RapVerse.com Community

RapVerse.com Community (http://community.rapverse.com/index.php)
-   Hip-Hop Talk Archives (http://community.rapverse.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3)
-   -   Why do people like Eminem (http://community.rapverse.com/showthread.php?t=174799)

~Sonofisis~ 01-30-05 01:57 PM

Why do people like Eminem
 
I actually want to know how many real hiphopper like Eminem, and how many Black people like him.. especially after he was exposed for being racist/sexist towards Black women..

Besides this point, this is my opinion.. when i was 14, this is when i first started listening to shady, i'm 20 now.. at first i liked him, he had tight rhymes, and the shit he said was just unbelievable and funny to me, he was really entertaining.. but as i started getting older and really appreciating the value of lyrics, and when i started experiencing a hard knock life, or when it started to affect me, i realized that Eminem didn't comfort me.. his rhymes weren't directed towards people like me.. i wasn't white, i didn't live in a trailor park, i didn't sniff glue, i didn't do hard drugs, and i didn't hate my mom.. I found i lot more comfort in 2Pac..

I LOVE MY MOM no matter what, as was expressed in "Dear Mama"..
I lived a thug life
I lost people
My family was poor at a point in our lives
I felt hopeless
I loved old school rap
I love black women

everything Pac said was like the opposite of Eminem, Pac being the greatest Musician in Hip Hop of All time (By Far).. would only logically make Eminem the wackest, unless you're a punk rocker.. the type of shit he talks about, is what maryln manson, or some rock band talks about.

every since the 70's, hip hop has been a voice for a hard knock culture, mainly aimed at Blacks and Latino's.. Eminem comes on the scene and sells more than 15 Million records to an 85% - 95% white audience.. it's like Elvis, people were amazed that Elvis could do black music because he was white, so they made a big deal about it, even though he was mediocre..

I just wanna know what peeps think, and don't get mad, i realize that Eminem is a touchy subject to a lot of white fans, as 2pac is to blacks..

~Sonofisis~ 01-30-05 01:58 PM

And Don't Say That This Is Too Long To Read, If It Is, Then Don't Respond You Illiterate Motha Fucka!

Speats 01-30-05 02:04 PM

look,eminem has bring something that i never heard before,the way he raps and all,the way he delivers his emotion his awsome,im a number one eminem fan,i have over 200 songs from him,like 15 posters and all...and even if Encore wasint that good i still apreciate him...its just that you dont like him,its like me,i dont reallt listen to some pac,you cant change the way of living

Ike 01-30-05 02:05 PM

omg i laughed when i read the name of this thread......people like eminem because he is a dope lyricist....not because he is white....if he was black....i would still listen to him....even though this last album he put out was by far the worst as far as lyrics go.....he is still tight....he is one of the best ever to do it.......lol @ you sayin he is logically the wackest.....some people go through different shit....just because things he sais are not just like 2pac....doesnt mean he isnt good......that was by far the most rediculous statement ever made on rv...........lol @ eminem logically being the wackest ever haha

Big City 01-30-05 02:06 PM

hhahaha Eminem even admitted that he was a robbin mofo lol in that Without me song
he was he was like elvis stealin black music to make himself wealthy. but idk he has sort of lost his gimmick since i first started listenin to him. when he first came out his lyrics were just so abrasive n in ur face u had to listen to him. plus he was funny n had shock value. but now its like u can only hate on ur mom and trailor parks so much. i mean i dont hat eon him for beatin the system. i really dont care nemore about what he has to say tho. ......1.....

Compose 01-30-05 02:08 PM

pac is...and will be the greatest person to ever grace a mic...end of story with that

as for eminem
i listen to anything up to eminem show...basically the shit thats funny...because you cant be sad all the time...eminem is there to make you laugh like fuck with his punches and lines so i respect him definately for that

but pac will always be the best to me because of the things you said...i understood mad shit and it made me change my view on the world and made me try and make a change in the community and the rest of the world...pac is the realest and i hope i get like him someday to a point where everyone respects you thats just eternal...


peace

Big City 01-30-05 02:08 PM

his lyrics and delivery are just so crazy u cant doubt his skills, but hey he's ANTI-BUSH so thats always a plus.hahaha

~Sonofisis~ 01-30-05 02:17 PM

^, yea, i feel and respect everyones opinion on it, thanx for responding.. And IKE, i said that he says the exact opposite of what a legendary rapper says, so my logic is that he's whack because he says nothing at all that i feel, and pac says everything that I feel.. Like thewhackestMC just said, Em used to be funny, but he's waterd down now cuz..

