Why do people hate on 50?
 

Why do people hate on 50?
Yes...the man has a basic rhyme scheme...and his content gets bombastic due to redundancy.
But look at what he DOES have
Animated flow, delivery, voice, writes good songs and catchy hooks

People hate cuz he doesn't have metas or lyrics about society...etc.
But he doesn't make that kinda music.......
He makes the "blast in ya room" type of music...And he is the best at that too.

Rapmusic is STILL music.So it's meant to be entertainment.
I don't see why ya'll got to hate on catchy hooks or dope beats.It seems to me,that when you guys hear a song that a lot of people like..and it has a catchy hook..you automatically label it "pop".And to me,that is fucking stupid.

I mean,I'm all for lyrics with multis and metas 'n wateva.But there are times I want to hear to simple ones that you can listen too without having to think about every line in order to get it.
SO........

Some times call for Rakim 'n Talib..some call for 50 'n his mainstream buddies :)
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Cuz he'd rather have money then Hip Hop.

Isn't the whole point of puttin out an album.......is to have have people buy it?

Thats not the whole point...ofcourse you wanna get money off it cuz its your profession, but he does it for the money only and sells out to the industry. Hip Hop is giving him money, not his record...but he keeps milking Hip Hop for all the money it has without giving back to it.

I do respect him for his marketing stratigys and the simple fact that within a fairly short period of time he went from being a nobody to one of the most recognised people in hip hop. You cant talk down on that..

However. In the last few years, rap's image has gone through a fairly large identity crisis and people like 50 Cent are at the forefront of this. Rappers dont like him because he has defined a steriotype that although not everyone aspires to, is still forced on a large portion of people involved in the rap industry. To industry cats now a days, his image is what is marketable, he has set a standard that is not only weak from an artists perspective but places bad expectations on our genre of music.

To put it more simple..
He sucks, but got popular and now a lot of other rappers who suck are getting big because their seen as 'safe' to invest in for record companies. I believe this is just a stage hip hop is going through and the sooner rappers like 50 Cent start to fade away the better.

I hope this answers your question...

what u mean "not giving back"?

I don't know about you...but I'd rather have money than "save hip-hop".
If you wanna spend ur whole life trying to be some "messiah" to some music genre while being broke as fuck with no money at all..fine.Have fun,knock urself out.
But I'd rather have money...and live in luxury 'n shit.That's what we all strive for as emcee's.To have as much people buy 'n like our music as possible.
And 50 was poor his whole life...I think he has a right to "milk" money from hip-hop as much as he want.

Selling-out to the industry?
How?
He makes good music.That should be enough.

^You have no clue what its about if you rather live in luxury then save real hip hop.

peace

Compose.............you are dense..

Tupac got rich as fuck off rap, biggie smalls got rich as fuck off rap..

Those are two of the most respected artists in history of this industry. Rap is an art form, I dont know if you realised pal, but artist's usually tend to want to make money off their art form in order to be able to live lives of luxury so they can do what they love doing.

A sell out is not only about money.. Its about neglecting your own personal message in order to please some record executive who wants you to fit a certain steriotype. Money is part of it, but in no way is the sole reason.

Sell out's exist in every business. You have such a warped idea of what hip hop is and how it should be done. It IS possable to be a dope rapper and still aim to make money off of rap.

I know your type exactly..
Your a kid that idolises canibus and thinks that all rappers should be recluded self absorbed morons who hate conformists and want hip hop to be just for hip hop heads alone with no money involved..

I know you prolly got an answer for that.. But when reality kicks in at a certain age you WILL start to understand why your wrong..

I understand what your saying and you can make music off rap theres no problem with that, but all Im saying is stay true to yourself to do it...like you said dont sellout to an executive for a certain stereotype to do it and thats what the majority of rap is doing today and thats why I dont like it...because theyre making money off of bullshit and not staying true to themselves. Id rather be comfortable in an apartment and still talk real hip hop, then be rich and talk about guns, hoes etc.

^Werd............

it is?

Last I heard hip-hop was about expressing yourself.(yes..yourself)
50 Lived a life based on crime 'n gangs.Why the fuck can't he rap about it?
He wants to rap about what HE wants...not what YOU want.

But seriously...since when is hip-hop been about getting away from crime 'n gangs?

I dont like 50 cent. I think his delivery is boring and emotionless and I hate his tracks and the fact that everyone loves his music.

But I respect him, because I give respect where respect is due. I dont respect him for being a dickhead and having beef or selling a lot of records. I respect him because hes doing what he loves doing, and getting paid fat sums for it. He's basically reached what we all strive for.

U serious?
The man has one of the most animated deliveries in the game.

How can it be boring?

Nah not guns and hoes..

What you need is a movement..
Thats what rap on a successful level is all about..

Getting rich through the the industry isnt a bad thing like you try and make out.. Its just not done properly by a lot of rappers.. But a lot of rappers dont know jack shit of what their doing and thats why a lot of rappers get stuck in that almost famous stage and never really progress..

