this sorta bothers me
 

^that kinda pissed me off

all the major labels arent controlled by whites

Roc-A-fella:Damon Dash
Shady records: Dr.Dre
Capitol Records: Ron Benson

don't say a race is controllin hip hop pleaase

we had fights and shit ova dat in school
and ppl got to personal with dat-and startin
callin people "names" an shit-so lets not staart dat

and like it or not a black dude did create hip hop man
i aint even racist cuz alota white rappers i like

but back when hip hop was only black-ppl said it was silly-

but SURPRISE SURPRISE!!! since eminem
came its just so popular now
and ppl was laughed at by havin hip hop style and baggy pants and shit
and i think a thread was made sayin white "prisoners" created that

WHAT THE FUCK?

jus sayin even Eminem remember where rap originated
don't forget that-

too many people claimin whites stated everything

i know whites help how hip hop is today (eminem)
but yaw actin like parents and shit
only claim hiphop when its good-but when it wsa jus us
it was stupid and anybody can do it

jus sayin remember yo roots

what yaw think?

ps: i aint racist wat-so-eva- jus staitin my oppinion

^^ you is one smart bouy you know dat lol

finnaly somebody get it

Whites by no means started hip hop. They did capitalize on it because we allowed them to. All the labels you named are imprints and are distributed by either a white company or by a company who's under the publishing umbrella of someone who is white or not black. Eminem is good but he is not a necessity to hip-hop and I think we could survive just as well if not better without him.And then if you wanna get super technical blacks(african americans) didnt start hip-hop either. It was jamaicans...

I felt the same way when Charlie Pride startin singing country lol.

man,i aint gettin all soft n shit,but i dont see hip-hop as a colour thing,am white,and i love hip hop soo fuckin much no matter wether id be white,black or fuckin purple....id still love it,but yer id say its about even,i dunt think many people got an issue wit colour an shit like tht no more,peeps lookin past tht,thts why i got respect for everyone whos into hiphop in someway,even if i dunt like em,cos i know they gt the same love for it as me.......NO MATTER WOT!anywayz peace!!

^^ i feel you
but there still people who feel one race did everything
jus check my 1st post

and jamaicans aint create rap boy lol

and jamaicans and africans are basically the same race in a diff country

so there black and in a america there african americans lol

4 real hip hop is growing now because we're all in it now-

all i can do is wish color will stop being mentioned "sonofisis"
i still can't believe dude said that shit...

now that he made that coment i'm not
sure if eminem would be respected if he wasnt white

he might wuld've been hated on jus like g-unit....

see now?

african american are people who had ancestorsas slaves, and are left in ghettos, otherwised got out stupids

We have to move on now. Hip-hop is MOBO( Music Of Black Origin) but from the start the aim was to get acceptance because acceptance=U get heard(Da truth) gets heard but now peeps in the game are talking so much shit it's embarrassing. Eminem has extended the fanbase and the reason some blacks are chompin at his white ass is because he's a minority of white rappers who is successful filthy fuckin rich to be exact, this makes him 'special' when more white rappers come like it or not then you will hear people similar to Eminem then it will become like how the 'niggas' are now so many 'niggas' from the same place saying the same thing. There's Bubba Sparxx he ain't as big as Eminem, Eyedea ain't as commercial so this adds meaning to the sayind 'The More Success you have, the more hate you get' or 'Mo' money, mo' problems' I could go on cuz I got more to say but I'll end here.
P.S. Like I say the more Eminem's name occurs, the bigger he gets but a publicity is good publicity, quote me on that.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT A DISTRIBUTION LABLE IS? NONE OF THOSE LABLES THAT YOU NAMED, DISTRIBUTES.. MY QUOTE SAID ALL OF THE DISTRIBUTION LABLES ARE OWNED BY WHITE PEOPLE, I NEVER SAID RECORD LABLES.. UNIVERSAL, COLUMBIA, ETC.. OWNED BY WHITE PEOPLE.. RECORD COMPANYS LIKE AFTERMATH, AND THE ROC MAKE THE MUSIC, COLUMBIA OR UNIVERSAL DISTRIBUTES IT. YOU MAKE IT, THE WHITE MAN DECIDES IF HE WANTS IT ON THE STREETS OR NOT.. PLZ DON'T QUOTE ME, WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HELL I SAID..

AND WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW PROLLY, IS THAT I'M BLACK!!! THAT WASN'T RACIST, I WAS TELLIN THE TRUTH. REALLY, THAT'S WHY HIP HOP IS FUCKED UP NOW, BECAUSE IT'S CONTROLLED BY OUTSIDE SOURCES, NOT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE WHITE, BUT THE FACT THAT THEY THEMSELVES AREN'T IN THE CULTURE, IT'S ALL BUSINESS MY MAIN MAN..

NO ACTUALLY, IF YOU WANNA GET MORE TECHNICAL THAN THAT, AFRICA STARTED HIP HOP.. FROM THE DRUM BASE CLEFS IN WEST AFRICA, RHYTHM AND DANCE. BLACK AMERICANS JUST MADE IT INTO A CULTURE AND ADDED THE 5 ELEMENTS..

