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Mad Dog 10-11-05 08:48 AM

Cops Beat Some White Dude Up
 
Yea...it happens too

L. Veracity 10-11-05 09:04 AM

werd, but they always deserve it, you know COPs just walk around looking for random people not really doing anything iLLegal to beat up, I mean shit, we live in America...everyone hates black people here *rolls eyes*

P.S. who made the banner you got in your SIGy?..

Mad Dog 10-11-05 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
werd, but they always deserve it, you know COPs just walk around looking for random people not really doing anything iLLegal to beat up, I mean shit, we live in America...everyone hates black people here *rolls eyes*

P.S. who made the banner you got in your SIGy?..


The A.I sig = Chief...the avy i blacked out the background

and yo white dudes deserve it as much as black dudes...and by that i mean they don't...unless of course it's serious ish...but mostly uneccessary...my dad got pepper sprayed and beat by 4 cops a few weeks ago coz he was standin up to them...shit was crazy...he had an Asthma attack coz he reacted to the mixture in the spray they used and had to go hospital

Indeph 10-11-05 10:15 AM

Omg.. I make a thread showing a story of an event and instead of seeing how idiotic and wrong the event was you mock the thread and get on defense. God damn it grow the fuck up.

Mad Dog 10-11-05 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
Omg.. I make a thread showing a story of an event and instead of seeing how idiotic and wrong the event was you mock the thread and get on defense. God damn it grow the fuck up.


lol i read the story after makin this...yea it's fucked but in my eyes...i don't see why it was significant that he was black...dude was 64 so he's a pensioner...i woulda made the thread title

"Cops beat up some OAP"

why colour has to be bought into this is beyond me coz we'll get no-where wit equality as long as people are differentiating skin colour...

thats what i was trying to get across...but as always i've had to spell shit out

Indeph 10-11-05 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog
lol i read the story after makin this...yea it's fucked but in my eyes...i don't see why it was significant that he was black...dude was 64 so he's a pensioner...i woulda made the thread title

"Cops beat up some OAP"

why colour has to be bought into this is beyond me coz we'll get no-where wit equality as long as people are differentiating skin colour...

thats what i was trying to get across...but as always i've had to spell shit out


Because it played an obvious role. I'm sure you're aware about the new orleans newspaper's different wording of the same events. Like the black people "looting" and the white people "finding" shit. I just think that everytime a white man is involved with racism everyone gets on defence like "well black people do it too". Why can't we just except its bad and move on with it.

Mad Dog 10-11-05 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
Because it played an obvious role. I'm sure you're aware about the new orleans newspaper's different wording of the same events. Like the black people "looting" and the white people "finding" shit. I just think that everytime a white man is involved with racism everyone gets on defence like "well black people do it too". Why can't we just except its bad and move on with it.


na i ain't on the defensive it's jus some shit that happens isn't neccessarily to do wit colour...this case might have been like i said i read the thread AFTER making this...but if cops beat up a 21 year old...i could name loads of mates that have had similar encounters...cops are dickheads they think coz they have the right to enforce...that means they can use a beating as "reasonable force" like i said my old man got beat by the police and they were driving away and he was walkin shit and they stopped and came back...he wasn't doing nothing dangorous or illegal...

and also white men can't get a black man for a racist assault over here really...the law on racism is majorly one sided...but i ain't complaining although it sounds like it it's jus the police are fucked up and beating an OAP is disgusting...fuck the colour of the person how's an OAP gonna fight back?

Indeph 10-11-05 10:31 AM

Yeah I feel that. Cops assholes period. I only brought it up because of the history and shit. Its almost like an anniversery for the Rodney king thing. I feel you though. See if everyone spoke like mad dog did we wouldn't have race threads with 90 pages of arguing.

Mad Dog 10-11-05 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
Yeah I feel that. Cops assholes period. I only brought it up because of the history and shit. Its almost like an anniversery for the Rodney king thing. I feel you though. See if everyone spoke like mad dog did we wouldn't have race threads with 90 pages of arguing.


