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Vango 09-18-05 04:20 PM

Hip Hop 101
 
This site is a hip hop site, but it's also a chance for heads to elevate. So I am going to start helping cats elevate. First thing, real hip hop, if you don't know the difference this is going to be your first lesson. Go get KRS ONE's album Kris Styles. Listen to it if you don't feel it you probably will never get what real hip hop is about. That's todays homework, listen to that album and report back. :thumbup:

Mimesis. 09-18-05 04:40 PM

This is fucking stupid.

Tha Q. 09-18-05 04:49 PM

lol..^^^^^^^^^^^...exactly

Dickard. 09-18-05 05:00 PM

why elevate......wen im already dope :cool: lol j/p but werd no need for this

J. Luth 09-18-05 05:02 PM

Fuck the Colts!!! :mad:

Dickard. 09-18-05 05:05 PM

they losin 3- nothen last time i looked what was the final score? yes FREEPOST

Dickard. 09-18-05 05:28 PM

pft.....................yes hip hop is very good............happy/

J. Luth 09-18-05 05:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystic Chaos
they losin 3- nothen last time i looked what was the final score? yes FREEPOST

Colts won 10-3........ :cussing:

Dickard. 09-18-05 05:30 PM

oh damn, i didnt even know they won...........................good

J. Luth 09-18-05 05:32 PM

fuck that...........

Magic5 09-18-05 06:19 PM

Cardinals are playing the Rams right now, baby!

Shazz 09-18-05 06:21 PM

^LOL
Im watching it...

Ranks™ 09-18-05 06:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by It's SPuL!
Colts won 10-3........ :cussing:

YES!

Don't talk about the Eagles game homo.

Tha Q. 09-18-05 06:49 PM

football is boring


GOLF ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blay'all 09-18-05 07:17 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by It's SPuL!
Fuck the Colts!!! :mad:

lmao, i thought of u when i saw that game....

did u think of me when u saw the Panthers whoop the Patriots's ass?

J. Luth 09-18-05 07:41 PM

lol I knew you'd be happy... but I was happy as fuck too. I mean, a patriots loss is ALMOST as good as a Jaguars win is for me. lol

J. Luth 09-18-05 07:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranks™
YES!

Don't talk about the Eagles game homo.

FUCK YOU BITCH!!!! your second fav team beat MY fav team, and MY second fav team beat YOUR fav team. HAHA!!!! *gets ready to wear black TO jersey to school* word.....

atleast my team has defense. :)

Indeph 09-18-05 09:40 PM

Rofl @ the complete change of topic.

KriZ 09-18-05 09:43 PM

hmm.
 
"Kris Styles" MY name is Kris Lol. and how the fuck did football get into this :huh:

Ranks™ 09-18-05 10:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by It's SPuL!
FUCK YOU BITCH!!!! your second fav team beat MY fav team, and MY second fav team beat YOUR fav team. HAHA!!!! *gets ready to wear black TO jersey to school* word.....

atleast my team has defense. :)

We ALL know the Jags are gonna go on a 0-4 losing streak like I said last week...1 down bitch.

Vango 09-18-05 10:51 PM

Aight homos get back on topic. You motherfuckers swear you know hip hop and half you on this site have no clue what real hip hop is. Fuck your platinum chains and rims, and fake ballers. I'm talking true mc skillz. And fuck you Spul the Colts did win and guess what we got a defense this year. Superbowl baby.

Indeph 09-18-05 10:53 PM

I know real hip hop vango. :)

Vango 09-18-05 10:55 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Indeph-
I know real hip hop vango. :)



lmao, i believe you indeph. the point of this thread is for all the heads out there who have no clue about roots of hip hop, underground artists, etc.... :thumbup:

Indeph 09-18-05 10:57 PM

That's what makes me lose motivation to rap. Most of what people are looking for now isn't hip hop at all. They want beats and to have chants of guns and drugs. So its like ok, I'll be real and not make money or be fake and be rich as fuck. Arg :mad:

Vango 09-18-05 11:00 PM

My point exactly and if you listen to that album KRS breaks it down, he doesn't talk down to people. he's like yo i was a thug, but you gotta get out that street mentality.

Implicit 09-18-05 11:01 PM

Yeah. Frisco got killed by Philly. Maybe we'll get better next year.

Implicit 09-18-05 11:03 PM

But KRS is definitely a good example of what hip hop is all about. Forget all the songs about I got this kinda gun and I deal this kinda drugs. Be real and use hip hop to voice your opinion and express yourself.

Vango 09-18-05 11:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Implicit
But KRS is definitely a good example of what hip hop is all about. Forget all the songs about I got this kinda gun and I deal this kinda drugs. Be real and use hip hop to voice your opinion and express yourself.



Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indeph 09-18-05 11:05 PM

Now rap is honestly fuckin up society. Its making it a demand to do illegal shit. Thank god for kanye west. Lol I wanna make music like that. I want my style to be a mix of em's insanity and kanye's musical talent and morals. :) But I lost motivation for it. It takes me like 5 years to think of what to write about.

Ranks™ 09-18-05 11:08 PM

the first rappper was ll cool j

Vango 09-18-05 11:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Indeph-
Now rap is honestly fuckin up society. Its making it a demand to do illegal shit. Thank god for kanye west. Lol I wanna make music like that. I want my style to be a mix of em's insanity and kanye's musical talent and morals. :) But I lost motivation for it. It takes me like 5 years to think of what to write about.



People only ask for what they know, so that's my point. If more people knew about the real hip hop artists that have been doing this shit for years, maybe they would realize they have a choice.

