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!Mc Merc! 08-30-04 01:04 AM

2PAC phonie blony???
 
i know a bunch of dickriders are gonna try and mame me,
but its possible that tupac could have been a puppet for the music industry to try and create a revolutionary puppet image that woulld gross them in millions,

1.Tupac ccontradicts himself so much it makes me sick

2.tupac is a little hypocrytical

3. tupac seems to have multi peronalities

4. tupacs death could be a fake, just to end the hype because his cred would start showing and he would lose the certifies thug image.

5. he started getting real scared after getting shot

6.wtf, BIIGIE?? i doubt that highly

7.his first albuma were not so GANGSTA

8.ihe gives a rats ass for hip hop, he barely even sasy that word!!
face it, hes a fcukin pose

9. he was an actor, ihe could fake shit

10. using his family rep to make llok bad

11.he cant write all that, so gohst writer fo sho

12. way too mainstream

13.recall the dissapearance of "black haze"

14. a man can be great, a man can be the best, but not in everything....

15. revolutonary, poet, actor ,rapper whos claims to be stoned all the time, plus he says hes a thug so he always in tha club or doing stupid shit, how can all these be balanced, plus all his other stuff

i'm to lazy to list more, but use your headniggas

M-Eazy 08-30-04 01:05 AM

summarize this shit...i dont like 2 pac either if thats wut you saying...i aint reading this...sum it up

The Militant 08-30-04 04:49 AM

ya both are fucked up dissin 2pac "oh hes not dead it was fake!"
bitchs please yall can suck my nuts

Definate Fully 08-30-04 04:52 AM

yea ... lol how the hell is he getting those songs when hes dead

The Militant 08-30-04 05:10 AM

cause pac recorded 3 songs a day have anyone of ya ever seen thug angal or resuraction

!Mc Merc! 08-30-04 03:09 PM

its called bullshit he was fake loser, awho did it for money and ya, hes probably dead, but a fake, anyone can say im a dinosaur, but am i?? REALLY, PAC EATS DIRT

Skippa 08-30-04 04:37 PM

^^i agree

lilchubs 08-30-04 05:10 PM

fuck yall tupac is the shit

UntouchableFlowz 08-30-04 08:56 PM

pac was a hard worker I think...and He was good at what he did

BZ No Mercy 08-31-04 11:57 PM

your gay....lol..pac is the best

Tycoon 09-01-04 12:01 AM

any real nigga knows pacs shit was real
his digital undergrround album and image does contradict his thug image-
but if he was a fake then he did tha same as easy-e and aint nobody hatin on him

Kawn Flixx 09-01-04 12:21 AM

^^ i disagree

on one album he claims to be so "real"

and the beggining of every track he says "thug life bitch"

i sware nas and jay-z can lyrically destroy pac one on one
in my oppinion

2pac was good compared to the rap BACK THEN

now this is a era where mase and puff ruled the world lol

now we have so many other rappers out now
and jay and nas still come out on top

~1~

Ice Pick 09-01-04 07:51 AM

I Hate Tupac

Always Have

Always Will

I Agree Jay Or Nas Would Rip Him To Shreds

Tupac Had To Many Bitch Songs

Mad Dog 09-01-04 08:00 AM

Yea i agree in sum aspects but the only reason why Jay & Nas have survived this era is because they have adapted their styles to this day and age...Pac's music goes up to 96 and stops if he was still here i'm pretty sure he'd be even better than back in 96...the rap games different Mase & Puff have fell off because they have ignored this shit...Jay & Nas have kept their styles appealing to the listeners and have proved that they are still top dogs in this game...if Pac was here it would be the same the words would prolly be the same but the style would be above Jay & Nas like it ALWAYS was until 96...

sindicate 09-01-04 12:30 PM

2pac a fake uhm he had some points but most of what you said i dont think you know what you are even talking about to begin with but whjatever ppl have dif opinions i say no no fake

mistah_tate 09-01-04 06:06 PM

well, i dont ride tupacs dick like most people do, but your first 3 "points" all basically said the same thing. tupac contradicted himself because he's fuckin human, he didnt always feel the same about one subject, peoples opinions change over time. look at nas, he came out with that friendly ass "i can" song, then his latest single is theif's theme...its just how it goes

~Sonofisis~ 09-01-04 06:24 PM

If Pac Were Alive, I Doubt That He'd Be OffendeD By A Bunch Of Low Life, White Boy Losers Who Get On Hip Hop Web Sites And Trash Him When They KNOW He's Dead.. Grow Up..

I'm Black, So Pac Was An Icon And Meant So Much To My People, He's The Only Rapper That Spoke From The Voice, That Mention A Revoulution, That Raped About Female Issues, That Had Love In The East & West
(niggas Don't Like East Coast Rappers Where I'm From), He Went Diamond With All Eyes On Me, Sold More Albums Than The Beasty Boys And Eminem In A Shorter Ammount Of Time, He Acted, He Wrote Poetry, He Wrote Plays, He Was A Fierce Battle Rapper, He Ate Big, He Ate Nas Already, Brushed Off Mobb Deep And Chino Xl, And Destoyed Bad Boys Image..