Yup i think people jus have to look a lil outside the "colour box" coz yea rasicm still exists and prolly will forever but some situations that occour may not be about colour...blah i ain't gonn say no more on this situation coz i'm on a speech high lol

Indeph 10-11-05 10:34 AM

Lol word, I'ma post to look at my illy sig again.

L. Veracity 10-11-05 10:44 AM

WTF is that in your banner NEway? :confused:...

Indeph 10-11-05 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
WTF is that in your banner NEway? :confused:...


Its a horribly made transparent sig.

leady 10-11-05 10:52 AM

on a serious note.

fuck race... we all bleed red, we all breath the same air, have the same emotions, drink the same water... so fuck a skin colour.

im with mad dog on this.

but will agree.. mad dog, its pointless tryna make these yanks understand.. they are still in the day and age of seperatism.

where as in the UK that shit is minor these days.

for example.

i went to a few hip hop events on my travels to the states, they where all black inside except maybe the odd one or two... unless it was in a white populated area then it was all white.

but you go to a hip hop event in any city in the UK.

look in the crowed and you will see, white, black, asian, indian, mixed race.. youll see a whole mixture of people.

this is one of many reasons why the UK is better than the US lol

L. Veracity 10-11-05 10:54 AM

whatever that means *shrugs*

all I see is a bunch of black and a little white

and werd, Leady's right...everything over here is split when it comes to music and race, people seem to believe that certain music is for a certain race, it's media brain-washing...

I can't deny that when I saw a big tall black guy on staGe with a country music band on the show "Las Vegas" that I was like "WTF?!" and then when he started rapping I was like "WHOA!!" but that's some shit you DON'T see everyday...

personally I don't like most country music, but it's not cuz white people do it (cuz Lawd knows I prolly like rock more than rap) but I just can't stand Southern accents and drawl and the sad sorry demeanor of most of the music...

Tha Q. 10-11-05 10:56 AM

Mad Dog...I hope this isn't an attempt to diminish the real problem we have here in America with discrimination.


But yea...white guys get their asses kicked too

Indeph 10-11-05 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by leady
on a serious note.

fuck race... we all bleed red, we all breath the same air, have the same emotions, drink the same water... so fuck a skin colour.

im with mad dog on this.

but will agree.. mad dog, its pointless tryna make these yanks understand.. they are still in the day and age of seperatism.

where as in the UK that shit is minor these days.

for example.

i went to a few hip hop events on my travels to the states, they where all black inside except maybe the odd one or two... unless it was in a white populated area then it was all white.

but you go to a hip hop event in any city in the UK.

look in the crowed and you will see, white, black, asian, indian, mixed race.. youll see a whole mixture of people.

this is one of many reasons why the UK is better than the US lol



Lol well UK is better. But US is a young country who started being industrialized by a few of UK's ignorant people. =/ So for US to say we're better then ya'll would be like saying you're better then someone who taught you everything you know.

Mad Dog 10-11-05 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by leady
but will agree.. mad dog, its pointless tryna make these yanks understand.. they are still in the day and age of seperatism.

where as in the UK that shit is minor these days.


i ain't with you on that...

jus coz there's more white people and other races in hip hop venues it doesn't mean for a second that shit isn't as bad over here as over there...it's just means in my point of view that hip hop as a culture is more relaxed and more accepting towards other peoples of race and diversity...but you still got racist wankers out there...i mean KKK got 4 well known units in the UK i read up the other day...you see how many people are members of that KKK site i showed RV?...and a lot of of UK origin too...

L. Veracity 10-11-05 11:02 AM

check my post on the previous paGe, I've EDITed...

leady 10-11-05 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog
i ain't with you on that...

jus coz there's more white people and other races in hip hop venues it doesn't mean for a second that shit isn't as bad over here as over there...it's just means in my point of view that hip hop as a culture is more relaxed and more accepting towards other peoples of race and diversity...but you still got racist wankers out there...i mean KKK got 4 well known units in the UK i read up the other day...you see how many people are members of that KKK site i showed RV?...and a lot of of UK origin too...


tell me where i said, it doesnt exist in this country????

i only used the hip hop culture thing as an EXAMPLE to prove my point.

look at our schools, more multi-cultural than american, american schools are mostly again seperated into race.

look at where people live, one again, they are multi-cultured.

america.. near enough all the run down places in america are populated by black people, thats something down to the government e.t.c

look at the council estates in our country... white, black, indian, asian populated... generally all living togeather rather than seperated into different areas for each race

the list is endless... the police over here are alot less likely to have bad actions due to discrimination.

the problem in this country is actually extremely minor compared to what its like in countries like america.

my family/relatives consist of white, black and indian.... i coud use so many examples to prove my point, but you obviously didnt take my EXAMPLE for what it was... an EXAMPLE.

