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Ysdat 08-21-05 08:21 PM

as......
 
a underground rapper, do you feel it isnt your right to adresse current world wide issue's not to mention local issues.
or.

are you more concerned with simply impressing people with that candy ass lala land pop rap that seems to be loved by small girls worldwide??

noname 08-21-05 08:23 PM

I rap about what the fuck I feel like......if I wanna rap to impress a bitch..I'ma do it...if I feel like doin some world issue bullshit..I'ma do it.There's no "one type of thing" that I rap about.Cos today I might feel like rapping about something..then the next day I feel differnent.SO I rap about what I feel like....

Tha Q. 08-21-05 08:24 PM

well...I personally never felt rap is the proper avenue to address social issues...

Rap to me is about venting..emotions...

Rappers who attempt to sound "collegiate" on track come off as snotty to me...and 1/2 the time most people don't understand what they're saying anyway...

which brings me to another point...Just because you don't understand something someone says doesn't make them "deep"...it just means you don't understand the bullshit they're spittin...


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Serial 08-21-05 08:26 PM

Nicely put @ Natural Killa.

Exactly how it should be... diversity is where its at. One day you can spit a track that could attract the attention of the governemnt an then the next day make a club banger to make bitches wanna take they clothes off.

Thas what I love about Hip Hop.. the possibilities are endless. You dont have to be held down to one genre or subject.

The whole Underground vs Commercial bullshit is whats ruining Hip Hop, its all Hip Hop... just different styles.

Ysdat 08-21-05 08:28 PM

killer, your in no way making moves or even on the same level as alot of audio heads here. so blah to your comment.

Q, i feel what ya saying, but Im the type who look sat the worlds issues in a diffrent light and want to speak up about it thru my music, but at time I honestly feel it wont be accepted simply because I am an underground artist not yet fully established.


So there is times I will spit lyrical shit to prove my flow,tech,vocab, and all round usage of the beat...but i feel like if I statrt getting deep about lifes issues it wont be accepted.

I unno, I spose I shoudl really say fuck it, spit real from my heart and I cant go wrong.

noname 08-21-05 08:29 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
killer, your in no way making moves or even on the same level as alot of audio heads here. so blah to your comment.

Q, i feel what ya saying, but Im the type who look sat the worlds issues in a diffrent light and want to speak up about it thru my music, but at time I honestly feel it wont be accepted simply because I am an underground artist not yet fully established.


So there is times I will spit lyrical shit to prove my flow,tech,vocab, and all round usage of the beat...but i feel like if I statrt getting deep about lifes issues it wont be accepted.

I unno, I spose I shoudl really say fuck it, spit real from my heart and I cant go wrong.


I'm starting audio soon....so blah right back at you muther fucker :gfy:

Ysdat 08-21-05 08:31 PM

nah, you see your starting audio on the net..props... btu i talking to the nigkahs here who are acctually making proves in the industry and doing somthing off the net.

And dont come at me saying your been making moves blah blah blha, cuase your onyl just starting to do audio on the net.

Serial 08-21-05 08:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
killer, your in no way making moves or even on the same level as alot of audio heads here. so blah to your comment.

Q, i feel what ya saying, but Im the type who look sat the worlds issues in a diffrent light and want to speak up about it thru my music, but at time I honestly feel it wont be accepted simply because I am an underground artist not yet fully established.


So there is times I will spit lyrical shit to prove my flow,tech,vocab, and all round usage of the beat...but i feel like if I statrt getting deep about lifes issues it wont be accepted.

I unno, I spose I shoudl really say fuck it, spit real from my heart and I cant go wrong.

Dont be held back by what people think..

If you feel you wanna address political issues, then do it... I hope you rap for yourself an not just so other think its cool.

People will be able to see the truth, if you rap about gay shit because its cool, people will see it for what its worth. If you wantr to address issues, then do it an speak your mind, dont make it look good, do what sounds right an people will se it for the truth it is.

I like some of that shit but I can tell whos bein real about it an whos not.

noname 08-21-05 08:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
nah, you see your starting audio on the net..props... btu i talking to the nigkahs here who are acctually making proves in the industry and doing somthing off the net.

And dont come at me saying your been making moves blah blah blha, cuase your onyl just starting to do audio on the net.



I'm only 15.....what moves do you expect me to do? :huh:

I think I outta get a lil older don't you think?

Logic The Goonie 08-21-05 08:35 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Natural killa
I rap about what the fuck I feel like......if I wanna rap to impress a bitch..I'ma do it...if I feel like doin some world issue bullshit..I'ma do it.There's no "one type of thing" that I rap about.Cos today I might feel like rapping about something..then the next day I feel differnent.SO I rap about what I feel like....