He's dope with the word play, but true legends are consstent until they die, Pac never put out a whack album, EVER!!

OH, AND ikE, YOU SAID THAT YOU NEVER really listened to Pac, but you listen to Eminem.. that tells me that your opinion is worthless because you just started listening to Hip Hop, and whoever never got into Pac doesn't belong in Hip Hop's culture anyway, that's what Pac stood for, he never ever went PoP

Ike 01-30-05 02:21 PM

lol i never said i didnt listen to pac.....i listen to him all the time...he is 100 times better than eminem......learn how to read peoples names faggot....damian is the one who said he never listened to pac.....so know what the fuck your talking about before popping off at your faggot ass dick sucking mouth you homo......just because eminem lived a different life than pac.....doesnt mean he is wack........talib kweli live a different life....is he wack.????mos def? and of the greats.....nobody ever lives the same life.......so know what the fuck your saying before sounding foolish

Big City 01-30-05 02:22 PM

actually, Pac kind of starte out in pop ^^^^sonofisis. cuz he used ot b a groupie n shit . n we was wit that digital underground group n there were pretty pop rappers. plus he had that song " i get around" that was pretty pop too. but i mean pac was just so diverse like that he would come wit somethin like that....n then have somethhin like "brenda's got a baby"

~Sonofisis~ 01-30-05 02:29 PM

^ you must be a child, no offense.. But digital underground was as it says in its name, "Underground", if you're old enough to remember, they were never mainstream or pop.. they made hits like I get Around, but they never made club bangers and went mainstream, you must be young..

Ike 01-30-05 02:30 PM

lol @ sonofisis acting like he didnt read my post.........he knows he was owned

~Sonofisis~ 01-30-05 02:31 PM

Plus, "I get Around Around" was never on MTV, thats what Pop is, Poular music, he never sold out, what the hell are you talking about?

~Sonofisis~ 01-30-05 02:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ike
lol @ sonofisis acting like he didnt read my post.........he knows he was owned


you're misguided and confused, u must be white or something, i won't respond to u, you're childish..

Kawn Flixx 01-30-05 02:48 PM

Okay people gotta get off pac's dick seriously.
He's a legendary MC,but claiming nobody will ever pass him up.
Seems like you DON'T want people to pass him up.
and Eminem said racist shit.People seem to say "oh he was young boo boo"
but when Jay-z made the black album,he caught heat for being racist WTF?
The beatles made the white album and didn't catch any media at all.
Although Em's a great lyrisist,he's actually Over and Underated.
With Eminem being basically the only Rapper to be a regular on MTV
due to him being white oviously.But he's never on BET's countdown anymore.
but it seems bogus and justified at the same time that no other rappers
except those under shady appear on MTV...so people gotta face
that most people buy Cd's of who relate to Them...so people may not admit this..but 90% of the reason Em's gettin sales is cause he's white...its not racist reallyjust an relation thing.He's white there white..they relate to a high point.Seriously I'm a fan of Em's.Cept for ebing racist.
But honestly The reason I never Sig him,is cause he's white.
Not being racist just he doesn't releate to me.
Nas relates to me,he's my favorite. Period.

~Sonofisis~ 01-30-05 02:53 PM

I won't even read that, Pac will always be the best, if u disagree, fuck yo mama..

Kawn Flixx 01-30-05 02:54 PM

if you read it you dumb fuck you would see I sided with you.
You're a fuckin Idiot now sonic WTF?

~Sonofisis~ 01-30-05 02:55 PM

I'm the next best thing, if I ever make it, my career will be dedicate to Tupac and his mom.. i'll be the brain that was Sparked for change as Tupac said in the Resurrection documentary, Eminem is killing Hip Hop..

Nas and Pac are the two greatest, Nas being a close second..

~Sonofisis~ 01-30-05 02:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indeph
if you read it you dumb fuck you would see I sided with you.
You're a fuckin Idiot now sonic WTF?



I'm sorry, but you told me to get off of Pac's dick, that was childish to me, so i didn't read it..

