Attention Nas Dickriders: Ether is Garbage
 

I said it...

Im sick of some of these cats all on nas's dick like "oh hes the best battle rapper go listen to ether"...not even close hes mad basic...

as far as making music...hes ill no question...but hes a poetic/deep/political cat hes not built for battles at all...so i did everyone the favor of my line-by-line review...

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Nas - Ether

[gunshots]

[Nas talking]
("Fuck Jay-Z")
What's up niggas, ay yo, I know you ain't talkin 'bout me dog
You, what?
("Fuck Jay-Z")
You been on my dick nigga, you love my style, nigga
("Fuck Jay-Z")
->>i think fuck jay-z is sampled off a pac song and slowed down...not really a lyric so no review

[Chorus]
(I) Fuck with your soul like ether
(Will) Teach you the king you know you
(Not) "God's son" across the belly
(Lose) I prove you lost already
->>meh...decent...I like the I WILL NOT LOSE being emphasied at the begginning...5/10

Brace yourself for the main event
Y'all impatiently waitin
It's like an AIDS test, what's the results?
->>weak...I mean its alright but not great...was results supposed to rhyme with something? 3/10

Not positive, who's the best? Pac, Nas and Big
->>positive..nas and big...blah terrible...1/10

Ain't no best, East, West, North, South, flossed out, greedy
->>terrible...I know my directions...0/10

I embrace y'all with napalm
Blows up, no guts, left chest, face gone
->>first rhyming bar in the song...decent 4/10

How could Nas be garbage?
Semi-autos at your cartilege
->>yawn...1/10

Burner at the side of your dome, come outta my throne
->>no second line...not creative at all...bleh 1/10

I got this, locked since '9-1
->>ok...did you forget you were rappin? 0/10

I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced
Gave y'all chapters but now I keep my eyes on the Judas
With Hawaiin Sophie fame, kept my name in his music
Check it
->>hawaiin sophie fame was something pac said about jay-z before nas...i actually kinda like this bar and a half...5/10

[Chorus]

[talking]
Ay yo, pass me the weed, pour my ashes out on these niggas man (no doubt)
Ay, y'all faggots, y'all kneel and kiss the fuckin ring

[Chorus]

I've been fucked over, left for dead, dissed and fogotten
Luck ran out, they hoped that I'd be gone, stiff and rotten
->>filler...4/10

Y'all just piss on me, shit on me, spit on my grave (uh)
Talk about me, laugh behind my back but in my face
->>filler...quit crying this is a battle track...3/10

Y'all some "well wishers," friendly actin, envy hidin snakes
With your hands out for my money, man, how much can I take?
->>you know if you saw this in front lines youd tell them to elevate...hes got vocab but hes not saying anything 2/10

When these streets keep callin, heard it when I was sleep
That this Gay-Z and Cockafella Records wanted beef
->>crazy childish...har har...2/10

Started cockin up my weapon, slowly loadin up this ammo
To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, I can handle
->>weak...3/10

This for dolo and it's manuscript, just sound stupid
When KRS already made an album called Blueprint
->>first personal in the track...ill 8/10

First, Biggie's ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than Big
Dick suckin lips, whyn't you let the late, great veteran live
->>blah...so-so 5/10

[talking]
(I...will...not...lose)
"God's son" across the belly, I prove you lost already
The king is back, where my crown at?
(Ill...will) Ill Will rest in peace, let's do it niggas

[Chorus]

Y'all niggas deal with emotions like bitches
What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother...you traded your soul for riches
->>decent...5/10

My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous
And now I smile like a proud dad, watchin his only son that made it
->>good punch...7/10

You seem to be only concerned with dissin women
->>not rap...talking...should have had another line...0/10

Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Well life is hard, hug me,
->>ehh...its ok...5/10

don't reject me
Or make records to disrespect me, blatent or indirectly
->>flows good ut bhes not saying anything...3/10

In '88 you was gettin chased through your buildin
->>not rap...talking...should have had another line...0/10

Callin my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers
All I did was gave you a style for you to run with
->>wack...there are waaaaay harder-hitting ways to say he took your style other than 'you took my style' 1/10

Smilin in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearin Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
->>filler...3/10

