Phenom...u got some SPLAININ to do...are u a beat biter?
 

that beat for the OYD collab that you made...

That's CAMRON'S beat dawg...
http://www.soundclick.com/artist/7/qakaprox.htm


^Click on Phenom Biter Proof...

Cam's song is first...then a short clip of Phenom's beat...shit is too similar for coincidence in my opinion...iono...see what Phenom has to say

I discovered it while making this RV MED 4


explain please



it's the same melody...drum rifts...everything


same bridge

Mhmm.. Sure he didnt just use the same sample?

That happens sometimes dude...

^^^NO...It's the same beat



lol

is it the EXACT same beat...or is can you tell a difference...cos u get get just blaze sample packs and shit off the net...

^^Hol Up...I'll post both up

http://www.soundclick.com/artist/7/qakaprox.htm


^^^CLICK ON "PHENOM BITER PROOF"


I'm sorry yo...but that's too damn close to be a coincidence

Mnhmm... If you gave me both the un-cut instrumental versions I'd be able to tell you for sure......

^^^Dawg...it don't matter how u slice dat bread...iz da same damn beat


close enough...listen to it

If he used the same sample but actually made it himself... Then it aint biting..

Cats do that, its happened more than a few times in rap dude.. It aint even really frowned upon.. Its jus one of those things that happens..

well ur right...I don't know shit about makin beats

but I know two beats are the same when they sound the same

i do know that...this is like that Vanilla Ice/ QUEEN shit

He didn't Jack Queen's sample...it just "sounded" the same

nah...its not exact..i though u meant hed actually just took camrons instrumental...aslong as hes put it together his self i dont really care...maybe he tried to copy the song...

theres one guy on the net....nfxbeats..he uses fruity loops and he made 50's in da club beat..without taking any samples from the original...sounded dope..and thats just with fruityloops..

he also took the same sample that just blaze used to make oh boy..and he made the beat in fruityloops...sounded exact...

check him out....you can watch the videos of him making em...

www.warbeats.com

ummm...and u think it's creative to basically copy someone's beat?

it's the same fuggin beat as far as I'm concerned


If I made a beat...and Phenom "sampled" it...what ever ur talkin about...and made money off it...I'd sue his ass until he had nothin else to copy with.


daz pathetic...I mean...I thought Vanilla Ice was a joker with that "See, look, mine goes DOO DOO DOO DOO DOOO DUMMMM"...and it was Queens instrumental.

wtf
are you deaf? those are 2 different beats
I agree, the sample is prolly the same, but they're not the same beat
get off his nuts, thats the problem with rv
they are ALWAYS tryin to "*rv member name here* EXPOSED!!!"
Mind ya fuckin business..

Calm down, kyro... lol. The beats are different tho, they might have the same sample but it's still different. I like phenom's better than the original one.

cam'ron's beat has a voice sample too
i know what song that is
its called "shut the fuck up"
it has tom jones, i think it is singin

^^well said. It's the same sample. Producers do this ALL the time (and I can link to at least 3 differnt instances). And these beats are VERY different. Listen to the basslines, listen to the BPM, listen t othe snare, etc. Everything's different as hell except for that "duh duh duuhhhh" where the horns come in.

Oh also, the part where it sounds the same to you, I recomended he loop that part again like that and that was before my cousin told me cam used the same sample.

^^^Well...it can be acceptable to you all...and daz coo...but those beats sounds very similar...

Dooms...I'm a musician and have a keen ear...I can hear the nuances in the beats that are different...But overall, those beats are basically the same...

For the record...Im a brass player...and a clarinet player...played in a jazz band...played from elementary school through college

and I also dibble in keyboard on the side...So I def. understand "music" as a whole...

I'm just saying those beats mirror each other...perhaps not congruently...but they are very similar...

I'm sorry...even if it is okay...why would a producer want to boast that "HEY LOOK, I COPIED SOMEONE'S BEAT..>ALMOST...AREN'T I DOPE"?

nah...I aint feelin dat...I'd want to be soo original, that people would want to come to me for my style and my style only...

where's he boasting that he copied a beat? It's a completely different beat with the same sample. How hard is that to understand?

u mean like how Vanilla Ice tried to convince a judge that he didn't steal QUEEN'S shit?

^^yea...I get it...some rifts in the drums are different...but the presentation is basically the same...melody...the chord is slightly different...but it's the same shit...and the duh duh duh duuuu duuuuu is the same at the end...

that to me says UNORIGINAL BEAT


if he coo with that...fine...

Oh...and the BOASTING is him actually making the beat and passing it along as if he originated the shit...which he didn't.


Die a duck black and it's still a fuggin duck...jus a BLACK ONE.

