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M-Eazy 06-14-05 05:56 PM

Self Glorifying (:nono:) So What!!!
 
:nono: ...When you guys vote, who cares about Self Glorifying? I can understand if it's a whole verse, but a bar or 2 should'nt make you vote against someone. I was just checkin polls, and hella people say self glorifying is why they voted against them. That is some bullshit. If you would listen to some battles, there is self-glorifying/disses in there. Take the famous Nas vs Jay-Z battle for example:

"I got this, locked since '9-1
I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced
Gave y'all chapters but now I keep my eyes on the Judas
With Hawaiin Sophie fame, kept my name in his music"
-nas: either


"The takeover, the break's over nigga
God MC, me, Jay-Hova"-Jay-Z: Takeover

"I put dollars on mine, ask Columbine
When the Twin Towers dropped, I was the first in line
Donating proceeds off every ticket sold

When I was out on the road, that's how you judge Hov, no?" - Jay-Z: Blueprint 2

"My first album had no famous guest appearances
the outcome, I'm was crowned the best lyricist"
- Nas : Got urself a gun


In Conclusion, who ever said you can't self glorify yourself while dissing someone. Self-Glorification is just saying that you are better than your oponent, and they can't top your skill. So, please stop voting according to self-glorification.

Dizzee Rascal 06-14-05 05:59 PM

Werd in a face to face battle self glorifiying is just 1 method to show ur better than the other cat as long as punches r thrown then its bullshit people prosecuted for it

M-Eazy 06-14-05 06:02 PM

Exactly, niggas is stupid.

"you lost because you had self-glorifying lyrics"

^Thats the most herbish comment to make

Indeph 06-14-05 06:02 PM

I'm wrong and you're right. :)

M-Eazy 06-14-05 06:06 PM

^My point exactly...nah, but for real..this is a serious matter. Because not only myself, but alot of people on RV got shitted out of a win, because someone else doesnt know how to vote. [/YES IM TELLIN YOU HOW TO VOTE]

lol

Hitchcock 06-14-05 06:11 PM

hell yeah i hate that shit

¤ÐÅž¤ 06-14-05 06:21 PM

nah, text is different from lyrics..
self glorification aint good in text
but if street battlin, sure, it dont hurt ya..
.
why you tellin people how to vote..?
are you rv's new voting ring..?

Magic5 06-14-05 06:23 PM

Lol. Word to Daz. In a text battle talking about how you run the streets or you're so good is shit.

Hitchcock 06-14-05 06:28 PM

i dont see how its so different.....explain

Magic5 06-14-05 06:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hitchcock
i dont see how its so different.....explain


Like, in a battle the point is to diss the other person right?

Saying something like this is wack..

I be the bomb.... and best believe that I'm tight
Cause everyone knows.. im the best on the site

It's just like.. who gives a fuck, nah leans?

Sinikal..45 06-14-05 06:46 PM

word is bond, niggas on this site be rappin bout some bullshit

Hitchcock 06-14-05 06:53 PM

well im sayin tho, that bar was kind of wack but like if somebody uses a hot bar i dont think that should take away from them

M-Eazy 06-14-05 07:35 PM

^Agree'd. And like previously stated, I am tellin ya'll how to vote..lol...nah, but on tha for real tip....so what if its text, i bet if i go search some audio battles, niggas is sayin no to self glorification too. i think few self glorification shouldnt hurt ya verse.

Magic5 06-14-05 07:53 PM

In text you vote on punches. Talking about how good you are isn't a punch. The point of a battle is to diss the other dude. Talking about yourself doesn't do shit. And, I know that bar was wack, I was just giving an example.

Nynth Degree 06-14-05 08:17 PM

Word to Mim...self-glory takes away from a text verse.

Mad Dog 06-14-05 08:25 PM

Text is more direct you have to keep the person reading and IMO self-glory isn't a way to keep me interested...audio is mainly flow and rhyming/pronouciation so yea you can get away wit it but not too much...but self-G bars are wasted in text battles...it's gotta be creative from a dissin point of view otherwise it wouldn't be a battle would it?

Sean Gunner 06-14-05 10:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by M-Eazy
"I got this, locked since '9-1
I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced
Gave y'all chapters but now I keep my eyes on the Judas
With Hawaiin Sophie fame, kept my name in his music"
-nas: either


"The takeover, the break's over nigga
God MC, me, Jay-Hova"-Jay-Z: Takeover

"I put dollars on mine, ask Columbine
When the Twin Towers dropped, I was the first in line
Donating proceeds off every ticket sold

When I was out on the road, that's how you judge Hov, no?" - Jay-Z: Blueprint 2

"My first album had no famous guest appearances
the outcome, I'm was crowned the best lyricist"
- Nas : Got urself a gun


All your examples were songs, not battles....