No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hangin with little Chase
->>filler...3/10

You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pussy, a Stan
->>not rap...talking...should have had another line...0/10

I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate class
->>not rap...talking...should have had another line...0/10

You Tae-bo hoe, tryna' work it out, you tryna' get brolic?
Ask me if I'm tryna' kick knowledge
->>filler...wouldve been a 4 but he said tae-bo ho...3/10

Nah, I'm tryna' kick the shit you need to learn though
That ether, that shit that make your soul burn slow
->>good imagery...i give it 5/10

Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy
->>blah...its decent...5/10

Rockafeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after?
->>weak...2/10

Put it together, I rock hoes, y'all rock fellas
And now y'all try to take my spot, fellas?
Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
->>Zzz...Zzz...4/10

Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her puss
What you think, you gettin girls now 'cause of your looks?
->>decent personal...5/10

Ne-gro please
You no mustache havin, with whiskers like a rat
Compared to Beans you wack
->>wack...1/10

And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
You ass, went from Jaz to hangin with Caine, to Herb, to Big
->>filler...who is un? only Jay would understand this punch...4/10

And, Eminem murdered you on your own shit
->>^^werd...but not rap...talking...should have had another line...0/10

You a dick-ridin faggot, you love the attention
Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons
->>blah...3/10

Ha, R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick
J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick
Your whole damn record label gunned up and clapped quick
->>doesnt count...

Shaun Carter to Jay-Z, damn you on Jaz dick
So little shorty's gettin gunned up and clapped quick
How much of Biggie's rhymes is gon' come out your fat lips?
Wanted to be on every last one of my classics
You pop shit, apologize, nigga, just ask Kiss
->>first and third lines ill...2,4,5 wack...5/10



Well there's my review of the 'best battle track ever' hopefully you can open your eyes now and see that without production it is totally wack...im too lazy to add it up but id say somewhere overall its about 3 or 4 out of 10...it really isnt that good of a song...I dont think nas is as good a battler as everyone makes him out to be...feedback?

yo fuck this ether was fire

read it and tell me what you disagree with...dont just read the title and reply

This dude doesn't have a life at all, anybody can spend an hour copying rhymes, misquoting, and putting low scores by the bars.. I would of scored a 9 on where you put 2, so your opinion is Bullshit, Nas is the illest out right now, hands down, ether was pure fire, so you fuck off..

and you really are a loser, example of how.. you said

how can nas be garbage
semi-auto's at yo cartilage 2/10

yo can't even score that you internet geek, why do you try to score a classic battle track like a fuckin rapverse.com battle, you're confused dude, you don't know how to judge quality, everyone loves ether..

ether was pure fire and nas will alwayz be one of tha best that ever done it

ha...i can already tell im just gonna get 50 replies from nas dickriders like "fuck you ether is fire"...if i took the time to type out what i though of each bar you can take the time to copy and paste what you dont agree with

the fact of the matter is that if this was in front lines and it wasnt by nas you would say the same thing I did so dont even front

and if Im wrong about that and you can actually come at me with something logical other than 'fuck you nas is ill' then I will not say one bad word about you...I seriously cant see how people think this song is ill and i really want to know the opposing veiwpoint...

why you cut bars in half dick 2 flow plays a part in real life 3 that shit was dope where you said nas first personal there was like 6 before that but you dont know what hes talking about you must be from europe or some shit ether was dope as fuck hater

nas is ill...Im not arguing that

hes just not made for battles...hes a street poet but he has no gift for developing punches other than

"ill shoot you"

like he cant spin played concepts so ether sounds played to me...

schema fuck off fa real man dont hate cause you fuckin suck nas is fire tha greatest mc we have today ether was one of tha best battle tracks

that bar is completely wack...i dont care what you say...any cat who had that in their battle i would tell them it was wack no matter if its some noob with 4 posts or e-looch...you cant see that its wack because nas said it but it is...its garbage

when have you ever heard a real head say 'well that entire song was wack but it flowed good so it must be ill' ...fuck outta here

then show me the proof...show me a punch i said was wack and explain why it isnt...you cant do it...i dont care about 2 sentence 'fuck you your wack nas is the best' replies...i dont hate nas...i hate nas dickriders that say shit is ill just because nas said it when its clearly wack...i hate any dickriders...i would tell nas to his face that ether was wack...am i the only one on this site who can be real...

