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Blay'all 10-19-05 01:29 PM

NBA Dress Code - Racist?
 
okay, so in case you havent heard, the NBA just started a new dress code... no white tee's, jerseys, chains, or sunglasses on the way too or from games, practices or appearences... a pair of slacks and business-like attire, such as a suit, is mandatory

Now, some people are saying that this is a ploy against the hip-hop culture and others have even gone as far as to say that it is racist. The other side of the issue is that the players are employees, and most workplaces have dress codes..... but I dunno, it seems kinda dumb to me that ALLL of these guys are the ones with talent doing their thing and then some rich white owners are trying to sit up in their press box telling them how to dress.

Magic5 10-19-05 01:33 PM

Lmao. Dressing professionally is racist?

Stop pulling the race card with every fucking thing. It's not a big deal, and in no way, shape, or form is dressing formal racist.

Fucking Jesus.

Blay'all 10-19-05 01:35 PM

wooooooooah, this shit was on ESPN

IM not pulling anything



unless you were referring to the general people making that argument
I just presented to RV what I saw on TV, it had the exact same title as this thread on ESPN


and the reason they are saying it is racist is because it is against hip-hop culture, and most of the people inside hip-hop culture AND inside the NBA are, in fact, black.

Viva 10-19-05 01:35 PM

yes. everything in this world is rascist especially if its against 'black culture' :bored:

Vango 10-19-05 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
Lmao. Dressing professionally is racist?

Stop pulling the race card with every fucking thing. It's not a big deal, and in no way, shape, or form is dressing formal racist.

Fucking Jesus.



Not its not racist it's just culturally biased. Meaning they are targeting the hip hop culture, which is ironic because the NBA has made millions of dollars of marketing embracing this and now they say no chains, no throwbacks. I don't have a problem with the dress codes, but saying no chains over clothes and shit is taking a bit to the extreme.

Blay'all 10-19-05 01:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vango
Not its not racist it's just culturally biased. Meaning they are targeting the hip hop culture, which is ironic because the NBA has made millions of dollars of marketing embracing this and now they say no chains, no throwbacks. I don't have a problem with the dress codes, but saying no chains over clothes and shit is taking a bit to the extreme.

yes, exactly


just like clubs exploit the hip-hop culture to make their money, play all hip-hop music, then have a sign outside that nobody can get in wearing plain white tees or flat brimmed hats. rediculous.

Magic5 10-19-05 01:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by I-NOC
wooooooooah, this shit was on ESPN

IM not pulling anything



unless you were referring to the general people making that argument
I just presented to RV what I saw on TV, it had the exact same title as this thread on ESPN


and the reason they are saying it is racist is because it is against hip-hop culture, and most of the people inside hip-hop culture AND inside the NBA are, in fact, black.


How is it against the hip hop culture? I don't know if you've ever been in a business environment, but coming in with "chains" and saggy pants and shit isn't professional.

It's not against hip hop, that's not what it's about. It's not like they're making NBA players throw out their hip hop clothes and replace them with suits. They can still wear that shit in the offseason, informal situations, etc.

Magic5 10-19-05 01:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vango
Not its not racist it's just culturally biased. Meaning they are targeting the hip hop culture, which is ironic because the NBA has made millions of dollars of marketing embracing this and now they say no chains, no throwbacks. I don't have a problem with the dress codes, but saying no chains over clothes and shit is taking a bit to the extreme.


Is it a little extreme? Probably.

So what? Do "chains" really serve a gigantic purpose in the hip hop culture? They still allow them to listen to rap, rap, etc. It's just their clothes, and if youc an't embrace the hip hop culture without all that shit, then you're an idiot.

Blay'all 10-19-05 01:45 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
How is it against the hip hop culture? I don't know if you've ever been in a business environment, but coming in with "chains" and saggy pants and shit isn't professional.

It's not against hip hop, that's not what it's about. It's not like they're making NBA players throw out their hip hop clothes and replace them with suits. They can still wear that shit in the offseason, informal situations, etc.

did you read the second part of my original post?
thats exactly what i said the other side of the argument was....


but in my opinion, like vango said the NBA makes money off of and markets the hip-hop culture, its not like other normal "businesses" and its unfair to compare it to one in this situation....

