What is 'God' ?
 

God is a mind that has concieved us.

- Religion tells us he is the creator.
- Most obvious explenation for "being everywhere and within everyone" right?
- We are supposidly created in his image (lesser minds - do we house our own parralell universe possibly?)
- The universe is known as an endless expance that we supposidly cant comphrehend. (determine the limits or perimetre of your own mind)
- Religion tells us he has no form of which we can comphrehend. (explain what a mind looks like to our naked eye)
- He is ever loving and kind, but we can also make him angry (as shown in many texts)..
- His main representation of talking is by a nameless voice from the clouds or some kind of metaphoric object (burning bush)
- In pre-historic times (ie: Humans have no surviving record of) The earth was inhabited by dinosours. After millions of years, they were killed off by an event that we have little knowledge of. And all of a sudden, humans sprouted. Dinoursours being outdone by a new species that has the ability to converse in properly formulated language, has mastered many areas such as archatecture, mathamatics, science etc etc.. Sounds like a mind progressing and maturing right?

Even the title.... "Creater of the universe"..
This large enigma nobody can comphrehend, but its prominant in all cultures that we are to have faith and follow, give sacrafices, talk to (pray) to a god and creator of the universe etc.

Does this not sound like we are the spawn or concieved product of a vast and amazingly transendant MIND? Therefore our meaning of life is;

"To please the mind we inhabit"

If you care to read the Islamic creation story; it talks of another species or race of peoples known as the Jinn. I realise people are going to say how does this theory involve angels and what not. The Jinn spoken of in the Islamic creation story which can choose their own fate (good or evil) are supposed to house names such as Satan himself. This co-incides with my theory.

It is also known to many religions of lesser dietys that govern aspects of life. The complexitys of god are mind boggling..

This theory is a work in progress.
Post ideas if you like.. I wont be leaving this up for very long.

Ok umm..
I dont know where your going with most of that post...

I'm making a point as to what god is in a way humans can understand. Your talking about................uhh.....*confused look* a lot of things... I think....

If you read my post it is very feasable as to how I came to this conclusion and while it is in early stages... The wording I used to state the meaning of life, while I will be expanding on this at a later stage, is in a simple form of hypothetical truth..

Hope that helps.....

Lol scared you?

I guess it is kind of like twilight zone type shit..
The entire universe being the product of a transendant mind's imagination and calculated equasions..

Definatly makes you wonder..

My post was completely off topic i know but i posted shit that i been meanin to say an what is god we jus dont know..:( but my post clairified that already....

No descriptions of God that I've seen would contradict this theory. This is pretty dope. It makes a lot of sense... like... a LOT of sense. I'd like to help you develop this shit, if you wanna talk about it some time.

But there are a few unanswered questions I can think of. If you are comparing the God mind to our minds, I don't understand how things for us in this universe are so constant. This universe is stable. For us to conceive something in our minds is temporary, or at least its temporary for thought processes. Thoughts come and go, so either this universe is not the thought of a God mind, or its something very complex that we can't understand... perhaps a tiny thought that pops up in the God mind's mind and then dissapears could last millions of years in our time.

Or maybe this universe is housed in a sort of memory-like area of the mind? For example, we may not be thinking of something that happened in the past, but that doesnt mean if we want to think of it we cant. This God mind could have conjured up the universe as a huge complex thought, and then the thought may have dissapeared from the mind's eye and turned into a dynamic memory, that exists. You know what I mean?

I'd have to think over this theory a bit more to find more flaws.

Something else to consider is meditation. Many asian sects for example teach that mastering your mind (often through meditation) brings you to the same place as God, resulting in eternal happiness. Maybe this doesnt mean physically being in the same place as God, because he is a mind. It could mean being mentally, at the same level as God, able to create vast complex thoughts such as universes.

This is all just speculation off the top type shit though. But your theory is dope.

Yeah man def... Always open to ideas and discussion..


Well in our case god would be a transendant mind. Capable of things we wouldnt dream of. Saying we house our own parralell universes is simply speculation and has no solid base or evidence.. I was just using it to relate to one of the points made.


There is 90% of our brain that science has no idea what is there for.. God is supposed to use and be in complete control of 100% of his brain, if a brain is what he has?? But the 90% un-accounted for is definatly worth consideration to answer this paragraph..


Asians can be trippers sometimes I think.. Mastering your mind is not possable to the same extent as god.. No human being is transendant, thats a proven fact..