im goin to bed...anyone with intelligent feedback ill be glad to discuss it with you tommorrow...

damn finally...nobody said nas is wack...nas is ill...this thread said ETHER is wack...which it is

word to forsaken

uppin for more people who can put an intelligent sentence together...

nas isnt the best rapper to me but damn he got ill music

actually....Schemas right ether sucked man........blah only a couple good punches If osmeone postedthat here evryone would laugh him off and sya elevate...Hes dope nad all but ether sucked.....Jay couldve murdered him easiyl.....blah most emcees here could ghostwrite bettter disses......plus another rappers eay to diss cuz hes famous evrything obut hims public but Nas fialed here in my opinioon......

But emcees didnt really have good diss tracks back then. I mean the person I recall back in the Nas/Pac/Big/Jay-Z era with beef and oncistent punches/dope disses were Tupac (bagged on Biggie bad 24/7) and Chino XL

werrrd...chinos been ill...hes still doin it download the freestyle with crooked I and him

you actually spent good time doing that for a song you claim to hate

you got me...i really love it it was just a trick

i broke it down because if i didnt everyone would have said 'ether is ill look at those dope punchlines' without giving any examples and this way i can be like "no there are no ill punchlines in ether give me an example of one"

youre welcome to try but i doubt youll find one other than the krs-one punch...

I dont have time for that!

I'm a busy man

alright i can see yall are havin trouble reading.....all your sayin is "fuck that nas is the illest out right now" schema wasn't knockin him as an mc....he was sayin ether was garb....and it was..Nas is one of the best mc's right now..was before..and always will be....that does not mean EVERY track is undeniably dope....Nas had maybe 4 punches in that whole track that made me so "ooh damn" the rest was just a bunch of filler type bullshit...which half of it didn't even rhyme...get off of the mans dick and admit that track wasn't up to par for a diss track...

and if ether is so ill....why doesn't somebody try to fire back at this thread..by outlining the song and displaying all the parts that make it "dope" with an explanation of why it's a good punch...

^^werd...


lol @ i dont have time

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Ok Schema, you know I don't ryde anyones dick.. but Nas is ill, and Ether was 1 of the best battle tracks ever...

The single lines you chopped off made it look bad, but rap isn't all about 2 line punches that rhyme, then 2 more punches that rhyme... Wack rappers rhyme like
"I'm so hood/you so good/" that is simple rap... Nas has complex rhymes, and he is dissin Jay withous jus comin up wit 2 line punches.. he's almost tellin a story to diss him...

"I still woop yo ass u 36 in a karate class? you tae bo ho"... then he flows to his next topic nicely..^^^ I thought that was hilarious, along wit the "Rocoafella died of AIDS that was the end of his chapter, and thats the guy ya'l chose to name ya company after? Put it together.. I rock ho's, ya'll rock fellas"... beautiful line, really creative... For you to say "0/10... It didn't rhyme" is stupid, because as i said raps not all about a 2 line ryme.... And the "well wishin, friendly actin envy hidin snakes" was nice... Most of Nas' lines have complex multies, and his flow is syck...

You are the only person i've ever heard say "Nas is not a battler, Ether is wack" because it's not true... Don't look at the song for it's great punches or an all 2 line ryme scheme... Look at it for its purpose... to diss Jay Z.. Look it as a diss put to music, and then maybe you will apreciate it..

^^ Im not gon break it down line for line, i think that explained it enough...

I could, but i aready proved my point

if it didn't rhyme..it shouldn't be considered as good.....anybody can just sit there and talk shit....

