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Tha Q. 08-22-05 10:17 AM

How beef/rumors start in the industry...
 
let's stop for a minute and remember that rap stars that have larger-than-life personas are still people, and at one time were "regular" people. So, many of these "beefs" and "rumors" we see and hear about have a base and some starting point. I actually sat back and thought about how and why some of these beefs and rumors can form. Well, here's what I concluded.


#1Take the incident with me and Omen. Neither of us are "signed", nor is it my personal goal to be signed. However, before he started going-off on this "I'm with this label now" trip, he and I were thinking about starting our own thing. Then, he jumped onto the current project he's on. Human nature should tell you that even though I'm not sweating it really, there would be feelings of resentment and abandonment. This is one way beef starts in the rap industry. Let's say Omen and I both "make it" in the industry in our own way, there will always been that animosity between us because of something so simple. That's the nature of beef; it NEVER really has a point.


#2...Gay rumors in the industry. There have always been rumors that this or that person is "gay" or "lesbian" in the industry. Well, where there's smoke there's fire people. Many of the rumors have bases. Take for instance the situation between me and Triple N where he and I used to talk nasty to each other, over AIM and on the phone. Now, I know what I said and I know what he said. So, if either of us ever "made it" and that came out, of course it'll seem like LIES and INNUENDO because of the Larger-than-life images. Truth is, what I said DID happen. Triple and I had cyber sex on many occasions. But, he has reason to deny. It's all about image. So, this is how rumors can get started in the industry. People have claimed that Diddy is bisexual and that Mase was his lover. Some people say Ja Rule is bi. Don't always dismiss these as publicity stunts. Like I said, where there is smoke there is fire.



#3...For those of you who say the I-net doesn't mean shit and is pointless, think again. Eminem had beef with cats because they were saying shit ON THE INTERNET! So, all this shit talking that we all like to do now can easily come back to haunt any one of us. Let's say two people on RV who hate each other's guts "make it" and end up at the same awards show. There's def. gonna be animosity there because of the hate they had for each other on the net. Words are words people. It doesn't matter if they are uttered on the net, the phone, or in person. They do their damage. So, this is another way beef starts in the industry.



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Dirty Nigga 08-22-05 10:21 AM

Word Q....

apparently Canibus stole rhymes from the internet when he was beefing with LL Cool J.....

but i understand what your saying, Beef always starts with rumours, but the rumours that surround artists must have some truth in them....or they would never have been started.

L. Veracity 08-22-05 10:40 AM

damn, didn't know that Cannibus info.

but yeah ya'll are both correct, but the best way to put it would be how ThaQ. said it...

"where there's smoke, there's fire"...

no rumor gains life wthout there being SOME kind of truth to it, but the fuel is added by speculation alone...

far as niggas in the industry being gay, personally I think all the ones talkin' about sex all the tyme and FUCKin' madd chicks ends up gay, you can only have pussy so many ways and once you have it different ways so many times, it gets old and niggas wants something new, a guy...but that's just MY opinion, I know most of you will disagree with it completely...

La Cosa Nostra 08-22-05 12:28 PM

I doubt that shit about triple is all true..

But then.........I dont know the dude THAT well..:wtf:

Tha Q. 08-22-05 01:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
I doubt that shit about triple is all true..

But then.........I dont know the dude THAT well..:wtf:



You don't have to believe it. That doesn't make it not true. There are definitely two sides to every story. But, like I said, where there is smoke there is fire.

**And NOS, I find it easy to believe that people find it HARD to believe anyone who is kinda thugged out could be gay/bi/whatever...So you deny the shit...

this is why I give a big MIDDLE FINGER to YOu or whoever look at my sexuality before my ability to rap...


nuff said...

the omen 08-22-05 01:08 PM

q.... first off, i thought i told u to keep my name out of ur mouth boy.... n trip would slap tha black off your face if he heard u talkin all this bullshyt... wen are u gonna realize ppl think all ur threads are pointless jibber jabber? lol, sorry that i get a group that wants me to join... i even told u that iwas still down to make a lil netgroup, but u had to take it the wrong way n get ur feelings hurt... y do u post up ur problems? and fake shyt about ppl?

Tha Q. 08-22-05 01:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by the omen
q.... first off, i thought i told u to keep my name out of ur mouth boy.... n trip would slap tha black off your face if he heard u talkin all this bullshyt... wen are u gonna realize ppl think all ur threads are pointless jibber jabber? lol, sorry that i get a group that wants me to join... i even told u that iwas still down to make a lil netgroup, but u had to take it the wrong way n get ur feelings hurt... y do u post up ur problems? and fake shyt about ppl?



I have no reason to lie...ur speakin out of ignorance...I don't care bout no net group...I was making a point.

So don't blow this thread out of proportion...the Trip situation occurred a year ago...I just used it as an example of how Gay Rumors in the industry can get started...And my point is, don't always blow them off as lies because I know 1st hand that not everything that sounds unbelievable IS A LIE.