La Cosa Nostra 09-19-05 12:43 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vango
This site is a hip hop site, but it's also a chance for heads to elevate. So I am going to start helping cats elevate. First thing, real hip hop, if you don't know the difference this is going to be your first lesson. Go get KRS ONE's album Kris Styles. Listen to it if you don't feel it you probably will never get what real hip hop is about. That's todays homework, listen to that album and report back. :thumbup:

Scuse me sonny jim..

Hip hop is the culture of Breakdancing, Graffiti, Turntables & Rapping..
Buying KRS-1's album isnt gonna make someone suddenly know what hip hop is and I think if your telling people stuff like that, it might not be your area of expertise, to the extent where you would do a good job teaching people about hip hop.

Nah mean?

La Cosa Nostra 09-19-05 01:55 AM

Rap is music...
No matter what style you use or prefer, your ultimatly making music.. If you look at rap from an industry perspective, a lot of cats are just clueless as to what their trying to do and rely on short careers where they have the shit marketed out of them by people who could give a fuck less about any of their goals..

I dont look at rap as the underground being real hip hop and the commercial scene being bad rap.. When I look at rap, I see the underground, where cats make songs mainly for the enjoyment of hip hop heads and employ more complex techniques to get their message accross simply because hip hop heads will understand more complex techniques in rap. Underground rappers dont bring in loads of cash though because their target audiences are always going to be smaller.

Commercial rap on the other hand, is for a much larger target audience... Commercial rappers have to appeal to not only those who are die hard rap fans, but also people who listen to more than just rap, and ultimatly people who dont even listen to rap.

Your talking like hip hop is some kind of vast enigma that few people understand.. In reality it is a straight forward word for the culture of breakdancing, Djing, rapping & graffiti.. But no matter what you prefer to call your rap, like I said before... Its always just gonna be music..

And music is always going to be subjective... One mans trash is another mans treasure. Personally, I am looking to break into the commercial scene.. That doesent make me any less of an artist, because I still rhyme better than a lot of underground artists that are getting recognition these days.. And my message will always be the same no matter how much I bring in for my music.. It just means I'll be rapping in a larger scene that most underground heads couldnt break into if they tried..

Dont try and label hip hop as being one type of rap (ie the type you respect the most).. I apreciate any music made by people I respect as an artist.. That doesent mean only the artists I respect are making real hip hop... It just means thats my preferance..

If that makes sense to you..

Ysdat 09-19-05 02:00 AM

rap music is self expression in a poetic form. You can accapella rap, and its still rap music.

Spektikul 09-19-05 02:11 AM

This thread might not be dope...

...but Vango is. :thumbup:

La Cosa Nostra 09-19-05 03:08 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
rap music is self expression in a poetic form. You can accapella rap, and its still rap music.

Man... Seriously..

Rap has nothing to do with poetry..
Why is it that every man and his dog tries to sound deep by throwing around words like poetry when talking about rap.. When I sit down to write my songs, the last thing on my mind is "Ooh I'm gonna be real poetical in this verse"..

Wtf.. Does this shit sound like poetry to you:

You bloody nuns; I'll give the crowd what they came for.
Pick a straight whore; rip her brains raw with a chain saw.
Still remain all; ruthless to leave ya crew toothless.
Like two kids; acting stupid in a booth with.
The illest rappers around; quick damage ya town.
With hammers that pound an activist down.
You cat'll be ground, by my rhyme morter and pestle.
On-board with the best crew, dopium all gonna test you.
And yeah;
I'm at it again; back like an addict with pens.
Smackng ya friends; with these raps that offend.
Whether I slash or stab you depends; the bad habbits of men.

etc etc etc...
Hell no it doesent.....
But is that rap? Hell yes it is..

Its such an underground myth that rapping is like poetry.. Poetry uses words to describe and provoke feelings and emotions.. Rap lyrics use more real straight up language to get a point accross.. Thats not a personal preference, thats what THE MAJORITY of people enjoy hearing in rap songs. Underground junky net heads sometimes like it the other way around, but wow @ how small that target audience actually is..

Fact is..
If you rapped some poetry to a beat, it is extremily rare that it would sound any good as a song.. Just like if you spoke some rap lyrics as poetry, it is extremily rare it would work at all or appeal to a poetry audience..

Dont get it twisted..

Ysdat 09-19-05 03:46 AM

^
I posted that with a 100% prediction you would qoute me and try make me seem insignifigant. I didnt even read you half assed wanna-b looking wise on the net post :)

La Cosa Nostra 09-19-05 04:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
^
I posted that with a 100% prediction you would qoute me and try make me seem insignifigant. I didnt even read you half assed wanna-b looking wise on the net post :)

^That is such a "oh shit I got proven wrong... act like hes talking shit to save face" type of post..

Me = looking wise on the net by posting the same way I would address that issue in real life

You = trying to save face infront of net people while pretending you dont care about what anyone over rapverse thinks..

Which one is worse..

Ysdat 09-19-05 04:15 AM

LMAO. proven wrong? you stated your point of veiw. I believe rap is a form of poetry and rap can be accapella. You stated your opinion. There are no facts to what rap is. Its about personal expression to use it how you want.

bro you continuisly ryding me and tryna make me seem like I have no clue what Im talking about, you typed a bunch of generic bullshit,which happens to be YOUR PERSONAL POINT OF VEIW.
Nos, Not everyone thinks the same as you,and it doesnt make us wrong.

So I shall repeat,rap is poetry with or without a beat,rap can be accapella.

But your still original nostradamus the second :bored:


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