Schema, I can kinna understand why u feel that way about Ether. But KEEP this in mind , this was NASIRS 1ST FIGHT-coming FROM TOTAL inactivity- for more than 4YRS , GRIEVING his MOTHERS DEATH. BUT, with that 1 song he took away JAY-Z's seeming AURA of INVINCIBILITY. Nas did to JAY what RABBIT did to PAPA DOC-he revealed immbarrassing personal info on J (and thats a 'PERSONAL'-A HUGE PERSONAL) anytime some1 can get info like that on u. Also, REMEMBER, like someone ABOVE SAID already, there are DIFFERENT LEVELS of BATTLE (WRITTEN, AUDIO and LIVE-face to face) WITH their own DISTINCT JUDGING CRITERIA. See, though they share the common thread of being Battles, you must JUDGE them USING the CORRECT CRITERIA-OR ELSE u could END UP CALLING sumpthin GENIUS DUMB as fuk. U SED something like ,"with lyrics like that WE'D TELL THEM TO ELEVATE In Here", but u FAILED 2 JUDGE Ether on its CORRECT CRITERIA (Production, Flow, the Voices Bearing[calm, angry, the clearness of the voice etc.) To DRIVE IT HOME, let's look at MULTIS. YA'LL HERE on this site WORSHIP fukin MULTIS, But in LIVE BATTLE you DONT USE Overly COMPLEX Rhyme SCHEMES-'less u wanna lose- Cuz WHEN YOUR LIVE- FOLKS only GET 1 CHANCE to hear your shit and if U FUK UP or Mumble ,or Rap Super Fast, then THE CROWD ends up MISSING your Punchlines and Witty remarks and U WILL LOSE BADLY. Yes BADLY, even though u used a More Complex Rhyme Scheme and Sed 'Deeper' Shit than the other guy. See on the LIVE level of BATTLE-CLARITY, HUMOR and SIMPLICITY are far MORE important THAN fukin MULTIS and- "but I USED BIGGER WORDS than he did??!!??- So next time u JUDGE a thing KEEP that in mind, I mean that with NO HATE cuz I can appreciate your analytical way of examining things, it's quite interesting. I WROTE A FUKKIN LIBRARY-DAMN!! NUFF SED.1

Damn... ^^^ This 1 smart nigga, specially for a noob

word to your mother^^.:thumbup: aye somebody vote on my fuckin battle with -..Jono..- godammit! :cussing:

Nas is dope...ether isnt my favorite by him...but he's still dope

i havent listen to ether yet but im shure it doesn't measure up to illmatic.

lol at this nas hater.


Compared to Jay-Z's Got yourself gun..

This was fucking legendary.. it's a legendary disss...

Enougth said the beat the flow.. the personal`s.. the joke`s.

word to that .. that's exactly what i said.. audio and text is completly different becuase your not only judged by lyrics.

finally somebody diasgreed and was intelligent about it...

i see what youre saying about all the different judging criteria but still as i listen to ether it seems badly put together to me...like there honestly wasnt one punch in that whole thing that surprised me or made me think...it seemed overyl simple and childish compared to what im used to from nas...I understand about the 4 year inactivity but you cant come back at someone in a battle and be wack and then just blame it on inactivity...if you lost you lost and you cant just explain it away...im not a big fan of multis really...i think punches can be much better without them but you still have to have punches...maybe he revealed personal info about jay but i for one didnt know what he was talking about he might as well have made it up...he didnt explain it and he was in no way creative about it...you can take all the above criteria which i do agree is important in audio and say that its good but when it comes down to it if there are no punchlines its not a battle. and judging this battle track on punchlines shows you that its a terrible diss song. if it were just a regular song it would be good except when he falls off the rhyme...the part where h says 'you are overly concerned with dissing women' or whatever is awkard in the lyrics and even more awkward when you hear it...it totally fucks the flow up...this song feels like a rough draft to me...like nobody around him was man enough to tell him it needed work so they gassed him up and it got put out....and the production is ill I agree but theres no substance to the song..you cant call it a battle track if there are no punches...he had attempts but that entire song is boring to me nothing that makes me think and nothing that makes me laugh its very mediocre...people dont like to admit it because they love nas but that song is not good...NAS IS ILL but ether sucks. I mean the shit you were saying about flow and production and all that is true but that only enhances the song...it cant be the only good points in your song...just because you pour syrup on shit doesnt make it pancakes...

^^uppin^^

didnt i tel yaw?

nobody can have there own oppinion without being attacked for it

and shema was right...

already got all these reply's sayin shit was dope


ridin his dick so dam much and still
he didnt cum harder after illmatic

^^

dat aint evn rhyme and dats better then a battle verse from nas

~1~