Viva 10-19-05 01:45 PM

yes.........yes they are@efecx

Magic5 10-19-05 01:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by I-NOC
yes, exactly


just like clubs exploit the hip-hop culture to make their money, play all hip-hop music, then have a sign outside that nobody can get in wearing plain white tees or flat brimmed hats. rediculous.


You guys are so fucking retarded. White tees and flat brimmed hats don't do shit for the hip hop culture. It's fucking clothes. Is it really that hard for you to go into a club without your hat on for one day and not whine like a bitch about it? Seriously, it's not that big of a deal.

Blay'all 10-19-05 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by efecx
lmfao not wearin a kind of clothes is racist :huh:

but seriosuyl tia int a big deal all other sports there players have to wear suits on the way n bk from games

wat your fogetin is this aint them kplayin on the corner this is there jobs n thats there uniform....so is mcdonalds racist cause they make there staff wear uniforms???

nooooo, these players wear their uniform when they're on the job
thats when theyre playing, on the court.....


does mcdonalds make people wear a certain clothing when they're LEAVING work? No. If you wanna compare, thats the comparison.....

Magic5 10-19-05 01:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by I-NOC
did you read the second part of my original post?
thats exactly what i said the other side of the argument was....


but in my opinion, like vango said the NBA makes money off of and markets the hip-hop clothing, its not like other normal "businesses" and its unfair to compare it to one in this situation....


How is it unfair? Basketball is their job.

Magic5 10-19-05 01:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by I-NOC
nooooo, these players wear their uniform when they're on the job
thats when theyre playing, on the court.....


does mcdonalds make people wear a certain clothing when they're LEAVING work? No. If you wanna compare, thats the comparison.....


Basketball is a bigger job then McDonalds. Let's get the comparisons going. A lawyer can't just take off his suit once the jury gives the decision. You have to keep that shit on, looking professional all the way out.. and you can't change into a suit when you get into court either. It's a job. Dress professionally.

Blay'all 10-19-05 01:49 PM

Mim I meant to say hip-hop culture instead of clothing, not that that makes a difference, but I edited the original.....


but yes, basketball is their job.... and when they're playing basketball, they wear their uniforms and follow the dress code... but leaving work isnt their job.

Blay'all 10-19-05 01:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
Basketball is a bigger job then McDonalds. Let's get the comparisons going. A lawyer can't just take off his suit once the jury gives the decision. You have to keep that shit on, looking professional all the way out.. and you can't change into a suit when you get into court either. It's a job. Dress professionally.

right, well okay you said you couldnt compare mcdonalds to basketball for certain reasons....

well, you cant compare being a lawyer to being in the NBA either, lawyers make their money from being professional and that fits their profession, do lawyers wear jerseys and play a sport while they are ON their job? No, the way that basketball players make their money fits hip-hop culture and clothing, a white tee and jeans is appropriate... thats the image they have on and off the court, and thats the image the NBA uses to sell apparel

Magic5 10-19-05 01:53 PM

THE NBA WANTS THEM TO LOOK PROFESSIONAL.

Jesus, is it that hard for you to grasp that "chains" and saggy pants aren't professional? It doesn't matter that they're leaving, or coming, or whatever. It's not fucking racist to make them wear a suit on their way out.

Shit.

Viva 10-19-05 01:53 PM

this is a joke right? My school wears uniforms, we have to wear our uniforms according to the rules whether we're in skool or not, we still have to wear them the way the school asks us to, on the way to school and on the way home. Footballers (soccer) wear suits on the way to games, after games at meetings, interviews, then u see them on the street wearing jeans and a tee, u dress for ur job it aint that much to ask and it aint rascist either, no wonder shit hasnt moved on in america if ppl pull the race card at every given opportunity however stupid it may be.

