Eminem fake or not?
 

Source: Metro Times Detroit

The Todd Nelson Show

“You can’t miss it, it’s the only house with a 35-foot RV in front of it,” Todd Nelson says of the house in Warren belonging to Eminem’s grandmother. It’s where Nelson and his son now live.

It’s also where Marshall Mathers lived on and off for the three years he failed to pass ninth grade at Lincoln High. He dropped out and devoted his time first to being a graphic artist and then as a rapper with his first group, Sole Intent. Nelson, brother of Eminem’s mother Debbie (who’s changed her name from Mathers-Briggs back to Nelson), is eager to tell “the truth” about his nephew, “that everything he says about his past is fabricated.”

“He’s my nephew, but I call him my ‘F.U.’ I don’t like fake people,” Nelson says. “His movie shouldn’t be called 8 Mile — it should be called ‘26 Mile’!”

With his broad, round eyes and scooped-up nose, Nelson’s family resemblance to Em is staggering.

A burly ex-con with liver cancer caused by hepatitis C, Nelson isn’t looking to cash in off his famous nephew. He routinely gives out pages of Em’s early lyric sheets, “even though they’re worth about $1,000 apiece on the Internet.”

In the bungalow’s living room are snapshots of the rapper with family members interspersed with Confederate flags and other bric-a-brac that speaks to Eminem’s Southern roots in St. Joseph. Mo., where Marshall was born.

Nelson claims Eminem has made a cottage industry out of tapping into a reverse Oedipal complex of mother-bashing.

“Every white male regardless of his age has something against their mother, and he’s exploiting that, so all these white males can throw themselves a pity party,” Nelson says. “He tried bashing blacks and fags and when that didn’t work he started bashing his mother.”

In an attempt to prove his point, Nelson plays a tape from an early Detroit radio freestyle Em performed called “Word To Allah,” in which he repeatedly uses the word “N*GGER.”
“And listen — he sends out love to his mother,” Nelson says.

It’s not the most convincing argument that Em was once a mother-loving racist, especially coming from a guy who spent some of Em’s key developmental years, from 1992 to 1998, in prison for manslaughter.

Nelson portrays Debbie as an overwhelmed single parent under intense pressure — not unlike Eminem himself, which may explain why he acts so hateful toward Mom: She reminds him of himself.

Nelson recounts Eminem’s childhood. “His dad Bruce made wood veneer, you know, that they put on tables. They were married, but he moved to South Dakota. Debbie had nowhere to go. Her dad rejected her. She could’ve stayed there in St. Joe, where Marshall would’ve had no chance — people pick up aluminum cans and sell bait down there. But she decided to do it alone, and brought Marshall up North. She was overwhelmed. I remember her standing in the doorway of our mother’s house. I was like, ‘What are you gonna do? Come in or stay out.’ It was the wintertime, and she had that look in her eyes — she was so lost.”

Nelson doesn’t excuse his sister’s parenting, but he does say Debbie did the best she could.

“She ran a cab company — Classic Cab, she went to beauty school … She moved around a lot like everybody else,” he offers. “But I remember Marshall in Kmart when he was 8 years old throwing down his toys, throwing a fit until Debbie got him the Skeletor toy or comic book or whatever. And she’d get it for him — she’d write a bad check if she had to. He got his way.

“Listen, Marshall had a roof over his head until he was 26 — my sister gave him my grandmother’s trailer on 26 Mile — and he couldn’t even take care of it. I got the tickets around here somewhere — he got tickets for not mowing the grass.”

Nelson puts three light blue Lincoln High notebooks on the kitchen table. They provide a vivid glimpse of young Marshall Mathers. There’s a flubbed psychology test, its “D+” grade changed to an “A+” with a different color pen. In a yellow folder with cut-out pictures of Arrested Development and Salt ‘N’ Pepa there are the first scribblings of a young lyricist: “Let me introduce my band a gypsies … all of us hipper than hippies … I should go I take MCs on a joy ride and make ‘em dizzy as blonds/ I could rap around the world three times like vines/All in the same day but I don’t take planes/But if you wanna get nuts like a squirrel/We can take it to the stage and Ima shake it like a white girl.” Elsewhere, “you’res” are changed to “y’all” and “yo”’s added between words. There is the original flier for the “M&M” graphic design — with his mother’s phone number.

“C’mon, he had it rough? Where do you think he did that? His mother’s house!” Nelson says.

From these first raw etchings of “M&M” before he was Eminem and Slim Shady, it all seems kind of, well, innocent. Vulnerable, even. Someone who’s had the rug pulled out from under them is going to be more traumatized than somebody who never knew there was a rug.

