant.

Hit em' up
First off, fuck your bitch
And the click you claim
West side when we ride
Come equipped with game
You claim to be a playa
But, I fucked your wife
We bust on Bad Boys
niggas fuck for Life
Plus Puffy tryin' to see me weak
Hearts I rip
Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia
Some mark ass bitches
We keep on coming
While we running for yah jewels
Steady gunning
Keep on busting at them fools
You know the rules
Little Ceasar go ask you homie
How i'll leave yah
Cut your young ass up
See yah in pieces
Now be deceased
Little Kim,
Don't fuck with real ass G's
Quick to snatch your ugly ass, off the streets
So fuck peace
I'll let them niggas know
It's on for Life
Don't let the west side
Ride the night (ha ha)
Bad Boys murdered on Wax and kill
fuck with me
And get your caps peeled
You know, See

Take over
I don't care if you Mobb Deep, I hold triggers to crews
You little FUCK, I've got money stacks bigger than you
When I was pushin weight, back in eighty-eight
you was a ballerina I got your pictures I seen ya
Then you dropped "Shook Ones," switch your demeanor
Well - we don't believe you, you need more people
Roc-A-Fella, students of the game, we passed the classes
Nobody could read you dudes like we do
Don't let 'em gas you like Jigga is ass and won't clap you
Trust me on this one - I'll detach you
Mind from spirit, body from soul
They'll have to hold a mass, put your body in a hole
No, you're not on my level get your brakes tweaked
I sold what ya whole album sold in my first week
You guys don't want it with Hov'
Ask Nas, he don't want it with Hov', nooooo!

Jay-z is obviously the better battler. All that tupac can do is say fuck you. Jay-z has actual wordplay and not just "fuck ya bitch". It's no contest between them. You kids just think that pac is the greatest, he's not close. Rakim could kill pac, KRS-One could destroy pac, Kane and rick could even do it. Tupac has great emotion but that's about it.

And my record is shit, I don't care what my record says on this site. I only come to this site to try to teach you dumbfucks something. I could name 10 rappers better than tupac. You guys need to get off pacs dick and start listenning to some real hip hop.

SONIC 07-30-04 11:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by L.A.STR~E~TZ
LMFAO, you kids are ignorant.

Hit em' up
First off, fuck your bitch
And the click you claim
West side when we ride
Come equipped with game
You claim to be a playa
But, I fucked your wife
We bust on Bad Boys
niggas fuck for Life
Plus Puffy tryin' to see me weak
Hearts I rip
Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia
Some mark ass bitches
We keep on coming
While we running for yah jewels
Steady gunning
Keep on busting at them fools
You know the rules
Little Ceasar go ask you homie
How i'll leave yah
Cut your young ass up
See yah in pieces
Now be deceased
Little Kim,
Don't fuck with real ass G's
Quick to snatch your ugly ass, off the streets
So fuck peace
I'll let them niggas know
It's on for Life
Don't let the west side
Ride the night (ha ha)
Bad Boys murdered on Wax and kill
fuck with me
And get your caps peeled
You know, See

.




This dude didn't even quote Pac right and got the nerve to critisize the greatest battle track of all time.. suck a dick.. 19-2, tupac was the greatestt ever.. period

L.A.STR~E~TZ 07-31-04 12:04 AM

Greatest battle track?

ha, not even close. You say shit but you can't back it up. All you do is dickride pac' because you think he's the greatest rapper ever. Motherfuckers like you think you know something about rap and hip hop when you don't know shit. You don't know shit, All pac had was emotion. There was nothing special about his flow, wordplays, vocabulary, boasts, nothing special at all. The man was a great emotional rapper but when you say he's the G.O.A.T. then you goin' too far man. You stupid ignorant fuck, you think because he's voted number one on an MTV countdown that it automatically makes him the greatest? I challenge you to find a better pac' battle track than the take over, super ugly, the bridge is over, any of those songs.

Lampejo 07-31-04 11:58 AM

Jay, I'm so tired of everyone sayin Pac is unmatched. Think he has his spot secured because he's dead. He's already been surpassed by many, hate that but facts are facts.

Barburyin 08-31-04 05:30 PM

ima have ta say 2pac hes da 1 that started that whole hardcore rap hes the man the myth n tha legand cant no 1 stop him from makin hit he makin hits from tha grave so def 2pac


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