But yeah.. I'm always learning new things.. I'm currantly studying pagan religions and mythology.. I feel there is a lot about history that can be learnt from ancient mythology..

Did deitys really walk the earth thousands of years ago?
Who knows.....

I'm not gonna be drunk tonight, we talk then, hoe cake. Lol.

Mad slept on thread......

That's because 98.32656% of this site can't put together a response to match the level of complexity that your question is at.

Its not a question is more like a theory...

I was hoping for someone to atleast either try and prove me wrong or give some opinions on whether they think its true or nonsense.... or iunno.....

Atleast something other than 55 views and 11 replies (half of which are me and the other half of which are just pointless and borderline freeposting) -_-

What is god? thats a very difficult question that no one can awnser till well of course you die when you see him. Everyone will be judged and your judgments based on if you broke the commandments and stuck to gods word...but about ooo 2005 years ago a man named jesus died on the cross so your sins could be forgiven and he made it so when you die all your sins are gone and you'll be able to enter heaven. I belive firmly in this because of some of the things i've seen and how i feel. In my mind i belive jesus is the key to everything but right now i'm at the stage were well i aint following his rules...but he is the creator he created the world 6000 years ago......and before the flood or the time when it rained for 40 days and 40 nights and the ARc was built people lived a long time and people grew up to be 10 feet tall...the Flood is what killed the dinosaurs or the creatures that couldn't be brought on the arc because they were too BIG and belive me this arc WAS HUGE and if you have 5-10 people building the arc that'r 10 feet tall and huge and quick then its not gonna take that long... and when that flood happended it happend sooooooo fast that all the dinosaurs were hit and it made them hmm how too you say it petrified........and after the flood all the thigns were underground and what not...i bet your wondering I WONDER HOW PEOPLE WERE SOOOO HUGE.....well there was a greenhouse affect before the earth was polluted by the flood and it made everyone live longer and there were more trees and bigger trees so there was more oxygen so it made people grow WAYYYY TALLER!! and i could go into more description but i dont feel liek it..i'll do it later

You are a fucken tripper..
Dude.............I cant believe you actually think all that stuff is true..

People never grew to be 10 feet tall or live any longer than we do..

There are also records that date back to 9000B.C and beyond if you actually did ANY form of research before you made those pathetically WRONG claims.. And the dinosours were NOT around when Noah built his Arc... The dinosours were killed by a meteorite that smashed into the earth long before Noah was even concieved..

Next time you even think about making claims such as this, please check your evidence carefully and dont just listen to some diluded christian preacher that has ABSOLUTLY no idea what they are babbling on about...

I have heard all the claims that you stated before from Chrsitians, they are based on NO factual evidence and are said in NO records.. Its made up religious properganda right down to the fucking core...

Besides, your post in no way even relates to my theory nor does it go into any areas that would be even slightly relatable to this thread.

Thanks for posting and not sleeping on the thread I guess but seriously, dont come in here with un-factual arguments that arnt true and disreguard what this thread is even about...

Theres smart christians that know their shit and can justify their beliefs, and theres stupid christians, who are idiots.

You are a stupid christian.

^ lol.

In short, I believe religion is a crutch for the weak minded as a way to transgress their guilty conscience to a higher order (god through asking forgiveness) In a better attempt to live day-to-day life easier without feeling guilty for mistakes they've made in the past. That it just my opinion.

Some religious people try to make me understand and the best ive heard is this:

How do you know a building is there? How do you know a car is there? Because someone BUILT IT, and you're whitnessing the creation of someone/thing else.

I've arrgued countless times and asked how is it not possible that some loon along time ago made the bible up? How could we be the only ones in the universe with a conscience mind, seems like a waste of space. Science and Religion contradict themselves. One follows the theory of evelution, one I tend to follow due to the physical proof of it. The other is based on faith of which I see no proof except the Bible.

well we'll find out what happens in the end wont we we'll knwo that what i said was truth

I'll get the stupid one out of the way first..


Your views on the way things used to be are in-correct and naieve. And make no difference at all. Follow religion, but dont just blindly believe everything your told buddy.... Thats all I'm going to say to you.



I know most people cant comprehend religion and evolution existing side by side. And nobody is asking you to change your views on religion. However.. Here is why I believe what I believe.

I used to be just like you.. I had decided myself that religion was an ancient method of control to prevent people living in an outlaw society where laws would have been poory enforced and what better way to get people doing what their told than to tell them they will burn in hell for eternity if they dont do what the church tells them to. Right?

