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Terumoto 11-05-05 09:27 PM

Why is there no such thing as rap idol?
 
You know, like american idol, but instead of singing, its rapping.

It would be so popular, I dont understand why they havent made it.

K.ontroverz.Y 11-05-05 09:29 PM

because then after that they would have to make a rock idol, dance idol, country idol, raggae idol and so on. Everyone would be complaining and shit because they make a hiphop idol and not any other type of music.

i think im right but im blazed right now so

La Cosa Nostra 11-05-05 09:30 PM

One of the dudes from the black eyed pea's is comming to australia to do a show mid-next year where he will take a bunch of rappers and lyricists that show promise and put them through a sort of boot camp with the end result being one of them gets signed...

Mad idea.... Hell, I'd go in it myself if I wasnt gonna be signed by then... It'd be hilarious being on a show like that when ya better than the cunt thats running it.....

Ysdat 11-05-05 09:31 PM

i thought missy elliot done one.

meh, it would be gay anyway.

KOOL COL-B 11-05-05 09:34 PM

makin tha band 2...? werd

L. Veracity 11-05-05 09:42 PM

NOS...an Australian rapper would probably not get anywhere trying to sell records in the U.S...I can honestly say that's the accent I've had the most difficult time decyphering, besides Irish, when it comes to rap...these stupid kids here can't decypher people with U.K. accents and they represent the population of most rap listeners, they wouldn't be able to understand an Australian head...

and ya never know if you'll be signed by then or not...you should try out anyway...if you get signed then you get signed by then and you'll be doing ya thing, if not then you get to be on the show...either way, ya can't go wrong...
you should try out anyway...

but werd @ Kon...if they did "rap idol" they'd have to do every other idol...they already did a "dance" show that was supposed to be modeled after American Idol...hate to sound racist but honestly the people that voTe for A.I. are generally white people, that's why all the shitty people like that skinny white boi Anthony whatever were left on the show this past season and all the good people were off madd early, all the black girls and even Constantine, got voTed off before him...

white people wouldn't know who to voTe for on no shit like that...they'd botch it all up, it'd never work unless that shit was on BET and even then, you'd have a bunch of white kids from the suburbs that think they know anything about talent in rap vTing for the person talking about cars and ice the most, therefore botching it up...something like "Rap Idol" would never be successful and have any kind of legitimiZed credibility for a "true emcee"...

K.ontroverz.Y 11-05-05 09:42 PM

word. There is actually alot of hiphop competitions.

L. Veracity 11-05-05 09:46 PM

Making The Band 2 was hawt but then Choppa got big headed and so did the rest of 'em and they all got dropped fomr Bad Boy or ain't doin' shit even if they ARE still signed to Bad Boy lmao...

wasn't there a rap competition thing on MTV as well?...whatever happened to that guy?...wasn't he supposed to get signed and shit?..where'd HE go?...same lace every other winner from a rap competition goes...NOWHERE!!

Ysdat 11-05-05 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
NOS...an Australian rapper would probably not get anywhere trying to sell records in the U.S...I can honestly say that's the accent I've had the most difficult time decyphering, besides Irish, when it comes to rap...these stupid kids here can't decypher people with U.K. accents and they represent the population of most rap listeners, they wouldn't be able to understand an Australian head...

and ya never know if you'll be signed by then or not...you should try out anyway...if you get signed then you get signed by then and you'll be doing ya thing, if not then you get to be on the show...either way, ya can't go wrong...
you should try out anyway...

but werd @ Kon...if they did "rap idol" they'd have to do every other idol...they already did a "dance" show that was supposed to be modeled after American Idol...hate to sound racist but honestly the people that voTe for A.I. are generally white people, that's why all the shitty people like that skinny white boi Anthony whatever were left on the show this past season and all the good people were off madd early, all the black girls and even Constantine, got voTed off before him...

white people wouldn't know who to voTe for on no shit like that...they'd botch it all up, it'd never work unless that shit was on BET and even then, you'd have a bunch of white kids from the suburbs that think they know anything about talent in rap vTing for the person talking about cars and ice the most, therefore botching it up...something like "Rap Idol" would never be successful and have any kind of legitimiZed credibility for a "true emcee"...


rofl at you taking so much time to write ignorant posts. Then take more time to centre it bold it and make it red. Not to mention the length of absolute bullshit.

wtf @ a austrailian wont make it.

*waits for nos to destroy this ignorance*

id do it myself, but someone so closed minded is a waste fo my time.