PS...Can you have a conversation without it sounding like you're blowing a gasket?

pssf

the omen 08-22-05 01:16 PM

im not blowing a gasget.. i just think its retarded taht all u have to do all day as a 23 year old man, is post up why u have beef w/ internet kids.... and make up rumors about ppl being gay... c'mon yo, trip? gay? gay ppl talk w/ lisps n have high voices... usually u can tell wen sum1 is gay by their voice... i aint never heard of a deeeeeepp ass voiced gangsta homo.... i mean, karamo is the closest i've seen... n even he was almost predicatble... just stop whining about ppl aight? find sumn productive... go drop another track n up it 20 tiems... cool

Tha Q. 08-22-05 01:21 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by the omen
im not blowing a gasget.. i just think its retarded taht all u have to do all day as a 23 year old man, is post up why u have beef w/ internet kids.... and make up rumors about ppl being gay... c'mon yo, trip? gay? gay ppl talk w/ lisps n have high voices... usually u can tell wen sum1 is gay by their voice... i aint never heard of a deeeeeepp ass voiced gangsta homo.... i mean, karamo is the closest i've seen... n even he was almost predicatble... just stop whining about ppl aight? find sumn productive... go drop another track n up it 20 tiems... cool



^^yet another example of how you're speaking out of ignorance...c'mon...taking the easy road to cheap shots? Someone's voice has nothing to do with their sexuality...But, since you seem to know so much about it, just HOW MANY gay people have you been around to determine this?

See, I have gay friends and been in environments with many gay people. And, I know for a fact that most of them have voices like anyone else...So, that's an ignorant and a moot point. Stop...you're quick to quote people's ages, and yet you yourself aren't a lil child but act more childish than damn near anyone who posts on RV.

I can't make someone gay by saying, "THEY ARE GAY." So, stop being the insecure CLOSET CASE that you are and educate yourself.

You are ignorant.


PERIOD.

.Barz Of Steel. 08-22-05 01:35 PM

Triple N=Owned...........

Tha Q. 08-22-05 01:37 PM

OH...and P.S. Karamo was FARRRRRRRRrrrrrrr from a Homo Thug...I know Homo Thugs...and He's as effiminate as you are Omen...in fact, I'm not being funny, but you're kinda prissy Omen...You remind me of the type of gay guy that gives fashion advice n shit...

I know the type...

kid...I will blow your shit wide open if you keep runnin ya mouth...

are u gonna deny Omen that you told me on AIM that u had thoughts of what givin ORAL to a guy would be like?

Of course u are...I got no reason to lie

u and I BOTH KNOW ur a LOSER and full of shit.

∆ P E X X 08-22-05 01:46 PM

so this whole thread is about who YOU have beefs and arguments with? What a waste. Get a life man, fuck.

Tha Q. 08-22-05 01:50 PM

PS 2 OMEN...I ain't ya boy...

u got me fucked up kid


smackin black off my face? so u a racist now?

dun let me find out...I'll get yo ugly Screech lookin ass booted off this site so fast u'll forget ur wack ass was ever on it.

PrahJect 08-22-05 02:00 PM

Ok this is my take on things, Omen:

Youre bagging on Q for his age, however youre not too young youreslelf, maybe not the same age as Q but still not at an age to think hes got no time on his hand..........

Next thing, your comment bout gay people having high voices and lisps, is completely discriminitative, that shit you said is prejudging and not how all gay people are. Q is a homosexual but he sounds "normal", many gay people sound "normal", jus because on comedy shows and TV's, you see them protrayed as high voiced, lisped people, then you need to broaden youre horizon and stop watchin those shows.....

The shit with Triple N, I dont know much about, as Q said 2 sides to a story, Triple may come and deny it, but if it was true I dont look at Triple less than he is, and neither Q, I actually look at Q with much more respect since he has the maturity to say sumthing like this to people like you who would respond with stupid, uneducated comments

Next point you called Tha Q a "boy", I just hope you werent being racist because then me and you got a problem "homie"

Overall:

Omen from the posts Ive seen you make id think youre younger than me and im 14, youre 19 right?...and your posts like "Gay People have high pitched voices" "Triple has a deep voice so hes not gay" "Triple would slap the black outta you" "BOY"

All this shit is uneducated, immature and summing a 12 yr old might think of saying without trying to sound childish, Youre music is pretty good, but ure attitude and lack of maturity isnt, so I guess thats what I gotta say

Young Drama 08-22-05 05:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.




#2...Gay rumors in the industry. There have always been rumors that this or that person is "gay" or "lesbian" in the industry. Well, where there's smoke there's fire people. Many of the rumors have bases. Take for instance the situation between me and Triple N where he and I used to talk nasty to each other, over AIM and on the phone. Now, I know what I said and I know what he said. So, if either of us ever "made it" and that came out, of course it'll seem like LIES and INNUENDO because of the Larger-than-life images. Truth is, what I said DID happen. Triple and I had cyber sex on many occasions. But, he has reason to deny. It's all about image. So, this is how rumors can get started in the industry. People have claimed that Diddy is bisexual and that Mase was his lover. Some people say Ja Rule is bi. Don't always dismiss these as publicity stunts. Like I said, where there is smoke there is fire.