And I actually agree. =/

The only thing is, right now I wanna do some songs that I can perform/do at a show. Cuz right now I don't have that. I wanna get out and start makin moves but my songs can't do that.........yet.

Ysdat 08-21-05 08:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Juss 0ne
Dont be held back by what people think..

If you feel you wanna address political issues, then do it... I hope you rap for yourself an not just so other think its cool.

People will be able to see the truth, if you rap about gay shit because its cool, people will see it for what its worth. If you wantr to address issues, then do it an speak your mind, dont make it look good, do what sounds right an people will se it for the truth it is.

I like some of that shit but I can tell whos bein real about it an whos not.


yeh word.

I rap for me, but you gotta be realistic,,the game is cut throat..you either accepted or not.

but acceptance will come naturally if your dope, i dont feel i have to push to be accepted, Im'a just do me, continue making tracks.

its just the shit i been making recently, has just been filled with lyrical content with a slight message involved. But I want to get simple on a track and simply say what the fucks boiling up in my brain.

Tha Q. 08-21-05 08:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
killer, your in no way making moves or even on the same level as alot of audio heads here. so blah to your comment.

Q, i feel what ya saying, but Im the type who look sat the worlds issues in a diffrent light and want to speak up about it thru my music, but at time I honestly feel it wont be accepted simply because I am an underground artist not yet fully established.


So there is times I will spit lyrical shit to prove my flow,tech,vocab, and all round usage of the beat...but i feel like if I statrt getting deep about lifes issues it wont be accepted.

I unno, I spose I shoudl really say fuck it, spit real from my heart and I cant go wrong.



and u have a right to use ur music for that...it's personal I guess...I choose to use music as a different avenue...


if I wanted to address social issues, I'd write an essay.



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Ysdat 08-21-05 08:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
and u have a right to use ur music for that...it's personal I guess...I choose to use music as a different avenue...


if I wanted to address social issues, I'd write an essay.



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If I was to make a song adresseing it and it be liked, then it would have an effect.

if you were to write an essay just for the sake of writing one and not acctually be wanting a effect out of it.then it would be pointless.

I just feel rap is all about, creating change,venting your anger..and freedom of speech.

KOOL COL-B 08-21-05 08:42 PM

i rap alot about killin babys and skool shootins, cuz that shits funny 2 me n alot of ppl round here, LOL, werd

Tha Q. 08-21-05 08:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
If I was to make a song adresseing it and it be liked, then it would have an effect.

if you were to write an essay just for the sake of writing one and not acctually be wanting a effect out of it.then it would be pointless.

I just feel rap is all about, creating change,venting your anger..and freedom of speech.



^^^I agree with the last part...I personally feel music and all art should be visceral more than appealing to the logic...it should appeal to the soul...and I imagine you could do that while addressing issues such as racism and homophobia...so..yea...I feel wut ur sayin...I guess I wud jus have to be interested in the "cause" I was rappin about...not jus doin it cuz it was what's expected

Ysdat 08-21-05 08:50 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
I guess I wud jus have to be interested in the "cause" I was rappin about...not jus doin it cuz it was what's expected



yeh, i have a strong interest in rap and social issues. So i just assumed Im suppose to intertwine the two together. Simply becuase thats me,thats what Im about.


But what Im tryna get at is......... will the industyr accept a no name mc speakign so deep and direct abotu shit without being labeled a wanna-B malcom X or a wanna B huey newton, a wanna B 2 pac.. Even though my approach to the issues are nothing like theres, I got my own veiw and own words to say....but I feel thats what any person who speaks out is labeled as.

Serial 08-21-05 09:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
yeh word.

I rap for me, but you gotta be realistic,,the game is cut throat..you either accepted or not.

but acceptance will come naturally if your dope, i dont feel i have to push to be accepted, Im'a just do me, continue making tracks.

its just the shit i been making recently, has just been filled with lyrical content with a slight message involved. But I want to get simple on a track and simply say what the fucks boiling up in my brain.

Yo take Mobb Deep for example..

these guys have been less known for the longest time, I mean they been dope since day one, recognized by the real Hip Hop fans.. its taken them forever but finally they sign with 50. Most people think they sellin out but they gettin noticed an they still doin shit their own way an I know their next CD will be sick.

But they always stayed true to their own shit, they aint doin adidas commercial, faces on cereal boxes, they kept it real an now they gonna be recognized by everyone.

Its not relevant but this one bitch asked if I heard of that new group that singed with G-Unit an called them Mod Deep. Fuckin dumb birds piss me off lol.

