Nas = Owned To Fuck
 

Originally Posted On Allhiphop.com



The views expressed inside this editorial aren’t necessarily the views of AllHipHop.com or its employees.


Ants At Nas' Coon Picnic
Morris W. O'Kelly



Very recently, I asked the question as to what is a “sell-out” in today’s world. The premise of the article was to find a common ground as to the moral center of the African-American ideology and also expose the historical double-standard of how the term ‘sell-out’ has been applied over generations. In the end, I surmised that often times our castigation of fellow African-Americans for supposedly not being ‘Black enough’ was usually misguided…if not all-out wrong.

Case in point…

There has been much discussion about the song, "These Are Our Heroes (Coon Picnic)” by rapper Nas.

You can imagine where this is going.

I waited to see how the Hip-Hop community would address it first. Would this record be embraced, disregarded or met with a response somewhere in between? Would Nas be categorized as a ‘conscious MC,’ who ‘said what needed to be said’ or would he be found ‘out of turn’ for his remarks?

Nas is a brilliant lyricist, without qualification. He is an exceptionally talented and passionate writer with a sincere emotional bond with his people. In short, there are few negatives that you can say about Nas in relation to his contributions to Hip-Hop. (Notice I used the word ‘few,’ not zero).

I’m here to also tell you…NAS is incredibly way off base with his recent audio monologue on who supposedly is and is not a ‘coon.’

How dare he…

No, he’s in way over his head and way out of his league. That, or just trying to sell records like the “pickaninnies” as he termed them in this song. Either way, I have a big problem with Nas trying to “enlighten” the masses on who is or is not ‘Black enough.’ Nas, has no business trying to persuade others as who he thinks is more or less in alignment with the idea of a ‘real’ African-American.

Of course I’m going to break it down why.

Granted, this is a free country in terms of expression and yes, everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. But neither of the aforementioned in any way validates or justifies the level of hypocrisy and ill-informed rhetoric that Nas spits on this occasion.

For far too long, our young people have been too easily swayed tend to think that simply because it’s on our ‘favorite rapper’s mind’ it’s somehow relevant or even more incredibly, factual.

Sorry, but that’s just not the case. Let’s took a closer look at what Nas has to say…

“Let's hear it,
one for the coons on UPN 9 and WB
Who "yes Massa" on TV
What ever happened to Weezy?
The Redd Foxxes?
Never got Emmys but were real to me”

(sigh)

See, that’s the first problem I have with this record. If you are going to ‘lecture’ the masses, the first prerequisite is to be factually correct.

‘Weezy,’ Isabel Sanford won an Emmy in 1981.

He mentioned ‘The Redd Foxxes,’ i.e. Black comedians of that era. Redd Foxx contemporary, Flip Wilson won 2 Emmys in 1970 for ‘The Flip Wilson Show’ but was also highly criticized for the supposed renewing of black stereotypes in the variety show. Already, Nas’ viewpoint is pretty shaky and flawed from the beginning. Not only were the ‘real’ African-Americans (as he put it) actually winning Emmys, they were also receiving considerable flack for the roles in which they won them.

Know thy history…

I understand what point he is trying to make. The many ‘Black’ shows on UPN and WB networks today seem more like minstrel shows than television shows. There’s some merit to that and must be acknowledged.

At the same time, to ridicule the shows on television today, yet have NOTHING to say in reference to the buffoonery in Hip-Hop music and videos is hypocrisy beyond comprehension. To criticize shows that DON’T refer to us as –ggas and/or –tches, yet not even mention his own albums past and present that DO, seriously undercuts the strength of his argument.

And just FYI, the “Meth & Red Show” (FOX) was far worse than anything EVER on UPN and WB, put together. Nas’ selective amnesia must also be noted here. Turning a blind eye to everything reprehensible in Hip-Hop yet speaking out on the ‘ills’ of the hurtful imagery in media is borderline laughable.

Moving right along…

Nas spends the whole first verse of the song abusing Kobe Bryant. I can’t even begin to reprint the lyrics in all of their vulgarity here, but here’s a sample…

“From OJ to Kobe or let's call him Toby
First he played his life cool
just like Michael
Now he rock ice too just like I do
Yo, you can't do better than that?
The hotel clerk who adjusts the bathroom mat?
Now you lose sponsorships that you thought had your back
Yeah you beat the rap jiggaboo fake -gga you”

For everything I dislike about Kobe Bryant, I would never liken him to a sell-out, a jiggaboo or worst of all to an actual slave. But, like I said, everyone is still entitled to their own opinion, even when it’s absolutely ridiculous; as it is in this case.

I would respond to Nas that anyone who willingly drops out of school in the 8th grade (such as he did) and ‘grows up’ to call our women –tches and hoes in his ‘job’ (such as he does) probably shouldn’t be pointing the finger at anyone in regards to uplifting or embarrassing African-Americans.

