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Magic5 09-24-05 02:55 AM

Studying The Stock Market
 
Does anybody have any books, newspapers, magazines, etc. to help me understand the stock market more?

Right now I'm reading a book called "Guide To The Markets," then after that I will be reading "Investing Smart," and that after that I will read one more book written by William O'Neil.. and finally, after I read those, or sometime in the middle I will be subscribing to the "Investor's Business Daily" newspaper, to try learn all that I can about the stock market (how it works, how to make money doing it, etc.)

Because, if you live in a country with a capitalist economy, then you can make pretty large sums of money using the stock market. I need to learn about, and understand the stock market, like, before summer so I can start investing.

Do any of you have any more books or ideas on how to further expand my knowledge and understanding of the stock market?

Spektikul 09-24-05 03:29 AM

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Magic5 09-24-05 03:32 AM

Man, you could make massive amounts of money doing this shit if you are able to understand what the fuck is going on.

Spektikul 09-24-05 03:38 AM

Wish I could help you but I know nothing about the subject and have no intentions of learning.

But GL and strike it rich yo. :thumbup:

Ps. Get some shares in the gas/fuel industry...maybe.

Status 09-24-05 03:41 AM

my uncle makes $10, 000 a month from the stock market, so im gonna ask him how he does it and get my info like that, fuck reading books, so yeah im just gonna invest in the stocks he invest in , word $10,000 a month

dope

Magic5 09-24-05 03:45 AM

You can't just start investing stocks if you have no idea how the stock market is ran, how interest rates affect prices, how the prices for stocks even come about. You will not make hardly any money at all if you just hop in. I can guarantee if your uncle really makes $10,000 a month, he either watches the t.v. a lot or he studies the stocks on the computer, and he already knows what everything is about.

If he doesn't do those, then I supremely doubt he makes that kind of money.

If you don't know anything about the stock market, you shouldn't invest. This isn't a fucking game. The smartest people in the world are all up in this. You can't just walk in and expect to be rich the following month.

Magic5 09-24-05 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Spektikul
Wish I could help you but I know nothing about the subject and have no intentions of learning.

But GL and strike it rich yo. :thumbup:

Ps. Get some shares in the gas/fuel industry...maybe.


I doubt I'll be investing in the gas industry.. at least until some of the speculation around it decreases.

Status 09-24-05 03:55 AM

word he is or was always on comuters becuase hes a computer tech, but yeah he is pretty smart, and all that shit, he studies the stocks i think becuase he always takes hella time into doing research on anything he does, so yup, not sure how long he studied and all that just know that he told me how much he makes and my brother started getting int he stocks becuase of him so word

i would say just talk to someone who has been doing the stock gig for a while , the easyest way for me to learn somehting is for someone to tell me how to do it you get to know the truth about the stocks, they can tell you shit that books cant

word

Magic5 09-24-05 04:05 AM

If he is a tech 'specialist' I would not be surprised at all if those figures were accurate. You could make huge amounts of bank with computers. Like, in the mid 90s.. imagine if you had bought 10,000 shares of Microsoft for $85 each. Now, today you sell them at $330 each, and being that you would have had the shares in so long, taxes wouldn't eat away at it either. Knowledge in techincal shit could easily make money.

But, I don't think the stock market is that simple to where you can sit down over dinner with your uncle and have it figured out. My dad is an attorney, and has been interested in the stock market, and has invested in the stock market, for over 20 years. I'm starting to talk to him about questions I have in the books he gave me, but shit is complex. It's hard to grasp right now, but he seems to think after I can understand the basics it should get easier, so whatever.. I'll keep reading, but shit isn't easy to comprehend at the beginning because there is so much shit about stocks that you need to understand to be successful.

And then, after that, you need to either watch the stock channels on the tv, read the business section of the newspapers, or look on the computer every day to figure out what's happening with stocks so you don't too much money.

WhoAmI 09-24-05 05:27 AM

its good to see that some people on rv know where their heads at

good luck with this though

Blay'all 09-24-05 05:33 AM

take a class at a community college or somethin

Tha Q. 09-24-05 05:55 AM

I don't study the market, but I do invest in it...particularly for my retirement fund...which to me always sounded like bullshit...BUt...it is fun watching your money escalate month by month...


Go to a financial institution and ask them to send you a brochure


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strobe 09-24-05 07:43 AM

I started investing for fun back in 2001 and that was a lousy time to get in. A lot of stocks I brought back then is now worthless. I also don't really have the patience or time to do a lot of research, which may be why I'm not doing that well. It's probably easier when you have a good chunk of money to start with. With a few thousand, even if a stock goes up like 25-50%, its only a few hundred dollars profit. My mom does pretty well with the stock market.. my dad on the other hand, like to hold onto a stock forever and ends up losing all the gains when the stocks fall. Lately I've been just following a few stocks and when it falls down to a certain point, I buy and sell when I make around 20% back. Only play with a few thousand, so I end up having money locked into a stock for a long time if it falls into the red and not having any money to buy more.