~Sonofisis~ 01-30-05 02:59 PM

And what do u mean Now? U know me? Are u an Alias, i don't remember u..

Kawn Flixx 01-30-05 03:00 PM

yeah I was proverse you beat me a long while back.

~Sonofisis~ 01-30-05 03:02 PM

Oh, well i was only responding to u saying that I was On Pac's Dick, which was offensive to me.. My Bad, but i read what you wrote and do agree with everything else, except for me being on Pac's dick, i just love the nigga, he was the realist ever, and it's hard for me to phathom anyone being any realer then that.. The Eminem nonsense is killin me inside.

Kawn Flixx 01-30-05 03:12 PM

Yeah I feel you,I was only talking to niggas who say pac
cause everyone else says it.I feel the same bout Nas,but I wanna pass him up.
That's my goal.

~Sonofisis~ 01-30-05 03:17 PM

Oh yea, that's how everyone should think..

GBless 01-30-05 04:09 PM

rediculous statement ever made on rv...........lol @ eminem logically being the wackest ever haha
__________________
Posted by Ike

werd bro..just cause he dont rap about bein a thug and shit doesnt make him the wackest..he is da wackest??why???cause he dont rap about bein gangsta????cause he dont rap about 24's???cause he dont rap about thug life?????cause u dont like him???...this shit is stupid....Pac was great no doubt but I like Eminem better..and dats what I think...and Im not white and Cuban and I know I lot of Latinos and blacks dat feel da same way so dont even bother to tell me dat I like Em cause Im white...cause dats not the case...

KOOL COL-B 01-30-05 04:20 PM

i like Eminem, but it dont got shit 2 do wif hiz race, tha 1st time i heard Eminem i didnt even know he wuz white. on tha slim shady lp and ep and tha marshall mathers lp he's crazy wif tha lyricism. but he's wack now. n i dont relate 2 wut Em sez, but i dont listen 2 music cuz i relate 2 it, like, if i related 2 a country song, i wouldnt even think bout listenin 2 that garbage. but unfortunatley, i think it iz true that Em iz so big cuz he's white. but its not hiz fault, its tha medias. i would put Em in my top 5 rappers, becuz i like hiz songs (1st couple of album, not last 2) and dont say its cuz im white, cuz im hispanic. and imo, Eazy-E iz tha best rapper ever, werd

High-Dro 01-30-05 05:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ike
omg i laughed when i read the name of this thread......people like eminem because he is a dope lyricist....not because he is white....if he was black....i would still listen to him....even though this last album he put out was by far the worst as far as lyrics go.....he is still tight....he is one of the best ever to do it.......lol @ you sayin he is logically the wackest.....some people go through different shit....just because things he sais are not just like 2pac....doesnt mean he isnt good......that was by far the most rediculous statement ever made on rv...........lol @ eminem logically being the wackest ever haha



exactly whut i was thinkin....ppl r always jus gonna have different opinions because we all have different minds, different lives, and different situations....but homie sayin he is the wackest ever is a pretty stupid statement...ppl jus like different shit

High-Dro 01-30-05 05:55 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sonofisis~
I'm the next best thing, if I ever make it, my career will be dedicate to Tupac and his mom...


now that was a stupid statement, y would u dedicate ur career to sumone you've never met (assuming), i can see if u and him were homies but god damn....i know it's thrown out there a lot and i'll be the firsy one to tel you taht in most cases it's usually stupid and incorrect...but this guy is clearly a dickrider

Ike 01-30-05 10:30 PM

sonofisis.......u entered in the king of rv text tourney 2? because i would love to request a battle with you in the first round.......just because of the wackness reflecting off yourself in some of the statements you made in this thread....shit is funny

Nynth Degree 01-30-05 10:48 PM

Sonofisis is dope, bring back Sonic record :)

DoContinue 01-30-05 11:25 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ike
sonofisis.......u entered in the king of rv text tourney 2? because i would love to request a battle with you in the first round.......just because of the wackness reflecting off yourself in some of the statements you made in this thread....shit is funny

thats funny, because you'd be throwing away ur whole shot at the title facing him first round

High-Dro 01-31-05 12:49 AM

hahah..that sig is fuckin dope

Status 01-31-05 02:07 AM

mm was nice but now he is wack..............nuff said...close this thread...