J. Luth 06-14-05 10:42 PM

no but I agree with him. ONE bar shouldn't be a bad thing.

Indeph 06-14-05 10:44 PM

self glory's ok when freestyling,but when you're givin the time to think
Jesus diss the dude.I would prefer it be all personals too lol You god damn right bitch.

now want some grapes? pancakes?

J. Luth 06-15-05 06:57 AM

^your mom?.....................

D 06-15-05 07:41 AM

in text it just wastes space, basically filler. and when in a text battle and youre dissing theres really no need for it.

Ca'lam 06-15-05 07:48 AM

lmao i forgot "RV's" text rules sooo lol... i cant speal on text.. but in audio to MANY self glorification lines in a battle will start me takin off points.. i mean there cool and all for FILLER.. but you still need punches son

Terumoto 06-15-05 07:49 AM

I always have self glory in my verses... well like one or two bars anyway... You cant just say some wack shit like

im the coolest, you know rap? well I was the first to do it
the bullshit you say isnt affecting me, like I was fuckin stupid

If you do decent shit voters dont seem to mind. Like my battle with Kill Switch. I use self glory in that, you all should go and look at it and vote on it...................... :rolleyes:

Terumoto 06-15-05 07:50 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix
lmao i forgot "RV's" text rules sooo lol... i cant speal on text.. but in audio to MANY self glorification lines in a battle will start me takin off points.. i mean there cool and all for FILLER.. but you still need punches son


wtf get on aim slut.

Viva 06-15-05 07:51 AM

wat if u glorified urself in a line then compared the other person to it while dissin them at the same time, how u sposed to vote on that and evry1 says yeah dope wordplay etc etc if sum1 has really good wordplay but the diss aint that good they still get the vote for it, thats basically sayin its alrite to do that but not alrite to self glorify! :huh:

Terumoto 06-15-05 09:31 AM

Good wordplay is dope though. If something makes me laugh or go OH SHIT because of how dope it is, and the other dude had none of those lines... I know who id vote for..

M-Eazy 06-15-05 10:23 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Revelation
All your examples were songs, not battles....



No, they were battle songs. I didn't say nothing about freestyle battlin, cause no one on this site does that.

M-Eazy 06-15-05 10:27 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ndeph
self glory's ok when freestyling,but when you're givin the time to think
Jesus diss the dude.I would prefer it be all personals too lol You god damn right bitch.

now want some grapes? pancakes?



No, but I would like waffles.

DQ 06-16-05 11:52 AM

I just don't like reading self-glorifying stuff in a text battle on the net, if you work it out as a creative punch I don't mind but I don't see it a lot unless when the cats are new or wanna act tough so it's all good...

RapGod 06-16-05 12:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ¤ÐÅž¤
nah, text is different from lyrics..
self glorification aint good in text
but if street battlin, sure, it dont hurt ya..
.
why you tellin people how to vote..?
are you rv's new voting ring..?

hell yeah
makes sense to me
if u text battlin, nobody wants so sit up and read about how u not dissin the other guy... in an audio diss *which also happens to be a fuckin song on a CD* u wont always have every single line to diss him. in Nas's songs where he was like "name a rapper that i aint influence" he was really just sayin that JAy-Z dont influence anybody and pointing out that nas influenced jay-z...
also when he said the thing about guest appearances, he was saying that Jay-z's 1st album had biggie and foxy brown, nas had no famous ppl but still had a better album. its not really self glory- he's just pointing out how he's better.

Ghost 06-16-05 04:34 PM

Lol Im Tellin You Ni99a!SELF GLORIFICATION in most Of My Battled Are Present But Only in About One Line!N Ni99az be Usin That Against me!i Bet i Would Have Atleast had one WIN instead of Losses Cuz of SELF GLORIFICATION D/Ridaz!But Its All good Cuz they Aint Shyt Anywayz!Holla Back atcha Boy!
And i Agree with Ma Boy Eazy 100%!
DEUCEZ

The Black Plague 06-16-05 06:14 PM

My Opinion... if its a gay diss, it shouldn't be used, and if its wack self glorification.. shouldn't be used..

But if its a hot line, and the writer both disses his opponent, and throws some hot braggin lines in there, he should'n be criticized for it

Dizzee Rascal 06-16-05 06:31 PM

Basically
Self glorification shouldnt be awarded
BUT
on that same note, some 1 shouldnt be prosecuted because of it

Voting against some1 for it is wack
As is voting for some1 because of it
Thats just how simple the matter really is


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