For the lazy investor, investing in mutual funds may be better. You might not get as big returns, but it's less risk since the funds are diversified already and the fund managers do all the research for you.

Overall, investing is a good idea. You are only making so much money working at a job, and if you can get your money to make more with you doing nothing or barely anything, it's worth it. Passive income kicks ass.

WhoAmI 09-24-05 12:32 PM

*bows down to strobe for his infinite knowledge*

lol

Magic5 09-24-05 01:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by strobe
I started investing for fun back in 2001 and that was a lousy time to get in. A lot of stocks I brought back then is now worthless. I also don't really have the patience or time to do a lot of research, which may be why I'm not doing that well. It's probably easier when you have a good chunk of money to start with. With a few thousand, even if a stock goes up like 25-50%, its only a few hundred dollars profit. My mom does pretty well with the stock market.. my dad on the other hand, like to hold onto a stock forever and ends up losing all the gains when the stocks fall. Lately I've been just following a few stocks and when it falls down to a certain point, I buy and sell when I make around 20% back. Only play with a few thousand, so I end up having money locked into a stock for a long time if it falls into the red and not having any money to buy more.

For the lazy investor, investing in mutual funds may be better. You might not get as big returns, but it's less risk since the funds are diversified already and the fund managers do all the research for you.

Overall, investing is a good idea. You are only making so much money working at a job, and if you can get your money to make more with you doing nothing or barely anything, it's worth it. Passive income kicks ass.


Yeah, I have $2,000 in the bank that I'll end up investing first.. see how I do after I understand what's going on. I'm probably going to end up selling my shares if it drops past 8%, therefore cutting my losses.

And yeah, when I get older I'll probably get into mutual funds, but considering I'm 16 years old right now, I think I can afford to take more risks.. as I have my whole life to earn any losses back.

Magic5 09-24-05 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BLAY
take a class at a community college or somethin


I'm a junior in high school right now. I don't have time for college classes on top of my high school classes.

Magic5 09-24-05 01:15 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
I don't study the market, but I do invest in it...particularly for my retirement fund...which to me always sounded like bullshit...BUt...it is fun watching your money escalate month by month...


Go to a financial institution and ask them to send you a brochure


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If you are truly in the stock market, your money will not just 'escalate' every month. Every stock rises and falls. What kind of stocks have you invested in?

DON 09-24-05 02:56 PM

u dont need any classes or education on it at all. i trade all the time its so easy. jus get an online brokerage and do it u dont need to read any books. jus know the basics.

and buy krispy kreme as soon as u can (kkd)

Blay'all 09-24-05 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
I'm a junior in high school right now. I don't have time for college classes on top of my high school classes.

oh, shit i aint know

u were talkin like ur about 85

Grave Digger 09-24-05 04:00 PM

My dad has made so much money playing the stocks, and so have I.

But if you want to know my opinion, stop right now. First of all books won't do shit, trust me, stock brokers all suck, trust that too. You just gotta be able to play em period. And you will probably end up losing more money then you make as the majority does.

So...

Magic5 09-24-05 04:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by DON
u dont need any classes or education on it at all. i trade all the time its so easy. jus get an online brokerage and do it u dont need to read any books. jus know the basics.

and buy krispy kreme as soon as u can (kkd)


My knowledge of stocks, and how they are affected by certain things was very limited. I've talked with my dad for about 4 hours today I'm beginning to grasp the concepts. I'm still reading the books before I get started, though. Knowing the basics isn't good enough for me.

Magic5 09-24-05 04:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BLAY
oh, shit i aint know

u were talkin like ur about 85


Lmao. Nah, I'm just trying to put together some capital.

Magic5 09-24-05 05:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper
My dad has made so much money playing the stocks, and so have I.

But if you want to know my opinion, stop right now. First of all books won't do shit, trust me, stock brokers all suck, trust that too. You just gotta be able to play em period. And you will probably end up losing more money then you make as the majority does.

So...


If you are serious you don't "just play them." I'm not looking to throw 2 grand in to a fucking krispy kreme stock and hope to God that it goes up. You can do that, sure.. but there are SO many more factors that should affect what stocks you buy and don't buy.

It's not as simple as that.

If it was then THOUSANDS of people wouldn't be suscribing to 'Investor's Busniess Daily.' I'm not looking to fuck around and hopefully make $10 or some shit. I'm looking to make money, and that for me, isn't about knowing the basics and randomly guessing what stocks should go up.

Magic5 09-24-05 05:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spektikul
Wish I could help you but I know nothing about the subject and have no intentions of learning.

But GL and strike it rich yo. :thumbup:

Ps. Get some shares in the gas/fuel industry...maybe.