And THAT’S real…

But I digress...

“Tavis Smiley, Michael Eric Dyson, Stokely Carmichael
let's try to be like them
Nicky Giovanni poetical Black female
Jim Brown to the people who sing well from Fela
to Miriam Makeba
The mirror says you are the next American leader”

I really don’t have any problem with anything Nas says here except the inherent hypocrisy contained therein. All mentioned here are great role models, but none of them would endorse calling each other –ggas and our women –tches. So what’s the point of doing roll call of great African-American role models if what you do is in direct contradiction to what they espouse? If they’re good enough for us to ‘be like them,’ then why hasn’t he even followed his own advice?

Which is it, Nasir Jones? Is Nicky Giovanni a “poetical Black female” or is she another “b***h?” It seems you’ve chosen name-dropping here instead of dropping knowledge.

Moving right along…

If that wasn’t enough to make me shake my head in confusion, Nas ends with some backhanded disses at the feet of golfer Tiger Woods and actors Cuba Gooding Jr. and Taye Diggs.

“Yeah I wanna give a special shout out to the the crew doing they thing out there repping us hard.

”Big up to Tiger Woods. Yeah you don't stop. Big up to Cuba Gooding Jr. You know...yeah you know. Taye Diggs...what up my -gga? Yeah ha ha. And you don't quit and you don't quit and you don't stop and you don't quit.”

I get it Nasir…I get the joke. The common thread here is that all three have White wives. The underlying sentiment being expressed is that supposedly these men aren’t ‘Black enough’…for Nas that is.

Once again Nas…know thy history. Jim Brown who Nas said earlier “let’s try to be like them” had more White women that any of the three put together. And if you knew anything about the Black Panther Party, you’d know that they were NOTORIOUS for their ‘trysts’ with white women. Ahem, Stokely Carmichael, another person on Nas’ “acceptable Negro list” was a former Black Panther Party leader…fyi.

Nas, you’re confusing the hell out of me now. What exactly are you trying to say here? Are you saying that the best golfer in the world, an Academy Award winner and another exceptional African-American actor are less “real” or more “coon-like” because they married White women? These people aren’t role models worthy of emulation?

Remember, YOU asked the question…

“What ever happened to Weezy?
The Redd Foxxes?
Never got Emmys but were real to me”

Another contemporary of Redd Foxx was Richard Pryor. He was another one of those ‘Black comedians’ who DID win an Emmy in 1974. He also married a white woman. In fact, he married a few White women. Was Richard Pryor less ‘real’ to you Nasir than Redd Foxx? Was Richard Pryor a ‘jigaboo’ or slave-like, as you termed Kobe Bryant to be? I’m beginning to think you’re not even sure what point you’re trying to make.

Again Mr. Jones, know thy history.

Similar insults were hurled at rappers like MC Hammer and Young MC in the early 90’s for their supposed catering to the ‘crossover audience.’ It’s only because of rappers like these that there is even a Grammy awards category for rap music today. It’s only because of rappers like these that 70% of all rap music, (including yours) is purchased by non-African-Americans.

Parallel:

Nike originally signed Tiger Woods to a $40 million endorsement deal right as he turned pro, simply on prospective marketing value and potential (i.e. what he ‘could’ mean to the sport). It was unprecedented at the time. Yet, because of Tiger Woods’ subsequent success it opened the door for all types of athletes (Black athletes) to gain larger deals in advance of their careers. LeBron James doesn’t sign a $90 million Nike deal straight out of high school if Tiger Woods fails miserably in the years prior. I won’t even mention the fact that Tiger Woods also went to college.

Mr. Jones, it’s probably out of turn to smack around the greatest golfer in the game today who went to college and revolutionized all of sports marketing simply because he’s not ‘Black enough’ to meet your 8th grade education’s approval.

It’s out of turn to question another’s ‘blackness’ because of the white woman he’s married, yet you yourself have done virtually nothing to uplift your own African-American sisters. Cynically I ask the question…who would want to marry a ‘-tch’ (as you refer to them) in the first place? Why NOT a white woman then?

It’s out of turn to liken one of the best basketball players in the game to a slave while much of Hip-Hop today programs our youth to chase meaningless endeavors like cars, jewelry and…dare I say, illiteracy. In fact, the difference is, ‘slaves’ at least held education in high esteem…even though it was denied to them. You specifically and Hip-Hop historically have not. For every record that says get an education, I can find 80 that say get an Escalade or get some Hennessy instead.

Slave mentality?

Most importantly, it’s out of turn to purport to be ‘real’ in terms of being an African-American and the only thing notable on your ‘resume’ has to do with misogyny and lyrical prowess.

