Religious origions.
 

My question is dealing with religious origions. I want to make a list of all religions that did not origionate as a sect of another belief.

I can think of:

Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, ..



Ok, I know people are going to say Christianity, catholics, etc. Technically they are in relation to Judaism with the exception that judist's believe the masiah has not come yet. I'm not looking at beliefs and traditions of the religions, I'm looking at the overall system (I.E christianity=god & satan, Buddhism=a real smart fat dude etc[im not too knowledgable on buddhism as you can tell]) But to my knowledge these are religions that have origional concepts and do not claim their origions as a sect from another religion.

I'm looking for a certain number of them which I think I already know the diget, but I need the names to check it. Dont ask why, just try and answer the question.
Thanks to any people who can help.

I dont know much about the hole religion deal, like this indepth... But I will be insterested to see what others say...

muslim originated from judaism too, so it shouldnt be on the list
the only two that you didnt name that i can think of are shinto and sikhism

i predict that this thread is going to go offtopic to a religious argument over whether god exists or what religion is "real" very soon
even non-religious threads eventually do (thx to denied truth and titobronsky), so this one doesnt stand a chance

Muslims taken out... Cmon people, help a brutha out here..
If the number is what I think it is, then this is gonna be very interesting..

Nos is trying to take over the world I believe.

But I do know budism is a search for inner peace. :)

if u needed to know about it...it has no god buddah was the teacher of it.

I think :huh:

mormonism

hare krishna-ism

word...

Yeah, buddhism I'm not too sure of, thats why I need peoples help to build this list. Maybe I'll move it to the lounge to get more of a response.

Mormans are not a religion, they are a dilusional cult.
They are also a sect of christianity which is a sect of judahism.

And the Hare Krishnas origionated in 1960. They are just idiots that dance around and make dicks of themselves. Not a true religion in my opinion either.

mormons arent a sect of christianity...theyre a made up religion like scientology...

"The church of Jesus Christ and the latter day saints" (Mormons)

Sure sounds like a sect relating to judaism to me.
They use the same system, just have different belief's.

most religions are interrelated such as judaism and christianity....christianity consists of many forms such as baptist, lutheran, mormon, all the way down to jehovahs witnesses....the funny thing is they all read from the same bible but they all use different sections of it to base and explain away their actions....even the amish read that same bible and look at their life.... hinduism is related to shintoism and many other forms.... if you really want to learn about things like this then read the bible and the koran and sun tzus art of war and a million different texts that explain reasons for religious convictions and find the shit out for yourself instead of tryin to figure out something so complex off of hearsay even the fact that you said buddhism is all about a really smart fat dude shows me that you are far from a thinking man and maybe you should try to get into that mindset before you attempt to figure something thats a bit too deep for you bro! love peace and chicken grease

I cut out the first part of your post because it answers nothing I didnt already know. I'm asking for names of religions that arnt sect's of another religion. With hinduism and shintoism, how are they related? And which was the first religion that used the basic system these two use is what I would like to know.

I didnt expect straight up answers off a forum and I check every peice of new information people give me for flaws. Such as you telling me to read Sun Tzu's art of war to properly understand this question of the where religions origionated.

And by the way, how I type is irrelevant to how intelligent or how much of a thinking man I am. I think youd be surprised if you actually knew me and wernt just assuming things..
I mean...
Going out on a limb with assumptions based on one bracketed peice of information is beyond doubt a trait of a fool wouldnt you agree?

I'm trying to gather this information for a purpose which I'm not going to explain, its not to further understand religion although I'm always happy to learn things I'm interested in. Any information you can provide towards helping me answer the actual question I'm asking would be much apreciated.

Hinduism is the only religion which originations are unknown..but it's changed so many times too.First it was the Vedas,Vishnu,SHiva....etc.