Mad Dog 10-11-05 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Mad Dog...I hope this isn't an attempt to diminish the real problem we have here in America with discrimination.


But yea...white guys get their asses kicked too


Na not at all...i know racism here n all jus sometimes...the race card isn't needed ya feel me?

Indeph 10-11-05 11:11 AM

See if america was more like the UK I'd have alot more country pride. UK seems alot more mature. But our problems make our music illy. :cool:

leady 10-11-05 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
See if america was more like the UK I'd have alot more country pride. UK seems alot more mature. But our problems make our music illy. :cool:


but our more open mind, makes our music more diverse, more original and alot more enjoyable.

for example

in america a white guy jumps on stage n says suttin like "america just witnessed u loose to a white guy" in a battle verse, ppl would laugh n be like "this kids got balls" e.t.c

but if that happened over here, that dude would get heckled n taunted n be dissed to fuck.

meaning that you have to come more creative when it comes to your battle verses.. meaning more skill is needed :thumbup:

Indeph 10-11-05 11:16 AM

Yeah that's actually true. Lol Over here everyone mentions race. "yeah I'm a white rapper!" *audience goes OOOOOOOOO*

Mad Dog 10-11-05 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by leady
tell me where i said, it doesnt exist in this country????

i only used the hip hop culture thing as an EXAMPLE to prove my point.

look at our schools, more multi-cultural than american, american schools are mostly again seperated into race.

look at where people live, one again, they are multi-cultured.

america.. near enough all the run down places in america are populated by black people, thats something down to the government e.t.c

look at the council estates in our country... white, black, indian, asian populated.

the list is endless... the police over here are alot less likely to have bad actions due to discrimination.

the problem in this country is actually extremely minor compared to what its like in countries like america.

my family/relatives consist of white, black and indian.... i coud use so many examples to prove my point, but you obviously didnt take my EXAMPLE for what it was... an EXAMPLE.


wow you deffo get mad when people don't see ya point...jus coz we all living together it don't mean we're ALL happy people...what i'm trying to say and i do hear you when you say it's minor to U.S.A...but not minor...

Racial tension in my area is mad...asians only hang around wit Asians coz we used to have turf wars in Broadfield area coz Asian folk was takin ground and makin it their own...the amount of African people in Crawley now is astronomical to what it was 2-3 years ago...i hear people talkin angrily about how immigrants and people from other countries get better benefits and how they ain't need to work coz they over here and get a house straight off get grants...and we're left to struggle...believe me i know...

it's a lot easier now here though but some people are still angry as fuck coz basically this country is our home and they get more rights...but again some is racial tension others are pissed @ the way the government handles this ish...so i do see what you mean i'm jus saying...it's more bad than you make out and i'm saying it how i see it ain't no readin up facts and ish

Acuity 10-11-05 11:28 AM

leady...imo, it isnt that the racial situation isn't as "bad" as US, it is simply the fact that the proportion of black populus in the US is multiple times gretaer than that in UK, therefore incidents are secluded to certain areas...tell mans in southall that racial tension is a myth, or tell blacks in inner city london that thay have equal rights and watch them laugh...discrimination, stereotype, prejudice in UK against blacks and ethnic minorities is still there ...BELIEVE ME...it is simply 1) british ppl love to sweep shit under the carpet 2) level of high-end crime in UK is miniscule compared to that of America, therefore anything that does happen is a media frenzy...

Mad Dog..do NOT be NAIVE, ur cleverer than that...cops beating up white suspects is defienently an occurance but i can GURANTEE it will not happen as readily as white police beating up a black suspect...ur a fool if u think otherwise...