Despite the heartbreak, Marshall, Nelson says, was too sheltered to end up a criminal.

Before he became a sensation, “The only trouble he got into with police was for shooting paintball guns on Woodward,” says Nelson, referring to when Em and a friend were picked up for shooting paintball guns at hookers in Detroit. It’s more the work of a prankster than a thug.

If anything, says Nelson, young Marshall lived vicariously through his uncle Ronnie, Todd and Debbie’s younger brother, who was Marshall’s age and who committed suicide.

“Ronnie was the one with the rough childhood — living out of garbage cans off the streets, being rejected by his dad. And then when my little brother died, Marshall went and got his name tattooed on him. But Ronnie didn’t even like Marshall,” Nelson says. “I got the last letter he ever wrote before he killed himself and he doesn’t even mention Marshall.”

Underneath the wannabe street survivor image of Slim Shady, says Nelson, was a mama’s boy.

“When he got in trouble with the gun [for pistol-whipping a man he caught with Kim in 2000] his mother was in Missouri. He called her to fly up here as fast as she could,” Nelson says.

Em’s gunplay could have landed him in prison for five years for felonious assault, but he copped to a reduced charge of carrying a concealed weapon and was placed on probation.

The phone rings. It’s Debbie. I ask if I can speak with her, but she tells her brother she can’t talk. Nelson says it’s part of a “contract … to keep her mouth shut … about the fake movie he’s got.”

Nelson apparently believes that Em is trying to pass off 8 Mile as authentic biography, which he isn’t.

Despite his resentment over Em’s treatment of his sister, Nelson does offer details of their relationship these days. He says Mathers is buying his mother a new RV.

“Why? To keep her mouth shut!” Nelson bellows. “He’s basically told her that if she keeps her mouth shut, he’ll take care of her. Why would I lie? I can’t stand that bitch half the time. But I’m not gonna have some son of a b*tch sit and lie, even if it’s her own kid. But I guess as long as he’s making money and taking care of her, that’s cool with me.”


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dam poor ponnie that sucks...


but im not sure bout the ronnnie didint like em thing lol

OK...I actually read it all...
And...

Seems to me this Nelson guy is mad that emimem ripped his sister to shreds.Eminem neva said that 8 mile was his biography...he said some was fiction n some was factual.

"And then when my little brother died, Marshall went and got his name tattooed on him. But Ronnie didn’t even like Marshall,” Nelson says. “I got the last letter he ever wrote before he killed himself and he doesn’t even mention "

^^this part really hit me....that was cold..to say his uncle didn't like him..

About that tape where eminem said he loves his mother...he may have loved her in the past..but then some other shit happen...you never know...

And I think there is truth in the article...but I mean..does it matter...eminem makes good music..that's it..he could be fake or not..doesn't matter.

Dude named nelson just tryna get a lil publisicity....jelousy's a bitch...

i think hes just mad at eminem for sumthing he did or because he gots lots of money and shit...iuno

well....yea...he may not be in this for money as I read it ova n he was givin away lryics for free that's worth money.But I mean...he must want some publicity or sumtin

"A burly ex-con with liver cancer caused by hepatitis C, "

^^well...it's obvious his life's a failure n he must be a lil unhappy...so to see his nephew go above him like that must make him pissed a lil bit.

As for that 8 mile thing..I don't know..but the article says eminem did get in trouble for paintball shooting..so that's proof there is some factual in the movie.
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And all this info..why wouldn't his mother come out the dark n say this shit a long time ago?A new RV wouldn't make up for all the shit Eminem said about her.There's gotta be a lil bullshit in here..

man this is cold................yeah he's juss tryna to get sum attention but to have your own uncle not like thats fucked up...man...but hey lifes a btich sumtimes

and you know....8 mile may have just been used as the title for the movie by the directors/producer's request....cuz it has more of a ring to it than 26 mile.

yo Nat hows things been going i dropped Trigga Town

LoL....Damn....well i guess you proved me wrong....eminem is a liar...

but he still makes good music...so he's still cool.




Good move...it's only a mattter of time till trigga town dies...smart decison man :thumbup:

man........im a big eminem fan...but then again even if he did say he grew up on 8mile

at least he did'nt make up a whole bunch of shit.....like he was king of the hood or sumthing...
where u come from should'nt really efect your career...and why did dude come out and say all this now


how come he did'nt say anyhting as soon as Em got his big break..