Very Very Sick Shit................................

Whys That? 08-22-05 05:50 PM

omen sig = he has to force us to listen to his music cause we certainly wouldnt choose to hear it.

as for the beef, beef is certain any were and every were.. talking turns it into more than it is and creates alot of bullshit around it.

PrahJect 08-22-05 07:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by @.
omen sig = he has to force us to listen to his music cause we certainly wouldnt choose to hear it.



LMAO...thats what i was annoyed at

the omen 08-22-05 08:11 PM

^i only see alot of homo Q dick ryders that are 14... n im spose to give a fuck cuzzz... Y? lol, i already made a thread asking if my player annoyed ppl.. not 1 person said it did... so as far as that goes... off tha nuts u middle skoolers... lol yes i am 19... i dont plan on still being at rv wen im 23... u dont kno me... Q, i didnt mean any type of real disrepsect... u were tha one comin at me the other day sayin how u wanted us too b cool again... but i wouldnt except ur shyt cuz u went personal on me... now u wanna complain that im goin personal? lol pleez. for once i cant agree more w/ dooms... Q has been on rv's nuts, all i ever see is Q threads... yet his own crew wants him off of the roster hahaha... n as for me being racist? lol, im not even gonna adress that, i only hope you're kidding.... lol... everything taht comes out of ur mouth is nothing more than 23 years of a homo oppressed from the feelings of being "normal" so... i tend to blow u off cuz although i am far from "normal" i can deal w/ my shyt without having to post threads up of who hurts my feelings 4 times a day... lol

the omen 08-22-05 08:12 PM

o yea...

omen= makin moves...reguardless to what YOU beleive

Q and his dickryders = stayin on rv hatin on good ppl cuz they cant be them....

Tha Q. 08-22-05 08:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by the omen
^i only see alot of homo Q dick ryders that are 14... n im spose to give a fuck cuzzz... Y? lol, i already made a thread asking if my player annoyed ppl.. not 1 person said it did... so as far as that goes... off tha nuts u middle skoolers... lol yes i am 19... i dont plan on still being at rv wen im 23... u dont kno me... Q, i didnt mean any type of real disrepsect... u were tha one comin at me the other day sayin how u wanted us too b cool again... but i wouldnt except ur shyt cuz u went personal on me... now u wanna complain that im goin personal? lol pleez. for once i cant agree more w/ dooms... Q has been on rv's nuts, all i ever see is Q threads... yet his own crew wants him off of the roster hahaha... n as for me being racist? lol, im not even gonna adress that, i only hope you're kidding.... lol... everything taht comes out of ur mouth is nothing more than 23 years of a homo oppressed from the feelings of being "normal" so... i tend to blow u off cuz although i am far from "normal" i can deal w/ my shyt without having to post threads up of who hurts my feelings 4 times a day... lol



let's get 1 thing str8...I don't wanna be you nor anyone else on RV


#2...I came to u sincerely wanting a truce...But, you made it clear you want to hold grudges...that's fine...But, instead of being "mature" and just agreeing to disagree, you come in my thread where I was talking about my new job hating. So, you don't have legs to stand on there.


I have nothing to do with your success or lack thereof.


racist? i dunno...but Imma grown ass man...all that "boy shit" and "knock da black off u" ern necessary.


and yes, ur music player is annoying because u post in every fucking thread and it interferes with my own shit I got playing.

the omen 08-22-05 08:25 PM

^then u press that big button that looks like a square.... its called the "stop" button i think...lol

Tha Q. 08-22-05 08:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by the omen
^then u press that big button that looks like a square.... its called the "stop" button i think...lol



yea well..the problem there is, when u post in a thread more than once, u have to press STOP on all the players



ugh

the omen 08-22-05 08:35 PM

well u should be happy, usualy ur tellin me how much u wanna go out n "push in" all these "squares".... so y u gonna be sad now? lol

Tha Q. 08-22-05 08:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by the omen
well u should be happy, usualy ur tellin me how much u wanna go out n "push in" all these "squares".... so y u gonna be sad now? lol



yea...sure



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Tha Q. 08-22-05 08:48 PM

PS...My crew don't want me?

Hmm...Let's review the facts...

Dooms went to Tito to get me removed...Tito basically said...STFU.


Phenom is a Jesus Freak who doesn't like Homosexuals...FUCK HIM.


That leaves Jae Gutta, L.E., Enyg, 7/3, Fluid, TONY...and a few others who I'm supposedly "cool with"

If any one of them is talkin bout me behind my back, that makes them the BITCH...

not I...

why are my "friends" turnin on me?..It's simple. My "friends" aren't turnin on me...They were NEVER my "friends" to begin with and I don't take SHIT off nobody.

case closed

OH...and I'm out OYD...I finally decided to leave dat bullshit behind

a crew full of
1)Know it alls
2) Bigots
3) Closet Cases
4)Wanna be Emcees
5) Assholes

Q said IT

PRINT IT

SELL IT

who gives a shit


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