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Logic The Goonie 03-22-05 12:08 AM

Judging in audio battles....
 
For all you kids who are gunna bitch and moan about how much i'm "bitching and moaning"...I DID NOT WRITE THIS. PLUS, the original had one of my battles in discussion about this...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'ma throw this up for discussion....foreal..



I was peepin some of the battles in TRP and even here....and u
know whats sad?.....alot of heads lose a battle because of
quality, delivery, and other gay reasons....


in every live battle i been to, i never heard once someone say..
'aiyyo dukes....u woulda got my vote but it sounded like u
was too close to the mic, so i had to vote for the other cat'


although flow has an effect on votes, no doubt....battles should
mainly be judged on disses...period. It's understandable if
someone is completely not even riding the beat at all, thats
different...but like i said, its sad how alot of cats judge...


what else is sad is how someone more net famous than the
other head is battling, and everyone knows the more famous
one really took an L...they still ride him or play follow the
leader....

on a regular track no doubt....your quality and flow...and alot more
things should be alot more polished....but in battling...thats different..
two things u really need to have is to ride a beat decently...and have
some good punches....period


Thoughts?

Cinema 03-22-05 12:12 AM

that's so true battle wins should be based on the amount of disses each competitor had and what one made sence not on how each person flowed through out the session that's why it's better off if people battle acapella instead of using beats so people won't have an excuse on cheating for the other competitor

poetry2abeat 03-22-05 12:14 AM

who beat you that bad for you to post it

opps my thoughts when through my finger to type that

Cinema 03-22-05 12:15 AM

you should shut up you probably can't freestyle using text or audio so you shouldn't express your opinions at others if you can't do something

Logic The Goonie 03-22-05 12:16 AM

Some "RM vet" who has been there since 2001 "beat" me on a site called TRP. Which you will never be dope enough to post at.

And seriously, I don't care about my battles like that, I know if I won or lost. But when other people are getting voted against, c'mon.

Hence me taking the part about me out genius.

poetry2abeat 03-22-05 12:20 AM

why caint i freestlye??
i do battles at the club every wensday cuz thats my day i aint gotta work and that open mike night, you dont know me so fuck off

Cinema 03-22-05 12:22 AM

don't plan on getting to know you and how can you do something when you can't spell mic illiterate kids the punch in your sig is wack by the way

poetry2abeat 03-22-05 12:24 AM

the punches in my sig arent even mine there from my friend who is gone im use them as a memory faggot

anxiety 03-22-05 12:25 AM

Lmao @ "You woulda got my vote but you were too close to the mic"...

True though...

...Voke... 03-22-05 12:26 AM

I'm sorry but if you cant ride the beat at all dont rap........

Logic The Goonie 03-22-05 12:26 AM

^^You get the PM I sent you?

@ anxiety

TeamOne 03-22-05 12:27 AM

i agree to a degree..... there is no reason to lose a battle cuz of bad quality unless it is im,possible to hear the verse..... flow is alil diff story...... but i guess as long asd u are on beat, than it should be by the lyrics after that

... but it sounds like wat that guy was saying was "make ur vote like it was a text battle" ......... that screams a text head, or recently turned audio head

Logic The Goonie 03-22-05 12:27 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ...Voke...
I'm sorry but if you cant ride the beat at all dont rap........

I know you aint talkin to me

anxiety 03-22-05 12:27 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Socrates
^^You get the PM I sent you?

@ anxiety



Word I got it... I just been busy, i meant to thank you :thumbup:

Some good shit.

Logic The Goonie 03-22-05 12:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by FuxJustAWord
i agree to a degree..... there is no reason to lose a battle cuz of bad quality unless it is im,possible to hear the verse..... flow is alil diff story...... but i guess as long asd u are on beat, than it should be by the lyrics after that

... but it sounds like wat that guy was saying was "make ur vote like it was a text battle" ......... that screams a text head, or recently turned audio head

Actually, he's been doing in like more than a year. Maybe 2 soon I think.

As in audio.

...Voke... 03-22-05 12:42 AM

i wasnt talking bout you......responding to the the info in that post

Logic The Goonie 03-22-05 12:47 AM

As in I can't spit to a beat?

Please elaborate...

anxiety 03-22-05 12:51 AM

Soc... Our topical battle is really pissing me off.

Logic The Goonie 03-22-05 12:55 AM

Just get it closed. ROFL

anxiety 03-22-05 01:04 AM

I don't think I can... Because... I'm winning...

TeamOne 03-22-05 01:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Socrates
Actually, he's been doing in like more than a year. Maybe 2 soon I think.

As in audio.


lol...... he must suck at his flow.... lol, or be poor as fuck..... cuz it really sounds like he sed that u should judge audio battles by their text

Logic The Goonie 03-22-05 01:29 AM

13th Disiciple?

Never.

TeamOne 03-22-05 01:46 AM

fuckin smart-ass bitch.......

Logic The Goonie 03-22-05 02:10 AM

Huh?...........

Know-Gimix 03-22-05 10:12 AM

it sounds like what fux said, if I hear two verses and one cat sounds like complete shit with decent punches, and the other cat sounds clear, confident and delivers his punches with better style, ima vote for him. It's not hard to write a joke that rhymes, whats hard is putting it out there in an entertaining manner.

Pop Lotty 03-22-05 10:17 AM

Link me to that battle bitch.