Eminem Aint Doing Nothing.. Ne Other Rapper Isnt Doing.... Hip Hop/Rap Main Stream Is 100% Fake.. Underground Is Where The Reality Is

You Here Rappers.. Talking About Drugs ( And Some Of Them Dont Even Do Them, Yet Some Do ).. Thats Why I Respect People Like Tupac.. ( Even Tho Hes Dead ) And Nas.. There Bout The Realest.. Ive Seen..I Knew From The Get Go Em Was Fake... But He Backed It Up

Only Thing Em Has Been Right About.. Is Being A Drug Addicts.. He Was Checked Into Rehab A Couple Weeks Ago.. Dont No If He Still There

you eminem dick riders are so gay. Eminem is fake as shit. A southern whiteboy with pure white roots goin back to the time of slavery and had a nice upbringing. and I might add that the dude is an averrage MC at the most and because of all the DR's he has people who are whitey rich shit who listin to shit mike jones or nelly think eminems the best of all time when the homo couldnt go more then two albums with out completely flopping. so fuck eminem, fuck his gay ass movie where he spit pre-written verses to actors who arnt even rappers and i might add that his freestyles were wack! Fuck Eminem, i hope that faggot dies.

And were on eminem's dick you say?And eminem is not a southern rapper.Do you even know where detroit is?It's in middle america.And why are you bringing up slavery n shit.Is it eminem's fault about what is ancestors did centuries ago?U can't hold a grudge on him for that.If you were to hold a grudge on everyone for what there ancestors then..then you would hate all white people..which would make you a blatant racist.And not all of eminem's fans are rich people who listen to mike jones n shit.Take this site for example..we all hate mike jones n shit..but like eminem..so your wrong about that part.2 albums without flopping you say..well i assume u mean SSLP n MMLP..but what about infinite?Eminem show wasn't exactly a flop.it is still...by all means..a good album.Encore is the flop.But who's to say em doesn't make a quality album next.And his movie..now how do you know it was pre-written?And if it was ...so fuckin what?Would you make a movie and actually free-style there?I doubt it.and so what if the people were actors n not really rappers..makes no fuckin difference.And then at the end..you say you wish that he dies.It seems to me that your just on his dick and hates him for what he accomplished.

OK first off were havin a conversation and argument and there no hate in this to you just to clear this up.

Yea i know where detroit is , but he's really from MO, a red neck state.
Second off SSLP and MMLP ......sslp: what was unique about it was that he came with some newer things to the mainstream...cooler ways to kill people on wax the subject matter was pretty deranged but in a good way. MMLP: now hes mad popular but is funny now, he now goes back on everything that happend since he came out. ES: this album is where is crap, he start the singing shit which is annoying, the subject matter is now repetitive nothing new, we now hes white, we know he loves his daughter and hates his wife. getting boring.ENcore: straight up garbage commercial shit...Nothing more to say


Now i also aint gettin why so many think hes such an amazing lyricist, like i said he was bring new content when he first came out but hes way repetitive and his flow aint even that great lots of his lines are inconsistent some of the times.

and also eminem was always making money even when he wasnt too bad...so why would he just outta no where turn to in the club and pop bullshit when he'd be making money either way??

OK..the reason for me sayin that it was hate was becuz you were sayin things like you hope he dies n shit.And he is missousri...but he grew up in Detroit.As the famous term entrenched by Rakim says..."it ain't where you from,it's where you at".Detriot was what made eminem the person he is today as it was where he started rappin n shit.And as for the eminem show..i guess it's ur opinion.I wasn't to keen on Halie's song myself....but there were some dope tracks on there.Like Soldier,White America,Sing for the moment,Till I collapse..shit like that.And eminem show was the album that launched the pinnacle of eminem's carreer.2002 is the best year eminem has had ever.Eminem show is a decent album.MAy have flopped in the eyes of some..but that's cuz of the mind-blowing expectations.I agree that encore was shit.And what about infinite?His flow's pretty good too when you compare it to the rest of these cats in the game today.And 99% of time..when people say eminem is an amazing lyrisist...it's cuz they referring to his previous work.And when eminem was bad..i assume you mean his underground days?And no..he didn't make money at that time.He stated himself that he wasn't able to buy diapers for his daughter before he met up with dre..so before this whole "pop" shit(which is only considered pop cuz he's white)..he didn't make money.

i was talkin bout the SSLP and MMLP days...he was making money then tho, and was much better then than now

ooooooh...oK..I got you now..I understand you...