Magic5 10-19-05 01:55 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by I-NOC
right, well okay you said you couldnt compare mcdonalds to basketball for certain reasons....

well, you cant compare being a lawyer to being in the NBA either, lawyers make their money from being professional and that fits their profession, do lawyers wear jerseys and play a sport while they are ON their job? No, the way that basketball players make their money fits hip-hop culture and clothing, a white tee and jeans is appropriate... thats the image they have on and off the court, and thats the image the NBA uses to sell apparel


They make their money playing basketball. That doesn't fit the hip hop culture. Nobody fucking describes the hip hop culture with playing basketball. It's all about the clothing, and the NBA wants them to look professionally on their to and from the stadiums. It's not a big fucking deal.

Blay'all 10-19-05 01:55 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
THE NBA WANTS THEM TO LOOK PROFESSIONAL.

Jesus, is it that hard for you to grasp that "chains" and saggy pants aren't professional? It doesn't matter that they're leaving, or coming, or whatever. It's not fucking racist to make them wear a suit on their way out.

Shit.

see, now you just totally jump out of the argument and go back to your original, basic point that lead into this discussion and you being proven wrong


and i never argued that this was racist, I say it targets the hip-hop culture thought, and because of the nature of the NBA and how they market that very culture, that is wrong.

Blay'all 10-19-05 01:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
They make their money playing basketball. That doesn't fit the hip hop culture. Nobody fucking describes the hip hop culture with playing basketball. It's all about the clothing, and the NBA wants them to look professionally on their to and from the stadiums. It's not a big fucking deal.

i was just saying, if you cant compare mcdonalds to the NBA, then you definitely cant compare law to the NBA either.... there was no basis in that comparison

Blay'all 10-19-05 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Eire~
this is a joke right? My school wears uniforms, we have to wear our uniforms according to the rules whether we're in skool or not, we still have to wear them the way the school asks us to, on the way to school and on the way home. Footballers (soccer) wear suits on the way to games, after games at meetings, interviews, then u see them on the street wearing jeans and a tee, u dress for ur job it aint that much to ask and it aint rascist either, no wonder shit hasnt moved on in america if ppl pull the race card at every given opportunity however stupid it may be.

Im not arguing that its racist, but whatever school you go to doesnt market hip-hop clothing either, Im sure.


shit, I saw we let the guys do their job, play ball and live their lives how they want to.... like AI said - "putting a murderer in a suit doesnt make him not a killer." What are they trying to protect?

Magic5 10-19-05 01:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Eire~
this is a joke right? My school wears uniforms, we have to wear our uniforms according to the rules whether we're in skool or not, we still have to wear them the way the school asks us to, on the way to school and on the way home. Footballers (soccer) wear suits on the way to games, after games at meetings, interviews, then u see them on the street wearing jeans and a tee, u dress for ur job it aint that much to ask and it aint rascist either, no wonder shit hasnt moved on in america if ppl pull the race card at every given opportunity however stupid it may be.


Exactly. You dress for the job.

Vango 10-19-05 01:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
Is it a little extreme? Probably.

So what? Do "chains" really serve a gigantic purpose in the hip hop culture? They still allow them to listen to rap, rap, etc. It's just their clothes, and if youc an't embrace the hip hop culture without all that shit, then you're an idiot.



Here's what your missing the NBA made big dollars promoting it's players using elements of the hip hop culture. Then one day you want to come in and say theres a dress code, that's extreme. Players should probably look nice when in public, but don't cramp their style. The way you wear an outfit, suit or whatever, might not be the same why someone else does. It's called personal style, and sometimes that includes accessories, chains, etc.... whatever.

Blay'all 10-19-05 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by efecx
but mcdonalds dont giv a fuck wat u do after work

the NBA does

n wen they are made to wear suits there job is not over travelling is apart of the job itts not like they live 5 mins away they hav to travels hundreds of miles sumtimes for games n that is apart of the job so its the nba;s decision wat they wear then cause its apart of the job

LMAO, EXACTLY!!!!


you're the one that compared them.....
I was arguing that you cant compare them, thank you for helping me

Viva 10-19-05 01:59 PM

well the title of the thread is about racism.

amd ur stereotyping and judging ppl anyways. Not every nba player (black or otherwise) is into hip hop, so ur bein prejudice. Maybe the team has to wear suits to stop the differences being so obvious (hence the reason for skool uniforms) so maybe the suits have a practical purpose as well as just being professional.