Yes, Nasir Jones is an incredible and brilliant lyricist. But he’s way out of turn, out of his league and in over his head in trying to lecture the rest of us on who is or is not ‘Black enough.’ Such divisiveness only contributes to the problems of African-Americans, not helping to solve them.

Know thy history.

And that too is real…

Morris W. O'Kelly is a freelance entertainment writer who writes content for entertainment personality websites and national media. You can always reach him at: dark.gable@sbcglobal.net. This editorial originally appeared on EURweb.com.






The views expressed inside this editorial aren’t necessarily the views of AllHipHop.com or its employees.

I was like whoa Nas got owned big time

HA HA, He owned that nigga. Yeah thats real shit, how is he gunna say who is and who isn't black? Fuck outta here.

i thought it was funny the emmys thing but all the people he mentioned won emmy's LMAO

Mr. Jones, it’s probably out of turn to smack around the greatest golfer in the game today who went to college and revolutionized all of sports marketing simply because he’s not ‘Black enough’ to meet your 8th grade education’s approval.

lmao.. damn..

i dunno but i like this kid..^^top shit bro.!!!

Hahaha...yup, completely owned...funny shit...

I like nas but he got but raped but this guy.....That statement killed him....

Stay strong Nas...

Did i really just read that whole thing... Ugh.

Haha....
Dropped out of the 8th grade.
What a dork

I said Nas owned to fuck...comment

lol I like that song, but that's some funny shit. He got owned, yo.

Yeah Nas got owned but he dosen't hide who he is, you don't know the
reasons why he droped out of school in the first place so don't judge.

Also on the whole album this must be the weakest track but the person
dosen't mention the other great tracks on it.

Yeah he has no right saying who's black and who's not but at the end
of the track the question is asked what have you given back to the
hood?

I agree with some things but this person who wrote this should write
the pro's & con's of all the other tracks or maybe write how Jay-z
always bites pac's rhymes...

Lol I'm done Mad man how did xmas go

1~

Christmas was dope i got all i wanted (I Want It All) lol ohyea Freeview is dope too got GTA Pro Evo 4 everything i wanted you?

Yeah man got loads of shit, I wanted a lap top battery but didn't get one lol.
PRO EVO 4 is well dope man my mate paid a fiver for someone to update his
card so all the kits are right and all the players are at the right teams.

I think that was on EBAY or some thing lol.

word i got all the English teams names right and i completed 1 season already on the 2nd now jus gettin the time to play GTA = amazing

here comes the usual RV freeposts about complete and utter bullshit.

Getting back on topic:

Nas stated clearly that there's a difference between a "bicth" and a "woman". Just like Chris Rock stated there's a difference between Niggers and blacks. This completely crumbles O'Kelly's argument.

Pertaining to Nas's "8th grade education" as he reffers to it - we all know that people can and have educated themselves beyond school - not to mention wisdom and assessment of character. So because nas left the shool system in 8th grade means he's incapable of judging one's character? That's a baseless argument.



Issabelle stanford did win in 1981 - nas definitely incorrectly quoted that. But the refference to Redd? The point still stands. Redd Foxx never won an emy. Red was 'notoriously black' - but all of Mr. O'Kelly's counterpoints are all individuals who were inspired by Redd's style - NOT Redd himself. As a matter of fact, all of Mr O'Kelly's refferences of "stand up black role models" are all blacks who've married white women. He's not factually arguing nas's points stating that nas is contraditing himself. In fact it's Mr. O'Kelly that's contradicting his own self. If he wanted to make the point - he'd state black celebreties that married black and still sold out in alternate ways. Flip Wilson?? That monkey was inches away from black-face and 'yes massa'.

Mr. O'Kelly states that nas isn't neccessarily "real" jus because he raps about women and his own skill. It would seem that this is trying to misdirect and dillute the point. Nas is stating that "selling out" involves compromising ones self - and he claims to haven't have done that. So exactly whis Mr. Kelly getting at? You knew what nas was saying - I doubt someone as educated as he portrays himself to be would make such an obvious mistake about the message to the song he was criticizing.

Nas is owned? I highly doubt it.

Good point but why are you still posting here... Thought you hated it

^why would you think I don't? Where else would I find a mass of the mentally dead all going "duuuuhhh...yeah - he was owned!! look at all those big words - he HAD to got owned! I'm gonna go play with my crayons now". You guys swallow what ever anyone tells you as long as it has the word "owned", "herb" or "merk" in it.