Your whole..."lets not differntiate between races" crap, is exactly whats wrong with Britain, brits love to sweep shit under the carpet and pretend everything is sweet and daisy, get zi fook outta here, thats why crime, guns n racial tension in many areas is increasing...when Diane Abbot (black female MP for Hackney)...told police "guns are flooding our innerc ity ares which unfortunately are primarily black" their chief replied "i don't care, doesnt matter as long as they are not shooting at my men"...because he assumed it was jus dumb ass niggaz shootin up dumb ass niggaz,,,now that white youts r dieing every in UK wants to blame hiphop and black artists, get the fook oudda here....


P.S - im lean :thumbup:

leady 10-11-05 11:32 AM

wow you deffo get mad when people don't see ya point...jus coz we all living together it don't mean we're ALL happy people

where did i say that we are???

"Racial tension in my area is mad...asians only hang around wit Asians coz we used to have turf wars in Broadfield area coz Asian folk was takin ground and makin it their own...the amount of African people in Crawley now is astronomical to what it was 2-3 years ago...i hear people talkin angrily about how immigrants and people from other countries get better benefits and how they ain't need to work coz they over here and get a house straight off get grants...and we're left to struggle...believe me i know..."

the reason people say that is because its true.... thats our governments fault though, not the immigrants fault.. if the government said no, or said you have to earn you living then this problem wouldnt exist, but they dont. but just because people talk about something like, does not make them racist which kinda goes away from the topic we are stating.... i used to live in west bowling in bradford, it is now run by people of indian nationality(or pakistani or which ever other one as theres too many to list).. but it used to be run by whites and black, who both stuck togeather, and there was even alot of indian families who stuck with whites and didnt hold no racial boundaries, just the odd families that did which created the problems.

"it's a lot easier now here though but some people are still angry as fuck coz basically this country is our home and they get more rights...but again some is racial tension others are pissed @ the way the government handles this ish...so i do see what you mean i'm jus saying...it's more bad than you make out and i'm saying it how i see it ain't no readin up facts and ish"

this refers to my other comment.. it isnt racial disgrimination, its just aggression towards the government because of what they do. i know in leeds when they had immigrants moving into leeds, they gave them homes and a small amount to get them by, but the council stated they had to find a job within 3 months or they loose the home and have to pay back the money. and that they would be checking up with the places of work in order to see they are working properly e.t.c e.t.c.... so our council basically did its best to make sure everybody got equal treatment... but once again thats not a racial issue... its a political issue.... race can be a problem here.... but unlike america you can walk into any area of england and you dont worry bout the racial devide... u just worry about anybody attacking from any race rather than it being "will a black man jump me" or "will a white man jump me" or w/e

Tha Q. 10-11-05 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog
Na not at all...i know racism here n all jus sometimes...the race card isn't needed ya feel me?



I feel you. But, what we need to understand is that the issue of race does come up sometimes in this country. I've always felt like this. No one, NO ONE can hold me down, white or black. I really don't care if the Grand BASTARD of the Ku Klux Klan doesn't like me because of my golden brown skin. I'm only concerned with what's due me. By that I mean this. If I work for a white man, anyman, for 5 hours at a rate of 5 dollars an hour, GIVE ME MY 25 dollars at the end of the day. That's all there is to it. Anyone who allows themselves to be hindered because of superficial and trivial traits such as skin color, or uses that as a crutch needs to reevaluate their strategy. The glass ceiling is real. But, remember, it's made out of "GLASS" and glass can shatter eaasily.


Nuff said

leady 10-11-05 11:35 AM

acuity.. i read this and stopped reading

"tell mans in southall that racial tension is a myth, or tell blacks in inner city london that thay have equal rights and watch them laugh...discrimination, stereotype, prejudice in UK against blacks and ethnic minorities is still there ...BELIEVE ME"

why did i stop reading/??? you totally missed my point... i never once stated it doesnt exist.. i said the level of it is not that bad, especially compared to america... theres a difference.

jesus, i wish people would read properly before tryna comment on something i said.

