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WHACK........I cant believe y'all is on his dick.


''oh yeah pac was the best rapper of all time''...wtf? lol

Most pac fans in this modern day would pay no attention too him if....He wasnt dead (R.I.P)

But yeah the point is, 2pac is not as great as everybody makes out.


When he was alive, his music was aight, but its all the same lyrics, his songs are boring now......he aint the best rapper of all time, an he wasnt even an ''mc'' either, more of a pop artist if you ask me.

He was just lyrical and deep wit his shit you can actually picture everything he said...back then anything he would say ppl would do if he said being gay was gangsta ppl would be gay lol he was god to em and still is to some...he based his lyrics on tragedy in life and always had to do somethin wit death in almost all his songs and poems so yea he is one of the best cuz he's lyrical and deep wit his shit and he's just lyrically more advance then most ppl in those years back then

I understand what your sayin....but he was kinda hypocritical in his rhymes

He was born on the eastcoast, but constantly hollerd ''WESTSIDE'' On his tracks, an many times said ''FUCK THE EASTCOAST''.....an also, wasnt he a damn ballerina? I'm sure he was.......

but anyway, He was kind of real, he did send out a message, but he didnt need to send out that messsage in every single tracks, he could of switched his style up a lil bit, I think if he was still alive, he'd be in the same category as snoop dogg right now, fell off an in an attempt too re-live his glory days, he'd work with pop artists an try making money in the pop charts.

he was born in brooklyn but was raised in the west...it's where you was raised cuz you know that hood better and ppl have ya back in the hood you was raised not the one that you was born cuz you dont know no one there ya get me like i was born in queens and raised so I'm east side to the fullest but if i moved to the west side since i was lil I would be screamin out WEST SIDE lol cuz i would be raised in the west and that's wat happen to him

Word, wtf am i talkin about, I was born in the west, but basically raized down south lol#

but anyway, fuck my hypocritical an contradicting comments, pac is still laaaaaaame.

well his all eyez on me album was dope, an so was r u still down, but he'd be a fallen soldier in the game if he was still alive.

u cant judge pac based on his post-mortem albums, if he was still alive he'd keep on getting better like he did when he was alive

Pac iz the greatest MC of all time cuz of his lyricism and his realness. 50cent don't get as much respect as him cuz he's alwayz false-flaggin'; and Em(white, gay-bashing rapper. nuff said). as for him getting bigger when he died, i agree wit u. shit, i was only 6 or7! I listened to him when he was alive though and i thought he was sick. he was a little pop(ex. i get around), but even as a rapper u have to be a little pop to be mainstream and sell records. i guess my point iz, if he wasn't the greatest of all time who iz?(please don't say Biggie. he only dropped 2 albulms)

pac was dope cuz his message..he wasnt the most lyrical but lotz of people could relate....it's kinda a thang where u like it or u dont....but either way u gotz ta show the emcee some respect dawg

Emcee? are we talkin about the same 2pac?

He was no emcee, Bet the nigga never battled in his life

his message he sent out was positive for the black community, I rate him in the same category as Malcolm X an shit, but....As an emcee an his lyrical content was nothin special.

Get your shit correct, son......album sales dont make you lyrically superior.

Ive totally lost all the respect I ever had of you, how can you think hes shit. First of all listen to these songs:

2pac - Starin Through My Rearview
2pac - Happy Home
2pac - Changes (u musta heard this)
2pac - Picture me Rollin
2pac - Ambitonz as a Ridah

Shows tupac propperly, and also I think Pac was influential on a music level and world level:

Music Level

First of all for his time period, there was not too many Raw, cutthroat rappers, he revolutinized rap, hes poetry reached many people, amongst me. He went through things people could understand and the way he expresed all of it reached us, His lyrics are jus amazing I will now point out some random lyrics from him, I guarentee brilliant rhymes:

These rhymes are from Panther Power, as a strong African American, I believe hugely in the Power Of the Panther, he kept this shit alive...

As real as it seems the American Dream
Ain't nothing but another calculated schemes
To get us locked up shot up back in chains
To deny us of the future rob our names
Kept my history of mystery but now I see
The American Dream wasn't meant for me
Cause lady liberty is a hypocrite she lied to me
Promised me freedom, education, equality
Never gave me nothing but slavery
And now look at how dangerous you made me
Calling me a mad man cause I'm strong and bold
With this dump full of knowledge of the lies you told
Promise me emancipation indispute nation
All you gave my people was our patience
Fathers of our country never cared for me
They kept my answer shackled up in slavery
And Uncle Sam never did a dam thing for me
Except lie about the facts in my history
So now I'm sitting hear mad cause I'm unemployed
But the government's glad cause they enjoyed
When my people are down so they can screw us around
Time to change the government now panther power

Those lyrics alone show the heart of a young man who was a strong black man and represented many of us, you may not be feelin his shit...but you wanna know why others do? heres a reason, his political views got him killed but told America what its really like.............