Well nobody can prove that wrong ofcourse.
However the more I studied religion and started to make more educated assumptions on its purpose I began to find myself understanding the real value of religion to our modern society. Personally I disreguard a lot of religious belief's even though I dont dissagree with them. In my own way, I have studied and come to conclusions and now I believe I understand religion on a level a lot of people couldnt even fathom.. My belief that god is a transendant mind that concieved the universe and its inhabitance, this theory does not conflict with any religious or scientific belief's. It is simply on a different level. I believe god created science, evolution & gave religion to prophets around the world to suit different cultures perfectly how it needed to be done. Ofcourse there are differences in religions, but how exactly would you expect them to stay seperate for so long? Because people blindly give faith to their own religious belief's and dont actually attempt to believe any others. I think you'll find there are often ways to translate most religious belief's in a language other religions would understand without going too far to make connections.

That is my belief in a nutshell. But heres the part I've been working up to.
Science has one major flaw above all else that it cannot explain, a final peice of the puzzle if you will that is missing. The scientific creation story says that the universe was made by a big bang. But they have no explenation as to how this big bang came about. How exactly did it happen? And more importantly.. What existed before the big bang?

There is not a scrap of evidence either way that could possably dissagree with god being a transendant eternal mind that concieved the universe (possibly with a big bang) and since god does not go by the same time perseption as we do, there is no telling whether billions of years to us, could be simply another point of reference on a larger scale of time to him.

God is the final peice of the puzzle explaining our existance whether science can prove it or not. Everything else within religion is secondary. Explain to me otherwise if you are able to do so as it may be slightly amusing.

I'd go on and on and on for a lot longer but I jus got a call and I really gotta go..

Too bad ey..
Hope this post helps though.

well think of this....alot of people cant belive the world was made in 7 days...
but a day is when the earth does a whole spin...who says god cant make the world spin or stop and waited millions of years to make like water animals and stuff
but i also have thought of god writing our lives down in a book..and when we somehow glance at it this results in "deja voo" how else would we be able to see in the future with out it already being known

A lot of references in the bible are metaphorical.

A day could mean a step. Kind of like the world was build in 7 steps...

In revelations, the reference to 7 could be the same metaphoric meaning thats employed for instance like the world being destroyed or 7 steps sort through who will be accepted into the next era..

You cant decypher anything the bible says if you take it literally..

Well, the argument people put against that though is that BEFORE the 7 days statement in the Bible it states that lightness and darkness were created and "The light was called day, and the dark night," or something like that, but I agree... all that stuff has been translated WAAAY too many times to hold specific words to too much power.

the current scientific view is that the universe is cyclical...

there has been measureable slowing in the expansion of the universe...its believed that the universe will reach a certain point of expansion then begin to collapse on itself as all the stars die out and create black holes...eventually the intense gravity will cause the universe to collapse on itself so hard-into a ball denser than anything ever observed or even imagined-that large scale fusion will occur and cause the universe to explode and begin to expand again...

this would be the 'big bang'...except scientists believe that there has been not one but perhaps millions of them...

as the particles cool and swirl planets and galaxies form...and keep swirling...thats why everything orbits everything...its still swirling from the big bang millions of years ago...ask me more about it if you want...

Well, although this doesent disprove my theory. You have to remember, space IS the final frontier.. Humans used to think the Earth was flat for a long time untill they realised they were wrong. So talking universe theorys may be a little premature in currant times, however this wouldnt effect much of my theory on what god is as its based mainly on other facts and teachings..

Still.. Its interesting..
And you have to ask yourself.. What the hell existed before the big bang? What created it? .......And what a lot may not be able to grasp.. Can the big bang be related to child birth if my theory is correct?

your theory isnt provable one way or another...neither is mine...i was just telling you what i think...

i dont think there was a THE big bang...i think there have been millions of big bangs...over trillions of years...and i just think it has always been that way...

permanence is a hard concept for humans to grasp...but i just believe that the universe has always existed...i dont think there was a point when it came into existence from nothingness...

i didn't read all the posts so i don't know if anyones said anything like this or not and i don't know anything about religion either but

if there is a god and they made us who made god?, and about peoples mind, like your brain and shit like your mind is YOU not your body, your mind controls what you do, say and all that. but what controls your mind? thats why i belive in ghosts and shit cuz thats like your mind. and shit havein to do with ghosts has happend to people i know like they'v seen them.

GOD=BLACK
nuff asid

lmao nigga god has no color.