No, actually nothing liek that. Ice's beat WAS the same, then "changed it" by adding another hit of the snare in it. Phenom's beat is from the ground up and only shares the same sample. Unoriginal? Seeing that someone else did it, I'd say yes. But biting? Definitely not. You haven't "discovered" or "revealed" jack shit other than "how to make the Q look desperate".

actually...I wasn't tryna to discover anything...but I was jus browsin through beats and came across it...

and yall can call it what u will...the shits basically the same

nuff said...He ya crew and all and ya boy...But dooms...ur the same niggas that wiggled your ass outta biting allegations...

and just liek Vanilla Ice...he swears to this day that he shouldn't have lost that case...

w.e though...I know if I want a PHENOM BEAT...I'll just get it from another artitst



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Q- everyone knows that Dooms didn't bite fa real tho... I ain't taking sides, but Phenom didn't "bite" anything if that's the case Kanye West bites when he makes beats, because he uses samples in almost every beat he makes. He might have tried to mimic the beat, but the outcome is different.

I know what you saying, they do sound similar, that don't mean it's the same.
Feel me?

thank you...I just want someone to realize Im not imagning these beats sounding SIMILAR...

but using a sample and having the actual beat sound the same are different

and those beats mirror each other...


when I start making beats...I plan to sample many songs from the 80s...my fav. time for music...but the presentation is understood to be a sample from a famous song...It's not like IM making a beat and acting like iz all new or original...

c'mon man

Tha Q
Just shut the fuck up.

Word it's cool, Q, and damn kyro you on a stfu spree huh? lol... you come outta nowheres. dag.

lol, lately, I HAVE been using that phrase alot.
I say it alot in real life.
plus, I say it in a different voice, so its humorous to me.

Wtf, you reachin hard for that shit, you dont even have enough of Phenom's to even get a grasp of it, but it dont even sound bitten.

Kryo said something?

I have so many idiots on ignore...so please don't quote anyone u even SUSPECT has an IQ lower than my age


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Tha Q,m get off of people's nuts
ok WE KNOW YOU ARE GAY
You dont have to march around with spandex waving the rainbow flag around.
gosh

HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA..............were did i say its cool to copy a beat...if you watch the last video on that site he explains he his not copying......he states that trying to reproduce a beat thats already been made helps you to start understanding fruity loops and what it can do.......

he takes the song that just blaze used a samples it.....showing u how to make the oh boy beat.....if you've never sampled..or not good at it...its easy to sample something thats already been sampled and learn that way.....and thats what the videos are doing....hes not copying the beat for nothing...hes doing it for tutorials to help other producers.........

as for phenoms beat...it dnt even sound exactly the same........ :thumbup:

There's so much mis-information in this that it's a joke to even respond to it all. Have fun getting sonned in your own thread. No one agrees with you that he bit it. Everyone agrees it's the same sample. 1

Im'a leave this open so the Q can continue to look like an idiot.

doesn't have to sound exactly the same...

I can't wait until I teach myself and learn how to make beats...I'll even go to classes for it if I have to..all so I can make original beats...even if they suck...at least you won't say...."DAMN, that's Jay Z's beat"...or "WAIT, did Q just bite that"

nah yo...my shit gonna be mad original and something I can be proud of

nuff said

NOw...the idiot MODs can close this.

^^That dosen't mean your music won't have a sound that no one can't recognize. Unless you make "it" completely from raw materials using your own developmental process, NOTHING is original, for the last time. You're not the first person to think of it and you won't be the last and the mind only regurgitates and reorganizes things it already learned in order to make "new" things so what you're saying is literally impossible. Unless of course, you make your own instruments from scratch then find a way to get them to work with electronics to record their sounds directly which is just flat out rediculous. ESPECIALLY when it comes to making music with instruments and/or software because those are sounds that you're using to make "music". Sounds that someone else already made. Billions of people have made beats and music through out their lifetime. That in it self is unoriginal, as is the tools and processes you'd use to make it.

Forget it. You're lame for saying he bit it knowing he didn't, and you're even more lame for thinking you can make "original music". "I will do this or that eventually and become superman" type ideas hold no weight at all in the real world. Besides that, based on the songs you make, you're the LAST person that should be saying ANYTHING you infect is original.

you're the ONLY ONE out of a bored with 1000's of members sayin he bit the beat
die twice

It was actually called "I who have nothing" and yea it is Tom Jones. word.

Q - if you want to see me bite a beat, go to the new beat I made called "Trying to survive" - I copied it from Jin's beat "I quit" to prove I could make it almost identical. I did it to learn and heck yea I upped my samplin skill 100% with that new jam, but both beats I made from the ground up. If you think I bite beats, send me a sample of ANYthing, and I'll merk the fuck out of it.

ps - thanks for tryin to son me while I was on the road for the weekend, and not able to respond. And good lookin out to Immense, Will S. Unyu, Dooms, and whoever else, for recognizing I make beats.

FYI 'q' - 70% of my beats - I don't even use samples, I orchestrate everything from every chord keyed, to every string played. So lick dez nuts. word.

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Doomsday merked this thread, for real.

lol... woooooooord. It's prolly cause I gave him that beat. LOL

Phenom got merked by Dyce back in 98'

I don't ever remember that happenin... lol... but if you want to challenge me to a beat makin challenge - I'm down. Word.

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