THen it became Satya Sai(who is alive in India right now)......but anyways...you guys probably don't know about what i'm talking about

Hinduism maybe (not sure about islam)the only religion that didn't originate from other beliefs.

what about shinto and sikhism- i mentioned them in my first post but u didnt seem to notice...

sikhism
http://www.beliefnet.com/index/index_10036.html

"Sikhism originated in the Punjab region of northwest India, where it drew on elements from Bhakti Hinduism and Islamic Sufism to develop into a distinctive religious tradition in its own right."

Shinto
http://www.beliefnet.com/index/index_10030.html

"Shinto (or kami no michi, "way of the kami," or gods) is a prehistoric religious tradition indigenous to Japan, which has been influenced by Buddhism and Chinese religions"

Hinduism
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hinduism.htm

"Hinduism does not have a single founder"

Wherever you go...it will state that hinduism is the oldest religion and has no single founder...thus..it was not influenced by others.

Mhmm.. So far there is three, and Buddhism I'm now not entirly sure whether it fits the catagory. This is interesting..

Is there any other religions besides buddhism, judaism & hinduism that people know of that are not sects?

Thanks to all the people helping so far aswell..

Actually Buddhism doesn't belong in your list...it is like a child of Hinduism

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia...5/Hinduism.html
^^7th paragraph

"Three other religions that originated in India branched off from Hinduism: Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism (see Sikhs"

As for Judaism

http://www.rishon-rishon.com/archives/031126.php

"Zoroastrianism was once a major religion which influenced Judaism and Christianity"

Yeah, Buddhism's out.
That page on hinduism was really useful, I've read a lot about it now and its really broardened my perspective and views. Thanks for the link man. A lot of things are starting to peice together now.

As for the Zoroastrianism, I'm going to have to read up on that. It seems as though it Judaism isnt a sect, but was just influenced by it. This could simply mean religious traditions and values, so I'm not sure if its relevant to me at the moment. But I'll find out.

Mhmm, so at the moment, the list is Judaism & Hinduism.. Is there any more people can think of? I'm also going to have to read up on Islam aswell, because that could possibly be part of this list..

alot of religions if you think about it stem from alot og pagon beliefs that have been changed to fit the standards of the society that they are used in. organized religion as a whole can be good ...but at the same time...you also need to look at how the development of the society goes. i mean there are prolly hundreds even thousands of religions we don't know about. that just died out because the "monster" religions decided to snuff em out...you also have to count in the fact that there was no written history... and so everything was by word of mouth so if it died out it was because of a war or something. but religion was also sort of the history of a culture . hinduism is a organized religion but it had to stem from something (this was all we talked about for a semester in my religion class)

Hinduism stems from the search to find enlightenment. Thats why its changed so much, because they are open to change and advancements of their ideas. Youll find that most religions base their origions on some kind of prophetic revelation. One of my theorys or hypotheticals is attempting to peice together a larger translation based on what a central god figure (whether it be god, allah, brahman, etc) has given to different cultures in different ways to suit their way of life and ideals for faith. I also believe that the majority of these snuffed out religions you believe existed would most likly have been man made or forms of control which would have been more prevelant back in those times.

This theory of translation has little to do with my reason for asking the innitial question in my first post though.

I read ever single post... And learned more in about 20 minutes than I would learn in a half semester of school... LoL, yall doin good work... damn, lol

Thats school for you though man. They teach you to be a mindless workhorse for the system and nothing more. Real knowledge comes to those who look for it themselves.

wiccan ?

*shrug*

Nah man Wiccans are just gay......

lol, I tried :(

^^yea, me too
i did take a class on religion, and i didnt even learn 1/10th of this thread :thumbup:

Does anybody know what the ancient Egyptian religions were called?

I'd like to study them next.

All I can think of is those ones in your list...

Buddhism is a sect of hinduism, but really shouldnt be considered that way... its VERY different. Have you looked into it yet?

I can't be bothered saying anything about egyptian religion. But heres a link that outlines the basics vaguely.

http://www2.sptimes.com/Egypt/EgyptCredit.4.3.html