*eats cookie*

Terumoto 11-05-05 09:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by L. Veracity
NOS...an Australian rapper would probably not get anywhere trying to sell records in the U.S...I can honestly say that's the accent I've had the most difficult time decyphering, besides Irish, when it comes to rap...these stupid kids here can't decypher people with U.K. accents and they represent the population of most rap listeners, they wouldn't be able to understand an Australian head...

and ya never know if you'll be signed by then or not...you should try out anyway...if you get signed then you get signed by then and you'll be doing ya thing, if not then you get to be on the show...either way, ya can't go wrong...
you should try out anyway...

and werd, if they did "rap idol" they'd have to do every other idol...they already did a "danc" show that was supposed to be modeled after American Idol...hate to sound racist but honestly the people that voTe for A.I. are generally white people, that's why all the shitty people like that skinny white boi Anthony whatever were left on the show this past season and all the good people were off madd early, all the black girls and even Constantine, got voTed off before him...

white people wouldn't know who to voTe for on no shit like that...they'd botch it all up, it'd never work unless that shit was on BET and even then, you'd have a bunch of white kids from the suburbs that think they know anything about talent in rap vTing for the person talking about cars and ice the most, therefore botching it up...something like "Rap Idol" would never be successful and have any kind of legitimiZed credibility for a "true emcee"...


All of what you said is already happening on a larger scale. Replace show with music industry and votes with record purchases.

But I was just wondering about why they didnt make one.. Its obvious the most mainstream-like cars/ice rapper will win, but thats what theyre looking for. For the amount of $$$ they would make, it seems like a pretty good show idea.

Paranoid 11-05-05 09:49 PM

if they had that I'd fuckin tryout fa sho.

then I could hear how much I suck hahaha

La Cosa Nostra 11-05-05 09:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by L. Veracity
NOS...an Australian rapper would probably not get anywhere trying to sell records in the U.S...I can honestly say that's the accent I've had the most difficult time decyphering, besides Irish, when it comes to rap...these stupid kids here can't decypher people with U.K. accents and they represent the population of most rap listeners, they wouldn't be able to understand an Australian head...

and ya never know if you'll be signed by then or not...you should try out anyway...if you get signed then you get signed by then and you'll be doing ya thing, if not then you get to be on the show...either way, ya can't go wrong...
you should try out anyway...

and werd, if they did "rap idol" they'd have to do every other idol...they already did a "danc" show that was supposed to be modeled after American Idol...hate to sound racist but honestly the people that voTe for A.I. are generally white people, that's why all the shitty people like that skinny white boi Anthony whatever were left on the show this past season and all the good people were off madd early, all the black girls and even Constantine, got voTed off before him...

white people wouldn't know who to voTe for on no shit like that...they'd botch it all up, it'd never work unless that shit was on BET and even then, you'd have a bunch of white kids from the suburbs that think they know anything about talent in rap vTing for the person talking about cars and ice the most, therefore botching it up...something like "Rap Idol" would never be successful and have any kind of legitimiZed credibility for a "true emcee"...

Ughhhhh... Look..
My immediate goal is to make it in australia... It really does shit the hell out of me when americans act as though everyone from other countrys only wants to make it in the states...

It's just such a fucking pathetically conceded and self centered way of thinking..

I know your gonna come back with some bullshit like "oh dont be so mean"... But being a rap artist from a different country, this is not the first time some ignorant **** has said that type of thing to me...

I dont ever live up to steriotypes either... So w/e you've heard from other australian rappers... Best believe I dont fit the mold...

And another thing.... You act like white people are so out of touch with style and shit like that......... Fuck sake, get out of your snobby ass mindframe for one second and realise that there are plenty of idiotic black people with absolutly no sense of style either...

Hell the amount of times I seen some moron on TV trying to act ghetto and 'hip' just cause of their skin color just gets fucking embarrasing...

Your ignorance gets really fucking annoying at times veracity. :banghead:

L. Veracity 11-05-05 09:54 PM

did I say an Australian won't make it?...if I did I didn't mean it "like that"

I meant it's unlikely that people will understand 'em and that'd be a reason they probably would not sell...I never said that has ANYTHING to do with their skill...I dont' know every Australian rapper...the one(s) I do know are lyrically sound, it's just really pretty difficult to understand and decypher their accents

and OneManBand, you think some FOX Executive is gonna do a "Rap Idol" on there?...how many regular ass TV shows do you see on FOX where even more than 2 main characters are black?...I watch FOX a lot and there's no shows I can think of besides "HOUSE" and this other one that comes on Friday nights that have any lead black actors...I don't honestly think they'd dedicate an entire season of a show to a genre most peg to be "black music"...unless they determine that people will watch it like craZy and they can damn near control every aspect of it so that the white suburban people aren't letting what their kids see on TV influence them to do bad things then I don't think they would...if rap in general was in a better place and off all that 50CENT "let's all be gangstas" shit then MAYBE they'd be willing to do it, but in my opinion of how I see television and percievetelevision eXecutives to be, I highly doubt it'd ever happen on a major non-cable network...