R.Christensen 03-22-05 10:41 AM

Let me add this...

Delivery is important... it falls right in line with mic presence.... you need this to have a compelling track, whether battle or not....

The Blacc Bar 03-22-05 07:01 PM

i agree completely

Logic The Goonie 03-22-05 08:18 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pop Lotty
Link me to that battle bitch.

Fucka gettin banned. Get at me on AIM.

And all y'all who think this is how I feel are wrong. I merely thought he brought up an interesting point and wanted to see how y'all saw it. :thumbup:

American Tiger 03-22-05 08:49 PM

Punches are pointless with out Flow.

Do text if you can't Flow.

End Of Story.

Logic The Goonie 03-22-05 08:52 PM

Didn't he say that as long as they have decent flow it shouldn't matter?
As in, just because someones flowed particualry better, doesn't mean they earn any major points.

Read and comprehend next time son. F'real.

American Tiger 03-22-05 08:57 PM

sum ones just pissy they aint good enough for the SSS Invite.
Remember where u stand with me lil' man.....

and stop with the son shit.....

Ca'lam 03-22-05 09:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Socrates
For all you kids who are gunna bitch and moan about how much i'm "bitching and moaning"...I DID NOT WRITE THIS. PLUS, the original had one of my battles in discussion about this...



Thoughts?

well.... in regard to the whole delivery thing.. since its a TRACK and not a live battle.. delivery should be fucking flawless... point blank... in live battles its ok to fuck up flow... when u have the time to record and record and re-re-record, your flow shoul dbe flawless... thats why delivyer is such a big player in being sucessful in ANY track/diss... why the fuck woudl u calll it a battle TRACK, if u didnt put effort into it and try to make it sound good ? i could read off millions of punches with no flow and i woul expect to lose.. its about nejoying the battle track, not listening for punches... punches and delivery go hand in hand.. 40 percent each i'd say... quality/beat is the last 20 percent.. so if ur wack at flowing u already guranteed a 60 percent or lower... so your choice.. thats how ima vote.. this aint live... so make ya shit easy to listen and vibe to.. if you suck at ya delivery.... Dont make a track ------Freestyle it.. cause i aint gon be listening to all this "its a battle the punches mean more" cause they dont... they are about hand and hand with delivery.. get ya shit right, or dont come at all

Logic The Goonie 03-22-05 09:05 PM

Shut up son.
You're fuckin retarded son.
I could beat a lot of people in that tourny son.
Suck my dick son.

And how am I pissy for pointing out how dumb you are?

Logic The Goonie 03-22-05 09:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix
well.... in regard to the whole delivery thing.. since its a TRACK and not a live battle.. delivery should be fucking flawless... point blank... in live battles its ok to fuck up flow... when u have the time to record and record and re-re-record, your flow shoul dbe flawless... thats why delivyer is such a big player in being sucessful in ANY track/diss... why the fuck woudl u calll it a battle TRACK, if u didnt put effort into it and try to make it sound good ? i could read off millions of punches with no flow and i woul expect to lose.. its about nejoying the battle track, not listening for punches... punches and delivery go hand in hand.. 40 percent each i'd say... quality/beat is the last 20 percent.. so if ur wack at flowing u already guranteed a 60 percent or lower... so your choice.. thats how ima vote.. this aint live... so make ya shit easy to listen and vibe to.. if you suck at ya delivery.... Dont make a track ------Freestyle it.. cause i aint gon be listening to all this "its a battle the punches mean more" cause they dont... they are about hand and hand with delivery.. get ya shit right, or dont come at all

Blah, like I said, I aint write that.

This is the exact same approach RB heads had to it, I just wanted to see how long it would take someone.

I agree, but honestly, some of the things have become completely fuckin retarded. Like quality, shows ABSOLUTELY NO EMCEE'ing ability. It's how expensive of a mic you can afford and how good you can mix. That's all.

This "beat" shit like it fuckin matters. Who in history would say "Ether is slighlty better because it has a better beat"?

Just, personally, I think our eyes have been taken away from the raw essence of battling and landed on looking/sounding prettier.

Nah mean?

anxiety 03-22-05 09:14 PM

Actually... If 2 diss songs are completely equal, say Jay-Z verse Nas... Everything about both was flawless, but one had a better beat, wouldnt that song be better? I would think so...

High-Dro 03-22-05 09:16 PM

i dont vote on audio but everything that was mentioned there is very true in my opinion

Logic The Goonie 03-22-05 09:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by anxiety
Actually... If 2 diss songs are completely equal, say Jay-Z verse Nas... Everything about both was flawless, but one had a better beat, wouldnt that song be better? I would think so...

We're not talking about songs. This is battles.

But people don't vote on beat's as a tie-breaker anymore. That's the difference.

Wet Willy 03-22-05 09:32 PM

Soc, on a rampage... i agree to a degree.. when ur listen to an audio on here.. i know to me its a big deal for it to sound clear/crisp... but what matters more is flow/punches/delivery... but if someone had HORRIBLE!! quality and nice flow some nice punches.. and the other guy had good flow.. decent punches, and nice quality im probably voting for him.. due to the fact it was easier on the ears.. but really this could go either way..

Tremendous 03-22-05 09:32 PM

I vote on flow...punches..originalty...presence.. and personals delivery and shit just help it sound doper


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