You People Need To Get A Life And Understand Real Hip Hop, Pac Was The Greatest Of All Fuckin Time, If You Don't Agree, Then You Don't Need To Listen To Hip Hop Because You're An Idiot, Period, I'm Done With This Gay Ass Thread, Fuck Every Single Word Ya'll Say, Because I'm Better Than All Ya'll, So My Opinion Counts More, Peace..

Pro. 09-01-04 06:35 PM

2pac is dead an gone his legecy is still strong.
an 2 say hes a phony only shows how much he stays on the minds of envious people like yall that dislike him.


matter of fact...hes even been givin a place in college.
So 2 me that man that was named tupac was the greatest alive an dead....biggie....jay-z....nas....have yet 2 prove threw their rhymes that they hold the same weight that 2-pac holds in his.Im not sayin hes the illest with multi's or wordplay,but he has the deepest of words ta come out since Huey Newton.So I say this....pac had the whole word screamin THUGLIFE!!!

Much love 2 tha people with nothin but hate against 2pac.
thats why we love him that much more....


-ColdSteeL :shoot:

Pro. 09-01-04 06:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Pick
I Hate Tupac

Always Have

Always Will

I Agree Jay Or Nas Would Rip Him To Shreds

Tupac Had To Many Bitch Songs

:laugh2:
this is what Im talkin bout...a person that doesnt understand the life that goes on in the streets.
How can you hate some1 you never loved...jus a question?
jay got rosted by nas,an nas got fired up by pac on "the seven day theory"..the truest shit he ever spoke.
so Pac killed those same people ur talkin bout...stupid!!! :nono:

Ice pick...shit aint that same name that actor use's on every kiss skit.What a Homo?

SkOtEe 09-01-04 06:47 PM

i just hate the way everybody dickrides him, yeah he was good but not better than every other rapper past or present!!

FLooZe 09-01-04 06:49 PM

Pac is untouchable and legendary.....all U kids remember that.

lil C.A.L.I 09-01-04 06:54 PM

Whoever Hates Tupac Can Lick Deez Nuts All U Bitchez Are Dick Riding Faggots

R.i.p My Nigga 2pac 1971-1996

JaneDoe 09-01-04 09:18 PM

some of ya'll favorite rappers get they style from pac probably. people idolized and worshiped that man along with biggie, and rakim, jay-z, nas, eminem and many more. but biggie and pac probably gave them the most inspiration.

i agree with him being a hypocrite. he rapped about violence and then went around and did it but everyone does that and just gets big headed. caught up in the hype. tryin to keep their fans appealed they'll do anything they think they like.

but like i said people probably got most of they inspiration from him. for some of the songs he did their probably wouldnt be deep, well thought lyrics people think of now

the ghostwriter thing hurt my feelings. what the fuck? just cuz you hate him and you think his lyrics are good doesnt mean he has to be gettin them from someone else. dr. dre stole beats but pac didnt steal lyrics. i think of nice stuff and i dont have people writing my stuff. i dont even like people commenting on them or helping me with them. pac was just nice like that believe or not. were you in the studio with him, sittin at his kitchen table supervising him writing those lyrics.

he could do 3 songs a day cuz he didnt stay on 1 subject. he went into all areas of rap. "brenda's got a baby" "changes" "fuck friends" "ambitionz az a ridah" "i get around" "california love". this is just to name a few

:)

TURBAN 09-01-04 10:09 PM

i'm not going to be a dick rider, but there was alot more to tupac than the thug image, beyond that he was a poet, and he put his emotion into the songs he made, and loved what he was doing, and some how he managed to hit a spot with the public... unlike many of the main stream rappers today, the man really was a intellectual, and used his brain to put together alot of amazing material, listen to other songs than what you have been listen'n to and you will get what i am talking about

darshmatix 09-02-04 12:05 AM

this has to be THE most ignorant thread ever. At no point in the thread originator's rambling is there even a hint of intelligent thinking. i respect everyone's opinions and if you dont like pac thas straight...but the unbearable shit that "mc merk" came up with was ridiculous. Please do us a favor...post your opinions, not your random thoughts because obviously you dont think things through and type them with any care. It's hard enough to go through that and then on top of that you gotta decipher the message you're tryin to convey...

other than the last point, all of your stuff makes no sense. And on top of that, have you done your research on Pac before you posted? Yea he claims all of that stuff but people claim a lot of shit. Just because they aren't everything they claim to be, that doesn't make them a fake. you've probably claimed somethin that you didn't follow up on, but that doesn't make you a fake. And if you had read books about him...whether biographical or autobiograpical, everyone confirms that he did most of the things he claimed, and when he didn't...that's what made him that much more interesting and controversial...that's what made him the greatest black entertainer back in that era. Whether actor, poet, revolutionary, musician, or family man, people were facinated with him and his controversies. PLEASE think and learn about your topic before you post your opinions.

big up to coldsteel...u speak the truth

TeamOne 09-02-04 02:48 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by illuson
cause pac recorded 3 songs a day have anyone of ya ever seen thug angal or resuraction


this was wat i was gonna say............ this man said that everytime he went to the studio he liked to record 3 songs............ ghost writer my ass..... dont ut hink we woulda found it out sumhow???? its been alotta years and reporters are always lookin forthat big ass story even if it kills the thoughts of many hip hop fans....... so they would find that shit out, especially if he was still alive....... if hes still alive ill pay everyone on this site a fuckin 20 each........... and also i contradict myself on songs and shit....... ill write a song about how i like this girl and shit..... and then wen we break up (if i was treated bogus) one of my next songs would be that i hate her........ pretty basic........ i didnt really see wat other people wrote so ill juss post this first and check it out........

