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High-Dro 06-08-05 07:05 PM

Excerpt From An Essay I Had To Write..Tell Me What You Think
 
this is part of an essay i wrote for english class earlier in the year, tell me what you think


Just look at what happened to one of the most exciting, invigorating socio-cultural movements of our generation: hip hop. From its birth in the 1970s until the early 1990s, hip-hop was the vanguard force of a dramatic transformation in urban African American life. Hip hop was not just one of the most important innovations that pop music had seen in a generation but a whole culture, encompassing new styles of dance and dress and speech and a new form of visual art (graffiti). It promised to reclaim the primacy of black artists in pop music. It was, moreover, an embryonic political movement. When Chuck D of Public Enemy declared rap music “black America’s CNN” in the late 1980s, there seemed to be considerable truth to the claim, and enormous potential to the cause.
Within a few short years, though, hip-hop-at least in its mainstream incarnation-would be horribly disfigured and all but entirely disconnected from its uplifting, block-partying roots. The world’s multinational entertainment conglomerates co-opted its sound and pose, fed on its credibility, discouraged its constructive traits and celebrated its worst impulses. Hip-hop artists were reduced to ultra-violent cartoon characters spinning musical horror flicks for white suburbanites, while the culture was stripped down to its most saleable elements and put to work as a marketing vehicle for sportswear and running shoes (and, in time, for seemingly everything). Rap soon looked more like white America’s Home Shopping Network than black America’s CNN. Hip-hop has been processed into a corporate sub-genre, a brand identity, a tidy package of cool.

Cocaine 06-08-05 07:08 PM

its nice.. i suppose :thumbup:

Logic The Goonie 06-08-05 07:13 PM

Good job. Pretty good control of your language.

Viva 06-08-05 07:14 PM

i think i spotted a few words in there that weren't actually real words lol

High-Dro 06-08-05 07:15 PM

lol thanks soc...and lmao at Opt...i hope you're joking...if not, tell me them and i'll supply a definition

High-Dro 06-08-05 07:17 PM

and BTW, yes, i do have a good english mark...98%...don't hate lol

Viva 06-08-05 07:19 PM

lol I'm jus tryin to be controversial!:thumbup: but fo'real nice essay! lol

High-Dro 06-08-05 07:21 PM

hhaha aight, thanks....any more comments ladies and gentlemen?

kar0de 06-08-05 07:22 PM

yeah good use of vocabulary, id give this a 89% :thumbup:.

Lyriclesolja 06-08-05 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kar0de
yeah good use of vocabulary, id give this a 89% :thumbup:.


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word same here nice speech :thumbup:

High-Dro 06-08-05 07:25 PM

89%?!?!?! fuck you, SON!!!!!....i get 100 on that shit

Logic The Goonie 06-08-05 07:27 PM

What grade are you in?

High-Dro 06-08-05 07:34 PM

11th......grade

Logic The Goonie 06-08-05 07:38 PM

Good shit. I still write better than yooooou. :p

High-Dro 06-08-05 07:56 PM

not likely, hoe

WERD 06-08-05 08:08 PM

PFFT, *back hands ur essay in face*

use regalar werdz foo

grade 10 english fo tha 3rd year next year bitchez!!! i own high dro, and we sit at tha same desk, yo high dro, did u eva c that cheese i put n tha desk? it wuz dope, it turned all hard and it felt all weird. me n john put sum cheese slices in sum books in tha library, lmao, tha pages r all turnin yellow n shit, hahahahah, werd

kelsick39 06-08-05 08:09 PM

its a good essay i must admit........ but it is very biased in the stance u take....... i hope in atleast one part of the essay u blame african americans themselves in some parts for the violence and drugs...... but besides that it was great in how u presented it

High-Dro 06-08-05 08:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kelsick39
i hope in atleast one part of the essay u blame african americans themselves in some parts for the violence and drugs


??????????????????whut the fuck? no i didnt

Quote:
Originally Posted by kelsick39
but it is very biased in the stance u take.......

essay=opinion paper


and KOOL, that ain't my english class, it's my canadian history class...i was in english last semester

WERD 06-08-05 08:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~High-Dro~

and KOOL, that ain't my english class, it's my canadian history class...i was in english last semester


well either way we both use tha same desk, did u c tha cheese???

werd

High-Dro 06-08-05 08:24 PM

non, je n'ai pas voyer le fromage

J-Money 06-08-05 08:27 PM

nicely written essay

WERD 06-08-05 08:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~High-Dro~
non, je n'ai pas voyer le fromage


FUCK OUTTA HEA WIF THA FRENCH GAYNESS!!!! fucka french

Spanish>>>>>>>french, werd

High-Dro 06-08-05 08:29 PM

colby<dirt

not even store bought dirt, the kind in the woods

kelsick39 06-08-05 08:38 PM

whyd u go "WHUt the fuck???????????!?!?!?" and shit wen i sed sumthin about african americans havin to take responsibility for the actions THEY committed...... its all very logical to me

High-Dro 06-08-05 09:27 PM

that=racist..x1000

kelsick39 06-08-05 09:29 PM

^^^^^^^^^^ LMFAO......... explain how thats racist????? ok...... next time i commit a murder, ill blame it on somebody else......