But yeah, keep it real an your time will come.. the quote in my sig applies nicely to this thread.

Your suppose to rap about what you know, sotry tellin is the only exception but make it known its a story an dont say the stories about you lol.

If what you know is politics, get your shit out there, maybe people need to know what you know, you might have somethin worth listenin to.. an if you hold back cause of commercialism, then thas sellin out in a different way, namsayin?

Keep it real, if you dont make millions atleast you can say you kept it real the entire time.

Tha Q. 08-21-05 09:54 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Juss 0ne
Yo take Mobb Deep for example..

these guys have been less known for the longest time, I mean they been dope since day one, recognized by the real Hip Hop fans.. its taken them forever but finally they sign with 50. Most people think they sellin out but they gettin noticed an they still doin shit their own way an I know their next CD will be sick.

But they always stayed true to their own shit, they aint doin adidas commercial, faces on cereal boxes, they kept it real an now they gonna be recognized by everyone.

Its not relevant but this one bitch asked if I heard of that new group that singed with G-Unit an called them Mod Deep. Fuckin dumb birds piss me off lol.

But yeah, keep it real an your time will come.. the quote in my sig applies nicely to this thread.



So, being on a Wheaties box and selling addidas means ur not being "real"? I don't see it as that. If Mobb Deep isn't known, that's Mobb Deep's fault.



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Serial 08-21-05 09:57 PM

I just picked stereotypes for sellin out.

Mobb Deep isnt appreciated for what they are because of what they rap about... I mean they keep it real gutter an that doesnt apply to little girls or whatevrr, Im jus sayin cause it sounds like he wants to make it big without rappin about shit like NElly an all them.

∆ P E X X 08-21-05 09:57 PM

I chose that second option, but who here is an underground rapper? This shit's sub-underground.

Ysdat 08-21-05 10:04 PM

I feel im underground..but not while im here.. i dont even class this site as anything to do with the industry, this is simply coneections and education on certain things to me.

but werd to juss one's sig.
Ive come to the conclusion im'a do what the fuck I like, in my own style with my own expressions and opinions cause I know its goign to be effective.

Ranks™ 08-21-05 10:07 PM

I feel I have to fucking rap.

Type of question was this.

Ysdat 08-21-05 10:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranks™
I feel I have to fucking rap.

Type of question was this.


So your saying, you feel like you dont have to plan shit thru, think about whos going to be hearing it and acctually make it relevant to them.

Oh yeh, im talkign about off the net aswell. This is all eralevant to the net life. Im saying, My mixtape for me is make or break, im making it in a studio, not with cool edit or any other self production bullshit. So its make or break, i cant go in there and be casual abotu what Im goign to make.. Im serious about my career in rap, so Ill go there serious and lay seriously dope tracks...

Ranks™ 08-21-05 11:26 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
So your saying, you feel like you dont have to plan shit thru, think about whos going to be hearing it and acctually make it relevant to them.

Oh yeh, im talkign about off the net aswell. This is all eralevant to the net life. Im saying, My mixtape for me is make or break, im making it in a studio, not with cool edit or any other self production bullshit. So its make or break, i cant go in there and be casual abotu what Im goign to make.. Im serious about my career in rap, so Ill go there serious and lay seriously dope tracks...

When I make a mixtape, I'm not trying to get my music out to a certain group of ppl, I want my shit felt by everyone, I'm aiming to plz ppl like you, but I also gotta plz the chicken heads and the niggas. (No homo).

Blay'all 08-21-05 11:49 PM

im not an underground rapper....
I'm mainstream sucka :shoot:

La Cosa Nostra 08-22-05 12:09 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
a underground rapper, do you feel it isnt your right to adresse current world wide issue's not to mention local issues.
or.

are you more concerned with simply impressing people with that candy ass lala land pop rap that seems to be loved by small girls worldwide??


To an extent, impressing people is a big priority in making good rap music. I dont rap about many political issues because I would rather my music outlast currant world news..

An insightful and very true quote I remember goes like this.
"A great mind discusses ideas, a smart mind discusses world events & a weak mind discusses people."

Ofcourse this isnt the thought pattern for most rappers, but I'm not most rappers. & Although underground music can be really dope at times, its not an amazingly good goal or ambition to become an underground artist. But youll find most of them carry certain flaws that prevents them from going big time..

You have to know what people want to listen to and mold it into your own style or your career will go nowhere. Thats how the industry works and a lot of weak rappers get an easy run because their shit is so simple people understand it better. Thats where lyricism has its faults and I could go on for ages about the sort of stratigys that run through my head to counter attack this problem, but its best people make up their own ways of dealing with things like that.


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