THE THREAD WAS MADE FOR NO REASON THO, JUST COZ HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT A DISTRIBUTION LABLE WAS, AND MADE A BIG DEAL OUT OF WHAT I SAID COZ HE TOOK IT WRONG..

This aint an argument.. Black people started hip hop, but its been intergrated into western culture. There are white rappers and there are black rappers.. There isnt one race that owns hip hop, western culture owns hip hop..

And Im talking to the first guy, not sonofisis, cuz I get his point and its got nothing to do with what proverse is talking about. I agree, its fucked up how people that have no idea about whats good and bad in hip hop culture get to decide what sells and what doesent. But the simple fact is, thats life.. The music industry is full of fake cunts that will act like they know whats good on the street, then fuck off back to their mansions in beverly hills and laugh about how they talked to some street kids today..

And whats worse, is that there is no way of changing that.. Unless you are signed to lables like aftermath etc, you will have to comply with what these pop generating media whores want..

Thats why a lot of rappers say..Fuck big time, keep it underground..

Okay, we've established that black people created Hip-Hop. Then there are pioneers.

That Wasn't Even Supposed To Be The Point. That's A Given, If You Don't Know That Black People Started It, And Did It Best, You're Stupid.. But, All I Said Was That, Distribution Companies Are Prodominantly White Owned Corporations.. Proverse Made It Into A Racial Thing, Not Me, I Am Black..

Young fo real! i feel you on this i mean there isn't just black on white and white on black anymo! Asians! and almost any race is in on the rapgame! so you can't really hate on a dude cuz a what color his skin, hate on him if he can't spit and he still frontin like he hard! That's what I don't agree on! There's mad people where i'm livin currently that think they can spit and to tell them the honest truth they have no qualifacations in rapping! Matter of fact, i know this kid name dustin he swears to god on his life he's better rappin than any rapper out there and the kid sucks! I told him this to his face! "Dustin YOU SUCK! SERIOUSLY" If you can't rap and you front like you can even tho people are tellin you tha truth don't continue to front hard cuz you'll get laughed at! This kid i know is learning this the hard way!

ah,i get it now,sonofisis wasnt actually making a colour thing out of it i dont think,i feel ya now sononfisis.....wot hes sayin is tht the people at the very top,who arent even into the hip hop music tht distribute it all,dont even listen to rap,are really in control of it all,cos they are above all these other hip-hop labels like aftermath and rocafella,so they just put out whats gona make them money eg..all this commercial shit tht shows no skillz wot so ever....so hes not sayin its controlled by white people...but its controlled by people who dont even know the rap game....or dont even know wot makes a good rapper....or wot makes a good verse....but we dont see these people.....but they just rakin in all the big money tht hip-hop makes but arent even into hip-hop.i feel ya homie.if thts wot ya meant.

thank you thugzy, you understood what i said perfectly..

Rap is color blind yo... its influenced by everyone... from all places of the world.. from teh orient to africa to europe everywhere

^^ o my bad sono mayn

and ppl is gettin it now

rap is color blind-and its here to enjoy
and not and exclusive club or sum shit lol

thats why most of the site is white

or latino or british
cuz rap enjoyed all ova

now all i gotta do is get rid of all pop and rock
and the world will be just find...no kids killin theyself lol

ha i get it now you can close this now

exactly, i didn't mean any harm, i am black, and i know hip hops roots..
I even got mad when i read this bunk ass web site, and it said this:

"We Teach The Following Latin Dance: Salsa, Hip Hop, etc..

I was Out Raged because any real hip hoper knows that it came directly from west africa, passed on to jamacia, and then passed on to evolve under african american contact. and then other minorities, then finally white people joined the culture. it's a deep rooted history, but all i was saying is that it's fucked up now.. dre, damon dash, and etc get their money, but they still answer to distribution, and even if they wanted to, they can't just put out what they want, it has to fit public criteria.. it just so happens that white people own most big distributing lables, that's jus the reality, nothing racially implied at all.. i see where you got mixed up with what i said tho, i appologize too for not understanding how you felt after reading my claim, because i should of explained it more from jump..

I would like to think of myself as a lot more than that..

im a white dude...and when i first started rappin...it was still a little weard for a white dude to have an urban hip-hop persona...but now it aint that weard...but theres still alot a hate on us...not by black people...(who did invent hip-hop by the way)...but by all these white punk-rock pussies...who always hate just because we're different and like rap instead of rock...and rock music was invented by black people too...if it werent for black people...white dudes would still be rockin to swing music and country...

^^^^^ True ........... im white but i agree that white people arent taking ova this .......... i think just because eminem is there people think that white folks are taking ova but there is no way .......... i probably dont make anysense of what im saying but oh well ......... its always been black people and always will be black people ......... i mean im white and i only hang around wit black people and they dont hate on me ..........

Thats some ignorent ass shit to say man,I like system of a down and ac/dc and some shit like that...most rock sucks but,some of it's good for real,even if it's not,like..country,ppl who enjoy it should still be aloud to do it...just quietly...in their house.....with the windows shut......lol nah for tho,you should be more openminded,even some clasical is good.

i feel this shit..but who cares black white we all in the game now..its whats uniting us.....there white people at the top and theres black people at the top ..i say stop labeling "black" "white"and just be thankfull theres people like us at the top..peole who came from where we are..people who understand what we are about..

pz