High-Dro 06-08-05 09:38 PM

when you say "african americans havin to take responsibility for the actions"

you say it as if ALL african americans are involved in violence and drugs

kelsick39 06-08-05 09:45 PM

^^^^^^^ lmfao.... no i didnt..... and i just stated that in general someone should take responsibilty for wat they did...... im sure that all rappers who run around with gats and do drugs just dont do it becuase theyll be sellin more records to rich white kids if they do.... im pretty sure they all had that before becomin famous....

High-Dro 06-08-05 09:54 PM

ur exact quote was "i hope in atleast one part of the essay u blame african americans themselves in some parts for the violence and drugs"

kelsick39 06-08-05 10:00 PM

Hip-hop artists were reduced to ultra-violent cartoon characters spinning musical horror flicks for white suburbanites. -High Dro

And u exclusively speak about black hip hop artists in that whole excerpt...... next time i will say "Hip hop artists" if u want..... but u made it seem like white kids made hip hop violent and full of drugs.... wen these white suburbanites (for the most part) took no part in the violence associated with hip hop.....

High-Dro 06-08-05 10:21 PM

when i said "white suburbanites" i was sayin that the violence was loved by white teens in suburban areas, it was because they were then finally introduced to hip hop. while many black people were already accustomed to hip hop music while white people in the suburbs were completely oblivious to it because it wasn't on tv, and they just weren't around places where hip hop was originally.

"wen these white suburbanites (for the most part) took no part in the violence associated with hip hop....."

that is not at all what i said, i said that this was when white suburbanites were finally introduced to hip hop, which in many cases, could involve violent lyrics....i didn't say anything about any specific race doing illegal things, YOU DIED....unless, you have a problem reading, i cannot understand where you got that from

kelsick39 06-08-05 11:43 PM

Rap soon looked more like white America’s Home Shopping Network than black America’s CNN - High Dro

Dude, are u kiddin me..... everythin u sed in there had this huge undertone of "hip hop was so great and stuff until the white people started listenin to it" .... or is it just coincidental that the first time u mention the downfall of hip hop, u also mention the introduction of white suburban listeners in the same paragraph???

.... and i bring up the thing about african americans (the race thing) because the time period u were speakin about (70s-90s) was wen rap was almost exclusively performed by blacks and you only refer to black artists in ur excerpt, so my assumption that the "gun totin" u were speakin of was related to African Americans, should be fully warranted...

Rap soon looked more like white America’s Home Shopping Network than black America’s CNN - High Dro

Dude, are u kiddin me..... everythin u sed in there had this huge undertone of "hip hop was so great and stuff until the white people started listenin to it" ....

.... and i bring up the thing about african americans because the time period u were speakin about (70s-90s) was wen rap was almost exclusively performed by blacks and you only refer to black artists in ur excerpt, so my assumption that the "gun totin" u were speakin of was related to African Americans should be fully warranted...

I sed that ur thing was very well written man, and maybe it deserved an A, but i was just pointin out that u seemed very biased and shoulda atleast MENTIONED that the use of violence was not only in relation with white kids bein introduced and to entertain them (or was hopin u had mentioned it somewhere in ur paper).... cuz even wen writing an opinion paper, mentionin the other side can be used very greatly to ur advantage.... Especially since the violence was used to appeal to the black ghetto's of the world because accordin to many of those inhabitants, a gun and a dime bag showed "credibility," that ur livin the "culture" as that was and is a major part of it throughout its lifetime....... why do u think NWA went around yellin "Fuck the Police" when only one of them (Eazy-E) had a criminal record???.... (and Eazy-E's charge wasnt even a felony, and i dont believe he was convicted either)

High-Dro 06-09-05 01:28 PM

it just so happened that white people started listening to it when it went mainstream...i'm not blaming white people for how it went, i'm blaming the fact that it went mainstream

Keith Moon 06-09-05 02:43 PM

Dope job..I was impreseed...a little

High-Dro 06-11-05 08:23 PM

werd...........

Terumoto 06-11-05 10:48 PM

It was good.

But white's were listening and living hip hop before it went mainstream... Usually not as rappers, but as DJ's, artists and bboys. You seem to only be discussing the music side of things, which is NOT hip hop, its rap. Rap wasn't soiled until like 10-20 years after hip hop's birth... Or even later. Run DMC was real, they didn't talk shit and they made money for it. And even cats in the 90's stayed real... Just cos gangsta rap is their style doesn't mean they're ruining hip hop, it's just another branch of rap... Nowadays rap is getting fucked on in the mainstream because people are just in it for money and are NOT real...

Hip hop as a culture started to lose its integrity when it got commercialised in the 80's by the media... TV shows, commercials, movies (like beat street and flashdance) caused an influx of dudes into the culture. The people who were real and original hip hop heads didn't like this abuse of their culture... Thus, hip hop branched into underground and mainstream... theres no black or white about it.

In that excerpt from your essay, it's like you're saying everything was all good until gangsta rap came along and ruined hip hop because it made white suburbanites wanna listen.... Gotta get ya facts straight n' shit.

Ltizzle 06-12-05 02:03 AM

you think i could cough up some rv cash for an essay in the future? :)

High-Dro 06-13-05 09:47 PM

no...fuck rv cash, son


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