La Cosa Nostra 09-02-04 07:06 AM

I just wanted to come in here and say..............I dont agree with any of the points stated in this thread.

Tupac is the reason I got into rap and if he was a fake, I really wouldnt want to know about it.

Nuff said.

selah david 09-02-04 03:19 PM

I think Pac's popularity was a reslut of the energy he gave off. Pac was exciting, and people liked that. I dont think Pac was a thug or the best rapper but when he did his thing on certain songs he did his thing. Pac not being a thug was'nt a bad thing cause it goes to show you that you can be talented and not be involved with what people consider "thug/gangster" like activity. and I dont think it takes away from his street cred at all. So in conclusion I think pac is disrespected when people ride his dick, and I think he's disrespected when people hate on him. he was powerful and every ounce of him was completely human which expalins his often cotradictive statements...

Selah (think about it)
oh yeah, if you wanna find out the meaning behind my signature, read "Mos Intellects Do Not Believe In God" in the Lyricist Lounge

Ice Pick 09-02-04 07:30 PM

Yeah
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdSTEEL
:laugh2:
this is what Im talkin bout...a person that doesnt understand the life that goes on in the streets.
How can you hate some1 you never loved...jus a question?
jay got rosted by nas,an nas got fired up by pac on "the seven day theory"..the truest shit he ever spoke.
so Pac killed those same people ur talkin bout...stupid!!! :nono:

Ice pick...shit aint that same name that actor use's on every kiss skit.What a Homo?




oh i dont know about the street, get the fuck out of here you 15 year old snot nose punk... I am 24 i know more about the street and rap than most of you think............................................. ....




Tupac rapped about takin care of women

keep ya head up

then he went out and raped a chick. i might be mistaken bit u think im pretty sure he did. right after that song came out.... LOOK INTO IT

!Mc Merc! 09-02-04 08:01 PM

i;m gonna post a 20 page exposer why tupac was fake, i'm wtiting it whenever i feel like writing, which is useally never...........

G_$peed 09-02-04 08:31 PM

Dumbfuck man tupac had alot of unfinished songs and eminem is finishin dem and sya that his death was a fake they buried him right so how could it be fake... well i dont kno how they took care of his body but i kno one thing that he is a thug life mutha fucka and a true G ryda bitch... he aint a fake ass mutha fucka or a mutha fuckin pose... eat shit bitch...

!Mc Merc! 09-02-04 08:36 PM

he was burned you idiot and they put his ahses in a river you dumbfucker

G_$peed 09-02-04 08:52 PM

you dumb mutha fucka i asked bitch...

G_$peed 09-02-04 08:53 PM

there you go so how the fuck could he be a phony death mutha fucka...

distilled 09-02-04 08:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by J DOT
summarize this shit...i dont like 2 pac either if thats wut you saying...i aint reading this...sum it up



lol J DOT, every thread i go in, where theres more than 3 lines theres you sayin 'summarize' lol.

Shit tho, that post creator dudes got a point, I doubtthat its true, his frst albums may have not bein gangsta, maybe he wanted to try and be serious firs, then got to his roots after, and became an all around celeb-thug.

I mean I'm not really much of a fan of pac myself, but I still listen to his shit sumtimes, bcos most of it is actually good, the greatest hits album just dissapointed me tho, after that I bought more and found the true Pac, and He is good, but hell, if this guys correct, who really cares, the whole thing is long gone, Pac will have always been there and will always be legendary on the hip hop scene and the entire music industry bcos he made that big an impact to everyone.

distilled 09-02-04 08:54 PM

Oh yeh and Pacs 'new' alum is out later this year, roughly the same time as Em's

!Mc Merc! 09-02-04 09:22 PM

if you actually think of qays pac could be fake, its huge

distilled 09-02-04 09:26 PM

do you even know what you just typed??

TeamOne 09-02-04 11:46 PM

^^^^haha but he definetly didnt have other people writin his shit................ most likely (like most people) he didnt even like people tryin to help him with his lyrics and shit........... i know i dont like that shit really............... and wen u make an album u needa write who wrote the songs in the cd package........... and for the CD im lookin at all i see is "Tupac Shakur" under "written by".......... except for the ones with other people featured on it

CataclyzM-i-C 09-03-04 12:32 AM

nigga ur fuckin out of ur mind...pac was jus VERSITILE...that nigga can rap about whatever he feelin...das how REAL dat nigga was...hate on him all u want but ur fuckin crazy...BIATCH !


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