L. Veracity 10-11-05 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog
some people are still angry as fuck coz basically this country is our home and they get more rights...but again some is racial tension others are pissed @ the way the government handles this ish...so i do see what you mean i'm jus saying...it's more bad than you make out and i'm saying it how i see it ain't no readin up facts and ish


aiight here, I can admit that sometimes I see people (Indian, Asian, sometimes Hispanic) people owning businesses and I'm like, why is it that people in the "hood" with businesses aren't even black people?...or people that own businesses PERIOD...people rom other countries come here and do well for themselves, but people that have lived here all their lives don't have the same opportunities...

morethan likely it's not even that we don't HAVE the same opportunities, we just don't KNOW that we have opportunities to get money from the government just as an immigrant coming here does...iono how they be gettin' all that money to start up shops and stuff, I have no idea...I just wish that people in thisdamn country that were born and raised here were made readily aware of their opportunities...

but that's totally off the topic of race *shrugs*

Mad Dog 10-11-05 11:58 AM

wow a real discussion here...UK pop and US pop is different = stats on US racial crimes would be higher in statistics...yes

i ain't sayin everthings hunky dorey as well...infact what i was saying is sometimes people shouldn't use the race card so easily when there could be another or deeper reason...

Leady again i didn't mean you to think the whole immigrant thing was racial...i know it's political but some people reflect their anger on immigrants...because it's them claiming and shit...not paying taxes and blah...

Keepin it simple coz my head hurts lol

Meta.Phor.T.Cal 10-11-05 12:07 PM

Ima Tell U Sumthin Rite Now!! Da Worse Place 4 Police Brutality Is South Africa.

.Judicial. 10-11-05 09:07 PM

if u had to walk around with a wack ass uniform being all tight against ur body at that u would feel like beatin sum 1's ass too lol...

Magic5 10-12-05 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
Because it played an obvious role. I'm sure you're aware about the new orleans newspaper's different wording of the same events. Like the black people "looting" and the white people "finding" shit. I just think that everytime a white man is involved with racism everyone gets on defence like "well black people do it too". Why can't we just except its bad and move on with it.


Look at it again, dumbass.

It was two different newspapers.

Magic5 10-12-05 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
werd, but they always deserve it, you know COPs just walk around looking for random people not really doing anything iLLegal to beat up, I mean shit, we live in America...everyone hates black people here *rolls eyes*

P.S. who made the banner you got in your SIGy?..


Wow @ how you so easily make yourself look like a dumbass in every thread.

Cocaine 10-12-05 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
Omg.. I make a thread showing a story of an event and instead of seeing how idiotic and wrong the event was you mock the thread and get on defense. God damn it grow the fuck up.



correction.. u werent showing event.. u were showing racism.. and if u werent u wouldnt titled the thread Cops beat some BLACK dude..

Magic5 10-12-05 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
morethan likely it's not even that we don't HAVE the same opportunities, we just don't KNOW that we have opportunities to get money from the government just as an immigrant coming here does...iono how they be gettin' all that money to start up shops and stuff, I have no idea...I just wish that people in thisdamn country that were born and raised here were made readily aware of their opportunities...


You ever heard of gaining capital?

Considering our economy is run through capitalism.. what do you think you need to do be successful?!

WHOOO. GAIN CAPITAL! EVERYBODY CELEBRATE.

It's their own fucking fault if they don't know what their opportunites are.

Magic5 10-12-05 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Apostrophe
correction.. u werent showing event.. u were showing racism.. and if u werent u wouldnt titled the thread Cops beat some BLACK dude..


Apostrophe's throwing on that merk face, for real.

Blay'all 10-12-05 03:57 PM

I have to side with Deph on this one... there IS a problem with discrimination and racism STILL present in this country, and its wrong when somebody talks about it?


Mad Dog, its beyond all of us why race would have anything to do with this, but the fact is it did, and it does. You cant act like everything that has ever happened in the past of our nation's racial struggles never occured, because that was our VERY recent history and the shit is still going on ALL over.

Cocaine 10-12-05 04:01 PM

i dont disagree that racism is still in our country.. i just found it very embarassing as a United States Citizen hearing these dumb fucks saying u'll never see a 3 black dudes beat a white dude.. these people are acting like racism is only with Whites.. when that is quite possibly the most absurd thing i've ever heard..


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