Terumoto 01-31-05 02:09 AM

Thats what I was thinkin... Fuck that sig is TIGHHHT... 9th degree owns @ paint...

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sonofisis~
every since the 70's, hip hop has been a voice for a hard knock culture, mainly aimed at Blacks and Latino's..


Nah you're hella wrong... That comment is more mainstream than 50 cent... "hard knock aimed at blacks and latinos.." .. NO... this culture is AGAINST violence... and racism... hip hop promotes peace. Why do you think we battle using the elements instead of fighting? If someone is pissing you off you battle him, emceeing, dancing, on the tables... whatever... Some of the realest hip hop heads in the world are not only blacks and latinos... Korea's expression crew won the battle of the year in 2003.. Eminem>many black emcees... Some of the most famous graff artists in the world are white... But you wouldnt consider any of that would you? no.. no.. you're hip hop = thug life till we die... Im not saying any race is particularly good at certain things... Im just layin facts down.

I know its got nothing to do with the topic... but ah well :thumbup:

(X)eed 01-31-05 04:40 AM

******Fuk you dawg im gettin sik of ur asss the same dude p,med me yo look its ur opnion...............yo............this thread is wack.yo look eminem is dope as fuk he is very violent at times but he realets to shyt some ppl just cant......and plz get off pacs dik............................ hes ova rated hes dope though but yo look aiight pac is diffrent and em is diffrent get ova it..........em has gone threw shyt sum ppl havent....yo have u eva been put to gun point stripped 2 ur unda ware and made run around the mall cuzzza sum racist ppl............well dats the shyt em went threw...so fuk aup and get ova it...........and sum points wich i dnt like bout em...1. the way he talks bout women...2.the shyt he talks bout is mom, like violent and absurd shyt.....3. talks to much bout diks...........well dats rreally it but yo if he gets crackin hes dope,,,,DNT TELL ME U DINT BOUNCE TO THE BEAT OF LOSE YOURSELF............ now fuk up and gget ova it

CounTREE Jay 01-31-05 04:46 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Was that in English? We need a translator over here. Anyone?

-CJ-

Sean Gunner 01-31-05 11:01 AM

Honestly I can't listen to Eminem only. Some of the stuff I can relate to, but hating my mom I can't. Tupac and Eminem really gives me comfort. No matter what state of mind im in they help me out.

Sean Gunner 01-31-05 11:02 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by DoContinue
thats funny, because you'd be throwing away ur whole shot at the title facing him first round


Well if he can't beat him then how will he have a chance of winning the title anyway? Who are you anyway?

Adrenaline 01-31-05 11:24 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by final
pac is...and will be the greatest person to ever grace a mic...end of story with that

as for eminem
i listen to anything up to eminem show...basically the shit thats funny...because you cant be sad all the time...eminem is there to make you laugh like fuck with his punches and lines so i respect him definately for that

but pac will always be the best to me because of the things you said...i understood mad shit and it made me change my view on the world and made me try and make a change in the community and the rest of the world...pac is the realest and i hope i get like him someday to a point where everyone respects you thats just eternal...


peace


if we all listen to 2pac's positive messages then why do we still kill our own people...I think he said once that the government just gives hoods guns and stuff so we can take out our own race...there's not much of a point in that but it's worth saying.

unto eM, he is aiight...all of his funny songs are rEAL dUMB...like without me or just lose it and stuff..but his other songs like lose urself or for the moment are still tight..I don't really care about him still,he has talent but sometimes he's just dumb... :thefinger

lil critter 01-31-05 11:33 AM

i like em cuz i relate to him more than most mc's uot there and it seems like hes been through the same shit that i have. i dont have problems with my mom but i can definitely relate to the whole trailor park shit cuz when i was little thats what i grew up in. i know the neighborhood that he kinda lived in for a while when he was in missouri and its a lot like mine cept his is a lil worse now. i aint sure what it was like back then. but shit seems a lot more real to me than other mc's and that may be cuz im white hell i dunno. i mean i relate to pac and hes my fav but when im lookin for real shit to me i listen to infinite or ss lp.


Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sonofisis~
I won't even read that, Pac will always be the best, if u disagree, fuck yo mama..


^you've been callin people childish all through this thread when u hate on other peoples opinions and say shit like if u disagree fuck yo mama? interesting


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:34 AM.