I was thinking about that gas/fuel shit and I figured out why I'm not going to buy it. Let me explain;

Right now, with gas prices so high, car companies all over are trying to figure out a way to mess around with the hydrogen so not so much oil will have to be used.. and eventually, basing off of how fast our technology is growing, I don't think oil will need to be used at all, henceforth I think you're shooting yourself in the foot investing in an oil company now.

That's like, investing in type writers in the late 80s- early 90s. You just wouldn't do it.

Magic5 09-24-05 05:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by DON
u dont need any classes or education on it at all. i trade all the time its so easy. jus get an online brokerage and do it u dont need to read any books. jus know the basics.

and buy krispy kreme as soon as u can (kkd)


Oh, and I just looked at Krispy Kreme and I see what you mean.. but how can you be sure the stock won't keep going down? Shares look like they are about $6 each right now, but in January '05 they were at $13, and Krispy Kreme is just on a total downward slope right now.

Grave Digger 09-24-05 05:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
If you are serious you don't "just play them." I'm not looking to throw 2 grand in to a fucking krispy kreme stock and hope to God that it goes up. You can do that, sure.. but there are SO many more factors that should affect what stocks you buy and don't buy.

It's not as simple as that.

If it was then THOUSANDS of people wouldn't be suscribing to 'Investor's Busniess Daily.' I'm not looking to fuck around and hopefully make $10 or some shit. I'm looking to make money, and that for me, isn't about knowing the basics and randomly guessing what stocks should go up.


I've made 'bout 20,000 so far.

But like I said hobo, you play the stocks, it that simple, you either make money or you lose it, of course there's other factors and you gotta know what your doing, but books and stock brokers really aren't gonna help you that much.

Phillip Mores, been making us mad money, Bombardier fucked us over. Beas was doing great..... years ago, -_- Texas instruments been up down. But wt/v, it's not easy. Duh.

DON 09-24-05 06:37 PM

yeah krispy kreme is on a downward but they just had a federal investigation which brought it down plus they went down because the atkins diet. the actual price of the stock going up or down isnt fully determined by how many donuts they sell. no stock is determined fully by how much business they do. krispy kreme donuts still appeals to the sam emarket with the same amount of people with the same amount of stores and the same product. the only reason the pirce has went down is because of rumors and the federal investigation, ive made over a grand on krispy kreme and now is the time to buy because it will shoot back up to 7 dollars a share so for every share you buy you will be making a dollar for each share.

o and www.firstrade.com is one of the best online brokerages its wat i use. plus there r no hidden fees and the trading fee is really cheap compared to every other trading company.

Magic5 09-24-05 08:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper
I've made 'bout 20,000 so far.

But like I said hobo, you play the stocks, it that simple, you either make money or you lose it, of course there's other factors and you gotta know what your doing, but books and stock brokers really aren't gonna help you that much.

Phillip Mores, been making us mad money, Bombardier fucked us over. Beas was doing great..... years ago, -_- Texas instruments been up down. But wt/v, it's not easy. Duh.


The book I'm reading now is a guide to the markets. It's not about how to invest money.. it's me trying to figure out what's going on.

Magic5 09-24-05 08:25 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by DON
yeah krispy kreme is on a downward but they just had a federal investigation which brought it down plus they went down because the atkins diet. the actual price of the stock going up or down isnt fully determined by how many donuts they sell. no stock is determined fully by how much business they do. krispy kreme donuts still appeals to the sam emarket with the same amount of people with the same amount of stores and the same product. the only reason the pirce has went down is because of rumors and the federal investigation, ive made over a grand on krispy kreme and now is the time to buy because it will shoot back up to 7 dollars a share so for every share you buy you will be making a dollar for each share.

o and www.firstrade.com is one of the best online brokerages its wat i use. plus there r no hidden fees and the trading fee is really cheap compared to every other trading company.


I know that how much the company sells doesn't matter.. it's a free market economy. I'm not joining up at a stock brokerage, though. My dad has been doing stocks for over 20 years, and is business major and is one of the best attorneys in this state (at the kind of law he does). He seems to think I don't need one, so I won't get one. I'm going to subscribe to the 'Investor's Business Daily' newspaper, and that's about it for now. Probably around Christmas I'll start investing and shit.

Tha Q. 09-24-05 08:25 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
If you are truly in the stock market, your money will not just 'escalate' every month. Every stock rises and falls. What kind of stocks have you invested in?



iz mutual funds...so it's a collection of stocks...and mine always rises cuz with retirement funds, u designate a percentage stock, bonds, and cash...


unless there's some major crash...which hasn't happened

Grave Digger 09-24-05 08:26 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
The book I'm reading now is a guide to the markets. It's not about how to invest money.. it's me trying to figure out what's going on.


Oh, well then, continue.

Magic5 09-25-05 01:04 AM

Word. I PLAN TOO.


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