Well..you claim he's too repitive..so why would you want him to continue doin the same shit as MMLP n SSLP.He probably did eminem show n encore for the sake of experimenting or innovating with some new shit.U say he He may have been better back then?....well that's becuz he didn't milk it.There have been a lot of rappers whose career have been diminished due to going with the same forumula.I think he innovated for the purpose of keepin his music fresh.Unfortunely..as encore showed...it doesn't always work out positive.But it does show he's makin an effort to keep his music fresh.

wtf u a fuckin dickrider u got the word "dick" in 30 percent of ur reply and fuck you the other kid said most of what there has ta be said......anywayz this uncle freak is just some gay ass faggot tryin ta use anythang he can against marshal sure he may of used alotta truth but it wasnt the real truth, he just found a way ta bend it...eminem barily even raps like a thug em never claimed he was one....eminem mentioned shit in his songs and had a scene in 8 mile bout paintballs so u know he aint even frontin..aint like em tryin ta use that ta make him gangsta..lol wtf...everybody knows he said the n word when he was 17...he probably used it more than that one phrase cuz he probably didnt see anythang wrong with it at the time...but like em said he's a diff person now than he was when he was 17....eminem probaably was a mama's boy cuz they even say that in "eminem aka" so dont look like he's tryin ta hide it sure em probably gets along wit his mom sometimes (thats where the mama's boy comes from) but he argued wit his ma and shit (thats where he gets the hate for his ma) and yeah it is true lotz of us white people hate our ma's maybe its a thang wit genetics but white ma's and sons never mix....i defitnly dont mix wit my ma....but sometimes i do...so that prob the same wit em and everyone else...Ronnie didnt even live in the same house as em...em probably visited ronnie but never or hardly ever lived wit him..and just cuz ronnie didnt say shit bout em on his suicide note bout em doesnt mean shit...ronnie was probably too depressed ta think bout anything or anybody else at the time...its quite fuckin obvious this prick is defendin his sister...i mean come on in "eminem aka" debbie's MOM said that debbie lied to marshal sayin that ronnie tried callin em before he killed himself..just cuz debbie wanted ta fuckin stick it all on em ta make it look like em's fault..obviously this freak is tryin ta do the same thang....and this prick doesnt even know shit i mean wtf slim shady gangsta???? we all know what slim shasy is really about...this guy is just tryin ta bend the truth...yeah so what if he lived on 26 mile once in a while doesnt mean he grew up there...accordin ta what he said he only lived in 26 mile between the times he failed 9th grade...so he pretty much said it himself...and em aint 8 mile he's 7 mile....8 mile just had a better ring to it and it was pretty damn close to the real location and it was a SEMI-BIOGRAPHY which means its partially true so this guy is evedently as retarded as shit if he doesnt know what that means...oh and by the way for whatever that pricks name was who was talkin trash bout em....of coarse his ancesters are all white and from missouri...why the fuck u think he's a WHITE RAPPA u fuckin racist

exorcisnm umn ass he didnt flop till encore

this article is either old as fuck or fake....His uncle nelson is dead....
http://www.gavinsblog.com/?p=1676

^^^that is soooo made up...if it was true why wouldnt we have heard more about it from press or eminem himself..."And mum Debbie, 48, who he once called a slut in a song," come on, that there gave it away as a joke...and they kept on misspellin mom wit mum..press wouldnt do that..besides who the fuck would commit suicide because of a fuckin rotweiler...that would be so retarded

^^^^wtf...lol @ me actin gangsta :shoot: ..lol

V/ Fake...................

who gives a shit.... if a lie like that makes me millions like he's got then fuck it i'm a thug too

I refuse to believe this shit...

Seems like that Nelson Guy is just another jealous nigga, dawg this shit may be true, of course but... why fucking up someone that had worked his whole life to be this big..

and about this:

"Nelson apparently believes that Em is trying to pass off 8 Mile as authentic biography, which he isn’t.

Despite his resentment over Em’s treatment of his sister, Nelson does offer details of their relationship these days. He says Mathers is buying his mother a new RV.

“Why? To keep her mouth shut!” Nelson bellows. “He’s basically told her that if she keeps her mouth shut, he’ll take care of her. Why would I lie? I can’t stand that bitch half the time. But I’m not gonna have some son of a b*tch sit and lie, even if it’s her own kid. But I guess as long as he’s making money and taking care of her, that’s cool with me.”

That is imposible to be true, nobody is that stupid... c'mon...

this is impossible...tod nelson doesnt even have his own show and todd nelson said everything bout em in a good way on eminem aka....i just realized who supposably said it...lmao this shit is so fake why would he turn around and say all this shit especially after he said bout all the shit em went through....why would he do that if he was against eminem...by the way todd nelson raised him..there no way he'd do shit like that

Wow, I didn't know this ste was that big!