Magic5 10-19-05 02:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by I-NOC
i was just saying, if you cant compare mcdonalds to the NBA, then you definitely cant compare law to the NBA either.... there was no basis in that comparison


OH MY FUCKING GOD.

Efecx comes out with a comparison to McDonalds. You went out of your way to further argue with that comparison by telling him McDonalds employees dont have to wear the suit after their shift, so I come with a comparison that fits, but since you can't argue with this one all of sudden their is no basis?

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU ARGUE OVER THE MCDONALDS SHIT, THEN? THERE WAS NO BASIS TO THAT ONE EITHER, QUEERBOY.

Blay'all 10-19-05 02:01 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by efecx
because hip-hop isnt apart of normal jobs 90% or more of people in school will hav the dress smart for there jobs or for job interviews so thats wat the skoo uniform is doin its getting u use to dressin smart because more than likely u will hav to wen your older

lmao, you are making no sense


I dont even know where to start, I was saying the NBA markets hip-hop culture.... and you said you're gonna have to dress nice in the future when you apply to jobs? This isnt about me, and I doubt Im going to be applying for a job in the NBA. Any statement that other jobs dont market hip-hop is supporting my argument.

Magic5 10-19-05 02:02 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by I-NOC
see, now you just totally jump out of the argument and go back to your original, basic point that lead into this discussion and you being proven wrong


and i never argued that this was racist, I say it targets the hip-hop culture thought, and because of the nature of the NBA and how they market that very culture, that is wrong.


How are you going to prove me wrong? There is nothing to prove.

This is a discussion about what we think of the dress code. You're just the only fucking idiot to actually think that the "white people in the offices" are trying to smash the hip hop culture by making them dress professionally to and from their jobs.

Just shut the fuck up.

Magic5 10-19-05 02:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by I-NOC
Im not arguing that its racist, but whatever school you go to doesnt market hip-hop clothing either, Im sure.


shit, I saw we let the guys do their job, play ball and live their lives how they want to.... like AI said - "putting a murderer in a suit doesnt make him not a killer." What are they trying to protect?


But yet you made the thread title "NBA Dress Code - Racist?"

They can play ball and live their lives, but you dress for the job.

It's not that fucking hard to grasp.

Blay'all 10-19-05 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Eire~
well the title of the thread is about racism.

amd ur stereotyping and judging ppl anyways. Not every nba player (black or otherwise) is into hip hop, so ur bein prejudice. Maybe the team has to wear suits to stop the differences being so obvious (hence the reason for skool uniforms) so maybe the suits have a practical purpose as well as just being professional.

the dress code specifically said "no white tees, jerseys (which IS their fucking uniform!!!!), ect".... which does kind of call-out the hip-hop culture

Blay'all 10-19-05 02:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
But yet you made the thread title "NBA Dress Code - Racist?"

They can play ball and live their lives, but you dress for the job.

It's not that fucking hard to grasp.

THAT WAS THE FUCKING TITLE OF THE ARTICLE, I DIDNT MAKE UP THIS ARGUMENT!!!!!

Jesus, is THAT so hard to grasp?


I didnt just think that this was messed up then made thread about it, this is a debate going on in the real world. You know that place, OUTSIDE of RV?

Magic5 10-19-05 02:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by I-NOC
the dress code specifically said "no white tees, jerseys (which IS their fucking uniform!!!!), ect".... which does kind of call-out the hip-hop culture


NO IT DOESN'T.

It forces people to dress professionally for their job. Their fucking job isn't just playing basketball and call it a day.

Blay'all 10-19-05 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by efecx
bearly no other job lets u wear that either y are u not tryin to argue wit them n call them racist or discriminating against hip-hop

they wont let u wear it cause it dont look professional not because they hate the hiphop culture

BECAUSE THEY MARKET THE HIP-HOP CULTURE!!!!!!!!!!!


Jesus people, pay attention.

and what the hell is "bearly"?


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