Audio heads looking to get signed or anything close to it
 

Just wondering if anyone else here has ANY representation at all? Anyone here spend money to clear samples on the beats you buy? Anyone here got a distrobution deal? Anyone here have a manager? A lawyer? Anybody?

I have a lawyer,but thats simply for court shit...

I dont need anyoen to represent me. I know what I am doing. I know what i want to do with my music. adn i knwo who I am..

Im not deep enough in the game yet to be bothered with that shit, thats were raps downfall is, peopel getting caught up in the buisness side a things and forget aboutt he love for making there music.

so basically, all those people are to rape and pillage you one decimal point at a time...

I think u gotta respect people who know what they're doing...and Lawyers are worth the money...But, as far as that other shit, I think teaching yourself and doing things yourself is the best route.

And I also think INDIE is the best way to go.


So, when I start up my own company, I plan to study on my own and take examples from people who've come before me...ala Masta P, Diddy, Jay

producers allways passin me beats to work on.... plenty contacts as far as people makin mixtapes radio stations etc vgoes promoters u know... erm i am my own manager basically.... id prefer doin it myself so i know no1 dickin me around n tryna rip me off... i dnt trust nobody enuff for dat... im currently workin on a distribution deal and no lawyer.... cnt afford one LOL

this is actually a good thread by dooms... imagine that... lol

nah, but i aint gettin into n e thing too big yet, but recently, since paypah gangs lil squad added me to their team, they get alot of plays and page veiws, so i've had a few producers throwin sum free beats at me... it's nuthin that im makin money off of yet, but 2 of the beatmakers are pretty ill, one is real close w/ b roc, he is tha one im workin w/ rite now... his soundclick is http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pag...m?bandID=257881

i'm lookin forward to fuckin w/ that cat... soon as i get sum of these tracks on a mixtape i'll be makin money... its better than jackin beats nahmean? besides that, i mean, i only been rappin for a lil over a year now, so im not expecting any major deals to fall in my lap, but i aint gonna say n e more, i'll tell more if thys shyt goes thru, i got sumn that mite do me preeeettty good in the mix rite now, should get my info by the end of this week...

BTW, TWISTA heard me rap!




and gave FEEDBACK!

Yo jsut cuz someone gives you free beats dosen't mean the samples are cleared. As a matter of fact, it means the opposite! You go using them and you can EASILY get sued HARD and it definitely aint' uncommon. Let a track with a sampled beat make it to the air (like most of us are aiming to do) or any other media outside of you own CD and you stand a high-ass chance of getting straight up sued hard man.

And being your own manager...how many of you guys have law degrees or even have books on entertainment law? If so, which? Being your own manager = horrible idea and how you get raped on a 5CD term on your first deal.

I'm only suggestin this because we need to A: protect our selves and B: know that majors ain't gonna fuck with you AT ALL till you get em. Shit man, that CD with the photocopied insert goes right in the garbage because they can see immediately that you aren't serious about your music. And that's coming directly form an A/R at Warner.


Omen, why are you still here? Your last buddy on this board finally realized what a waste of life you are. Take that hate shit elsewhere.

^^I agree with that DOoms...if an artist is going mainstream, they DEf. need representation...its like with buying a new car...the avg. person won't understand all the bullshit they throw at them

lol, y do i need freinds on the internet forum that is rapverse? i stand alone man, only way to go... n u sir... are once again an idiot....

cuz who's to say my producers put samples in all their beats? hmmmm, guess ur still a genious rite? u have no idea what ur talkin about, quit tryin to play a&r and telling ppl what they want to hear... muthafucka... ur songs are garbage n ur gonna talk like ur sellin hotcakes... stfu...

firstly UK is different to US...our scene is too small so nobody can afford to rip anybody off in our scene really but i dont trust very easy dats y i cant trust sum1 else bein manager(i mhave my reasons for it).... and rite now im only startin out... if it keeps like it is ill look into one probably untill dat time comes im my own manager... but my mates mum is a solicitor(uks version of a lawyer basically) and is allways willin to vgive advice were i need it so wenever im faced wit a contract... i read it... and afterwards let mher read it and advice me on wat to do or wat not to do..... also most producers send me beats dat arent sampled... totally composed by dem but sampled beats i do recieve... samples are allways cleared by da producer and i ask for proof aswell and follow it up in order to make sure its legit

figures it'd take a true cockcheese liek you to try to ruin a good thread. BTW, for those of us who failed english, I asked if the samples were cleared. Not thta YOU specifically had sampled beats. Reading is fundamental.

pretty healthy way to proceed considering the circumstances. Having a hookup that's a lawyer is definitely helpful - but don't forget about management. There's a big difference between a manager and a lawyer.

dont vget me wrong.. but she provides da advice i need in order to avoid bein fucked over and taught me sooooo much i can usually see loop mholes on my own now wivout askin or see suttin dat could lead to me bein ripped off n wat not... n like i say rite now.. im not lookin for wat manavgers usually do.. i vgot da contacts.. n am bein able to perform were i want etc and im makin my moves to vget noticed.. once im past da point of puttin da name out and lookin at recievin more money for wat i do etc dats wen ill look into a manager.... but rite now i jus dnt feel it necasary

My dad is a lawyer. :bored:

my sis is gonna be one :bored:

I had to clear one sample for my album - got full blessin from the artist I used. Shes a native singer form Arizona. Word. I aint clear it if you cant tell. Like my new beat "on blast" is a tom jones sample - but you cant tell.... so its all good ;)

yea im workin on some things...i gotta few lil connections....

I wanna have more knowledge of the industry before I do like........anything. =/

Phen, well that's a big diff. If no one recognizes it or it's some basic ass music, anyone could say they re-generated it (provided they'd need to show proof if they're legally cited) but vocals and shit man, they come down hard on.