Love it or hate it, 50 Cent had a movement.. He turned beef into a commodity and got famous off using it as a buzz word to sell music.. He is smarter than a lot of people give him credit for.. But that wont gain him respect after what hes done to raps image..

He lacks emotion. Sounds like hes droning on and on... This is in his newer shit though. He should have kept his old style from tracks like how to rob and applied it to different subject matter to make it marketable, instead of changing his style for the worse.

^Yea...thats what im saying (to Nos)...I hate him and all of the rest cuz they keep fucking up the image and if you mention rap to someone they think its about cars, hoes etc. and thats fucked up.



That was the main focus of it when it was started...dumbass.

Oh yea Id like to add...even though 50 cent, and all of these other rappers are contributing to the downfall of real hip hop...I think the worst part of it is the radio...because they're not switching up anything and they keep playing them 24/7 fucking up everyones head, I used to be a closet rapper in school, but recently now kids know and I was askin some of my friends if they knew who Juice or Supernatural was and they didnt know, all they knew wad dipset, the lox, and gunit...and it pisses me off that artists who spend their whole lives honing their skills, adding wordplay, having complex rhyme schemes and everything get tossed to the side...THATS why I hate people like 50 cent and the radio, its not just 50 but its everyone who is involved with the industry putting it out more and more like the pac and big beef until one day its all gonna end.

And yea I know i made a mistake about that efex.

Go read about a dude called Kool Herc..

Rap started as a method of DJing and hosting parties... Basically the first rap concert was put on by kool herc, it was a big party, 20c to get in and he made over $300.. So more or less.. Rap's very first appearence on a public scene was to make money..

How you like that........

^lmao he wasnt talking about money he was talking about gangs...so that argument doesnt work.

But hip hop did actually start with the DJ's... its just eventually gangs preferred to battle by being creative and dancing or emceeing than killing eachother. Then they werent gangs, they were crews. I think efecx was a little confused...

Well maybe mister Juice 'n Supernatural need to work on writing good songs and catchy hooks if they want to be known.

You are so lost...please go back to your gunit records, real Hip Hop isnt for you.

See heres another area your going wrong at..

Radios play what makes for good music.. Keyword, music.. Not what has ill lyrics and wordplay.. Cause most people that arnt hip hop heads dont understand wordplay or its purpose unless its real simple shit..

Believe me man.. This is where underground rappers go wrong. They spend so much time trying to make tracks with sick multis and wordplay, but their taste in songs just isnt what people are interested in hearing or playing on the radio. Which means their shit will never be mass appeal and they can never reach the pinnicle of the rap industry no matter how skilled they are on a mic..

This is why you wont see rappers like canibus all over TV or all over the radio.. Becuase the music he makes just isnt mass appeal and his vocals are stange...(meaning not something you can jus bust put playing anywhere and everyone will be digging it) nahmean?

Ok...so the dude who created hip-hop made it with intentions of bringing it away from gangs 'n shit?

So that automatically means that everyone who likes hip-hop MUST do the same thing.....becuz that one guy did it like 20 years ago??

C'mon.
Hip-hop is not some follow the leader shit....I ain't gonna let what some guy did long ago hold me on a leash on what I can or can't rap about.

Hip-hop is about adding personilization to your shit.

once again...
you do what YOU want to do in rap...not what some guy in black spade shit did waaay back.

You're contradicting yourself. Who started hip hop? was the the black spades or kool herc and afrika bambaata?

You didnt read what I said.

"its just eventually gangs preferred to battle by being creative and dancing or emceeing than killing eachother." < I was agreeing with some of your point. But saying you were confused because you thought the leader of the black spades started hip hop. Over time, most people preferred to be in crews than in gangs was what I meant.

Yea I feel you...it just sucks that its like that =/ people who spend more time on their lyrics should get more money but oh well guess thats just the way it is.

And thats one of the main reasons I am so influenced by tupac. You can play his songs literally anywhere and people from all walks of life will be feeling the shit..

Talk down on his lyrics all you want, but on a music level... Dont go there my friend..

Meh.. The music I make is usually an upbeat mass appeal style, but I use underground rhyme schemes and stay true to my movement..

And yeah I wanna make money off hip hop.

So you understand why I was arguing the other day about that shit on aim..

So I get some shitty-ass beat,studder on the mic,make some gay-ass non-cathy hook....but I have some DOPE multis and wordplay..

and then I deserve money anyways?

Don't forget...it's still music...and the most important thing is for it to sound good.

I love tupac...he will always be one of the greatest of all time for me and always inspires me cuz he spoke the truth.

Yea...no doubt I wasnt tryin to knock you for makin money just dont sell out completely lol



Uh...Just because your underground doesnt mean you have shitty beats or you studder...you have an opinion on whats good music, and I have mine. I explained why I dont like 50, all you said was he makes good music.

becuz they need a more animated delivery..better song-writing skills.....and cathy hook writing.