I could go on forever....but this is real and this is what I believe and this line by itself makes it sure to me Pac is real and Pac talked bout real issues

(In an interview)

"WE WERE ASKIN WITH MARTIN LUTHER KING, WE WERE ASKING WITH THE PANTHER, BUT NOW YOU THINK WERE GONNA ASK ANYMORE?....."

Half of his fans are white, so lets see why they like him, same REASON...his deep lyrics....

And YOU SAY NOW HE WOULDNT LAST....HE WOULD EASY...

50 cent is talkin bout candy shops and bein in a club.....Ja Rule Is caught up and Akons locked up...PAC would do BETTER NOW THAN BEFORE...

BEFORE THERE WAS RAPPERS LIKE LL COOL J, SNOOP DOGG (PRIME), DRE, BIGGIE...

So know your shit foo

lol. I hope I'm hope I'm the only one that replies cuz that shit is stupid. Its your opinion. he was a rapper you dumb fuck. it should be that obvious.

he put so much emotion into his lyrics

that was his life, he bled through his pen

but yeah i agree, he's mad overrated for his lyricism

yeah hes overated.. but he has attributes that other rappers dont.. imo.

werrrrd........

Verbal..........................arrrggg..... he was'nt da best(biggie was)....but 10 years from now he'll still be better than you

I agree with you on some points, Tupac was not a real EMCEE...BUT Tupac was a revolutionary, and had the greatest emotion i've ever seen, Tupac was and still is the best at emotion and delivery, hes ONE of the greatest...hes not THE greatest better then everyone else because theres different aspects in emcees (battling,lyrical,flow,delivery,emotion, etc.), you cant say Pac is the absolute greatest over anyone else because rappers/emcees have different styles...you cant choose from Canibus or Tupac because they have different styles...I believe Pac was and still is one of the greatest along with Canibus, Jin, Nas, and Eminem(the old one).

And to the person who said biggie was the best...you're an idiot =/...Biggie's not even on the top 5 list, guys EXTREMELY overated, 110,000 times more then Pac is...and im in NY so its not like im reppin west side...im just tellin it how it is, hes mad overated.

^lol nah not the greatest of all time...but hes one of the last remaining REAL emcees representing Hip Hop...everyone else is in the shadows, except some emcees...maybe like 10-15 i've seen that have been in mainstream before.

u got a point there. i guess i'm a little biased. if it weren't for Pac, i wouldn't be rappin' now. i got love for biggie, but he's not my favorite rapper. i think some of the best lyricists ALIVE(those are the only ones relevant anyway. how a dead man gon' make money?) are:
-Common
-Mos Def
-Nas
-Kanye West

drop some names of cats u feelin' now and i'll check em out

just because he doesn't use big as fuck words doesn't mean he isn't great.

Pac said some real shit and he just said it. He aint say it to be lyrical.
He said it to say it and let people hear him. Only if you don't say shit in your lyrics
would you say that. I would take "you gotta keep ya head up" over
"I'm sicker then aids" anyday. Some people prefer socially relative MC's... me for one.

BTW BIGGE was not even close to being the best. Jeeesh.

the only thing worht reading in this thread......PREACH MAN PREACH

Thats a huge question no one even knows, Suge may have, his views may have got people to hire a hit on him and suge was on in it, what bout the alive factor, i wish to not believe it but there is loadsa clues

verbal shoota is officially a fucking idiot.

DIE!

I wouldn't go as far and label PAc was whack...but he was overrated...and there are people on his dick.

1 sllyable rhyme scheme does not cut it anymore. :nono:

Canibus is 10x's better :thumbup:

I agree btw IF YOU READ THAT BOOK BVY CATHY...summin...THATS ALL WHACK...the autopsy pictures are fake it was found out.....

we could go on for fucking years about tupac......wait we allready have.......... but the truth is he needs to be left to rest.

If you say pac is whack then you need to remove yourself from this website and kill yourself....nuff said

You cant be serious..
Pac did a much better job at making music than most of the morons that do it these days in rap.. If you cant apreciate his tracks for what they are and understand what he was trying to achieve through the influence generated by his mass appealing music, then you are dense.

Any respect he still gets 10 years on from his death, is well deserved. Only herbs that dont see beyond naieve pre-school opinions of rap say pac wasnt any good..

This is a played as fuck argument to start with anyway.

LOL @ Pac's fanbase

he was ok, lyrically he bored me, every song sounded the same unless it was some deep meaningful shit, but most of it was basic rhyming and too much gunplay

Like i said....

Some songs were deep, and reach many people across the black community, but for a start, Pac would not of wanted his music to be in the pop charts, he wanted too reach out to young black folks who are in the struggle, yeah he achieved that, but he didnt need to express his views in every track, it got boring, thats all i'm saying.....

Tupac aint wack..

Tupac = the most overrated rapper yet.

yo thanks for pointin them tracks out lol i hurd picture me rollin and thats amazin.

^True.. 50 Cent = overrated..