But yeah man, long story short, anyone here who plans to be heard by anyone even remotely important, protect your self before you wreck your self becaue them contracts are straight up rapage. They sign cats on deals they know YOU personally won't make any money on (think TLC who went multiplat and didn't have 30k on them COLLECTIVELY.) and rob you legally. There's management and lawyers out there that do the damn thing the way they should and in your best interest and a lot of us operate illegally and don't evne realize it. Ignorance isn't a legal defense so please man, if you're gonna make music, look into the law. Instead of spending that $ on your equip, spend 30 bucks on an entertainment law book. Just my suggestion.

anything I can help with, lemme know.

The way me & omb are doing it is pressing about 150 copies of our promo cd and I got a a hell of a lot of people that are really supportive of my rap & wanna be part of bigging up my group so my tapes gonna be handed out to a lot of people in a lot of different circles untill were well known on the coast and I'll also be getting our music on a station called Triple J which does promo stuff for up and comming artists & can most likly help with hooking up some good connections once they realise my groups better than 90% of the stuff they usually play from up and comming artists.. Dont need a manager just yet untill OMB is up from sydney so we can work on our act and all that shit & start doing gigs..

I even already know the first label I want to sign to and I know my goals and how to get where I want to be at. I got the shit planned from A to B to C to being the biggest rap group in Australia.. & I also got ambitions outside of rap that I want to achieve with my career but first thing is first.

good shit man. a plan is the first thing needed beforea single step is taken and if you atleast got that then you're off to a good start. Once you plug in the legal aspects of it, you're definitely far better off than someone sho's jsut making music with no real direction for their CD once it's done. I don't know the laws in Austrailia so I def can't speak on em, but GL with that.

PS, watch out for OMB. He's into that....you know....butt stuff....

If anybody gets sued in a civil case, regarding medical injuries.. or if you crash a helicopter and get sued..

My dad has GOT YOUR BACK.

You never know.. so whatever.

yea
my group has managed to jump a couple of steps
i have a manager whos pretty high level in the rap industry...which means she has quite a few big name connections
so once we get a couple tracks we really like, we can get them onto worldwide mixtapes with other mainstream artists...which is mad nice

werrd

:shoot:

well as far as music goes. i make my own beats so i don't have to worry about any of that. manager? not really looking at that yet cause i've only been heard by a few small labels around here. when i get a little bigger than i'll tell my cousin who is a lawyer also.

yeah, but wh I'm saying whi the beats is that if you samlpe it, you can get sued by not clearing the sample. and "clearing" is really jsut asking permission then paying the agreed price. This can get REAL expensive and by that I mean it can reach into the hundredthousands. Just something ot keep in mind man. 1




That's good shit man.

o no..i make my own music from instruments..jus like The Neptunes..so would i still get sued for that? and if you do make it big..about how many people will be part of your "Staff"..like managers and everything.

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straight copy and paste.

I dont have no representative, but readin everyone here, I wish yall good luck with ure audio's im hopin to be at this level soon........

Nah. You cna't get sued for original compositions unless its a melody from some copywritten song or something liek that but the odds of that are slim at best. As far as a 'staff' well the exact number of people is hard to say since who knows how big some of your facilities will be, but you'll need at least one of the following:

• Representation, (usually a manager) they make sure your contract dosen't rape you as much as it would without them.
• A lawyer who is usually gonna be working in tandem with your manager unless your manager is also a lawyer which has it's own ups and downs. But generally they make sure you don't do or say shit that'll get you in legal trouble as best as they can.
• A Road manager if you're touring - this isn't like the normal manager. He just bitch slaps you and makes sure you're at the venues you're supposed to be at in the time frame you're supposed to be there. He also makes sure you don't get dicked for $ on your performance(s). Usually one of the last staff members you'll need.
• An Agent. They book shows and make calls to speak to people that you either A: can not or B: would not. Like with everything in this list, the manager can also assume this role which also has it's ups and downs.
• A/R if you're on anything that resembles a Major Label they're going to assign you an A/R. And A/R is essentially your 'boss' and your father in one. He tells you what to do and what to change about your self in order to become more marketable but (for the most part) he's also acting in your best interest. If you ever wondered why XYZ rapper sounded different after they got signed, the answer is A/R - which stands for Artist and Repitoire btw. They essentially 'build' you.
• Distrobution. Usually the record label takes care of this, but this'll make or break anything you do since this controls where your albums are actually sold and in what markets, the pricepoint threshold etc.
• Publishing. This one isn't a mandatory 'staff' member type thing but I HIGHLY HIGHLY reccomend you go buy your own publishing company. Lets say you release an album and you want it to get spins on every popular radiostation on the eastern seaboard. That promtional CD at every station generates income and when you don't own your publishing rights, that money goes to someone else - 99.9% of the time, your record company. Meaning your voice and your work is bing played on national radio and you get zilch. Companies like Bad Boy get the reputation of Rapin-U-Records because they own a publishing company that lets artists recoup recording costs (essentially, overhead) from publishing royalties that'd otherwise be payable (aka, goign in your pocket) so a huge chunk of the $ you'd see goes down the crapper. This gave countless rappers the sour taste in their mouth about 'the industry'.




you said you weren't gonna post that...:runs off in e-tears that looks like asterik's:

lol word to that. ~_~

damn man how do u kno so much about this? hey wanna be my manageR? ha ha.

^lol, I'll pass on th manager thing, but I know it form going through it and reading up on it to not be unprepared. Gotta know the law mang. Know that shit and you can easily realize when someone's about to screw you, or when you're legally about to screw someone else.