Led - mark my words; The day the board battle is over, my reasons to post here (other than to piss down CALI's shirt since he's gonna be bitching about it the whole way) would be none. The heads I respect here I keep in contact with via AIM and I feel their struggle in this sea of ignrance you call a rap board.

yea some of this was bullshit........when he talks about tiger woods and all them.....hes not saying it because they have white wives......

that nigga is ignorant,
He talked about Tiger woods because he cleary stated
he's "asian and nothing more" on T.V.

sure get on Nas,you noticed everyone with O' in there name
talks about rappers? like O' Reily still gets on Luda..I'm pissed like a bitch

Dopeness Just What I Been Saying But N The Words Of Dip Set

'dont Make Me Smack That Kufi Off Ya Head'

Word

i hate bob, nas surpassed any dropouts level of intelagance,
look where he is at

EXACTLY,when people use big words,they say owned
like I'm gonna call somebody gay using big words

"your homo-sexuality,exceeds the potential of even the most
female adapted male ever to grase the presense of the earth"

oh oh oh owned!!!

this guys a dumbass...nas is saying his opinion, if you dont like it then fuck off and listen to something else so many people are fucking uptight over stupid shit

theres kkk doing shit against black people just because their black
theres the government lying over 90% of the shit they say
half of the world which is about 1.4 billion people earns less then 2 dollars a day...

and people go over the top for this shit? shut the fuck up and go to sleep...

I've never really been a Jay-Z person, but he uses lines from big and pac as a tribute to them. Not biting. Call it biting if you want, but he does know what he's doing.

^^ LMMFAO...a more truthful stement couldn't have been said

you are a fuckin Nas dickrider.
eat a cock and overdose on posionus cum.

why the fuck is he saying it then?
because those 3 people that Nas named DID have white wives.

Yes, Nas WAS OWNED.
For making a song, saying who is black and who is not.
What is "black"? exactly
you can be black, but raised in the ghetto. thats what America think the typical black person should be like.
but, what if you're raised in the suburbs
do you still act like you were raised in the ghetto?
no, you act like you raised in the suburbs
that dont make you any less black, because the color of your skin shouldnt affect what you do.'
if we all TRULY wanted to act black, then we should all live in tribes, carry baskets on our heads and go to war with other tribes for 100's of years at a time like the black people are doing RIGHT NOW in Africa.
and I think that makes you OWNED!

yo whut da fukk is up with dis owned shit....shut da fukk up with dat shit datz madd homo..but aneway nas song these r our hero's was hott n da shit is true kobe,cuba goodin,taye diggs dem niggaz is hollywood faggets now marryin white bitches i guess cuzz they aint feelin our sistahs no more he might of had a few facts wrong in his song but they dont do nothin 4 da hood's they cum from....n da dude dat wrote dat long ass nas story lol got his shit fukked up nas aint drop out in no 8th grade...shit if i was nas i would make a record dissin dat nigga lol....and ppl of rv da "owned" shit is trash stop sayin it

^ so's numbers in names

how are they "hollywood faggets" for marrying white women dumbass?

if they would have married white women from the ghetto, would your opinion have changed?
what if they married black stuck up women from the suburbs?
is that a fuckin difference?
color means shit, its where you from that counts.
besides, its not a sin to marry outside of your race.
what if they married mexican or puerto rican women
would that have been different?
I guess so, cos mexicans and puerto ricans are like black folks eh???
STFU!
All you Nas dickriders, just admit, your fuckin rap idol was an idiot for making this song.
people make mistakes, dont ride his dick off.

^so is england rappers...lmaoo@men ownin other men

Jus like ya American Club Bangers???...psst...lmao @ men owning boys :thumbup:

Oh jus because you're American don't make you automatically dope @ rap...a lot more americans = a lot more wacker emcees...stuff a burger in ya gob and keep talkin garbage

lol yo shut up u big lip ass hole...y we gotta be dick rider's cuzz we like a persona music?? u still dumb son....and u dont even know whut u talkin about nas song speaks da fukkin truth dos dudes he mentioned think they 2 good 4 black women since they made it famous..u color dont matter but its still of ppl out there dat dont like ppl cuzz of there race i wonder if all da muthafukkaz in dis post who r emeniem fans was postin story's when he dissed black ppl

Since when did marrying white women become a kick in the teeth to black women?...Eminem was wrong with what he done...but OLD subject done & dusted buried under hatchet locked up and key thrown away played subject move on...

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did Tiger Woods ever say black women weren't good enough for him?...NO he jus met who he sees as the right person for him...fuck skin colour...thats a SHALLOW excuse

u rite it dont im nice cuzz i made myself dat way...all of da england mc's=trash......now close ya mouth n go own a man lmaoooo

Lol you listen to too much commercial shit jump off

alrite were talkin about y nas made dat song rite? nuff said dos dudes r sellouts not just bcuzz they got white bitches...i dont have nothin against dem or anything just me personally i neva fukked with a white girl....but back 2 nas song i think there's nothin wrong with it maybe he fukked up couple facts in it...but if u dudes would listen 2 da song its not tellin whut is bein black he just pointin out a couple faggets dat r sellouts nuff said shit i might even make a song about it now