L. Veracity 11-05-05 09:58 PM

I'd never doubt that not every foreign rapper wants to make it in the U.S. but a lot do and I never said you wanted to make it here, but people know that the biggest industry for rap is in the U.S. and that's what they likely gravitate toward...it's fine and dandy by me, even GREAT you wanna make it in your home...

and I'm not being "snobby" cuz believe me, I knwo plenty more IGnorant black people that I know IGnorant white people, but I'm speaking as far as television...people try to censor albums and rock albums back in the day weren't predominantly the black people, it was white people...they're the ones that control TV channels and networks, so that's who I meant more specifically...

and F.Y.I. anyone trying profusely to be what they're not is quite annoying

Tha Q. 11-05-05 09:58 PM

yea...makin da band was like dat

La Cosa Nostra 11-05-05 09:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by L. Veracity
[b][color=red][center]did I say an Australian won't make it?...if I did I didn't mean it "like that"

I meant it's unlikely that people will understand 'em and that'd be a reason they probably would not sell...I never said that has ANYTHING to do with their skill...I dont' know every Australian rapper...the one(s) I do know are lyrically sound, it's just really pretty difficult to understand and decypher their accents

Well I have to admit that is a little more understandable than your last post.. You told me in another thread to word my stuff better, take some of your own advice from time to time.

La Cosa Nostra 11-05-05 10:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by L. Veracity
I'd never doubt that not every foreign rapper wants to make it in the U.S. but a lot do and I never said you wanted to make it here, but people know that the biggest industry for rap is in the U.S. and that's what they likely gravitate toward...it's fine and dandy by me that you wanna make it in your country...that's great...

Couldnt agree more... And if my music does ever make it to the states and sells good, then thats only a plus on-top of what I want to achieve as an artist..

My style relates a lot more to indie american rappers rather than aussies though.. Like I said, I never fit any steriotypes.. I am an innovator when it comes to the music I produce. I go against the norms..

Quote:
Originally Posted by L.Veracity
and I'm not being "snobby" cuz believe me, I knwo plenty more IGnorant black people that I know IGnorant white people, but I'm speaking as far as television...people try to censor albums and rock albums back in the day weren't predominantly the black people, it was white people...they're the ones that control TV channels and networks, so that's who I meant more specifically...

But what your missing is, that black people are still the minority in america...

You cant seriously expect the TV industry to be more full of black people than it already is cause in reality, a country with a majority of white people will always be more tailored towards white audiences...

Its just how things work... If america's majority was black people and white people still made up most of the media... THEN you'd have a sound argument...

L. Veracity 11-05-05 10:05 PM

yeah yeah, I just did it shorter then lol..I said the same thing, I never said

"all Australian rappers suck cuz I can't understand 'em" like Natural Killa and all them other idiots making threads about how much U.K. rappers suck simply because they don't understand what they're spittin' lol

Terumoto 11-05-05 10:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by L. Veracity

and OneManBand, you think some FOX Executive is gonna do a "Rap Idol" on there?...how many regular ass TV shows do you see on FOX where even more than 2 main characters are black?...I watch FOX a lot and there's no shows I can think of besides "HOUSE" and this other one that comes on Friday nights that have any lead black actors...I don't honestly think they'd dedicate an entire season of a show to a genre most peg to be "black music"...unless they determine that people will watch it like craZy and they can damn near control every aspect of it so that the white suburban people aren't letting what their kids see on TV influence them to do bad things then I don't think they would...if rap in general was in a better place and off all that 50CENT "let's all be gangstas" shit then MAYBE they'd be willing to do it, but in my opinion of how I see television and percievetelevision eXecutives to be, I highly doubt it'd ever happen on a major non-cable network...


Of course people would watch it like crazy... Just like people buy 50 cent's albums like crazy.

And there are plenty of shows with black main characters on major non-cable networks.

L. Veracity 11-05-05 10:11 PM

UPN is the main non-cable network that FUCKs with black shows...

American Idol is on FOX and there are not any black casted shows on there

and NOS, white people will be the minority in the next 5 years or so...besides that, white people are the ones in control of all the TV networks, even BET isn't owned by black people, but most black fools in my race don't even know

Tha Q. 11-05-05 10:15 PM

^^^^^^^^cops....................................

La Cosa Nostra 11-05-05 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
^^^^^^^^cops....................................

ROFL... I laughed out loud on that one...:thumbup:

L. Veracity 11-05-05 10:17 PM

LMAO @ COPS...shuddup Michael lmao

they cut back on showing black people cuz they paint us in a bad ight...last time I saw COPS it was an Asian dude, and the rest were white people hahahahaa

La Cosa Nostra 11-05-05 10:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by L. Veracity
UPN is the main non-cable network that FUCKs with black shows...

American Idol is on FOX and there are not any black casted shows on there

and NOS, white people will be the minority in the next 5 years or so...besides that, white people are the ones in control of all the TV networks, even BET isn't owned by black people, but most black fools in my race don't even know

But white people have still been the majority for so long that our high end business ties will still be around even if we are the minority...

Love it or hate it... Nobody can change that...

L. Veracity 11-05-05 10:22 PM

and I would be stupid to think anything OTHER than that NOS...

but that still proves my point...

white people controlling shit no matter what

so if they don't want something to happen, it prolly won't

La Cosa Nostra 11-05-05 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
and I would be stupid to think anything OTHER than that NOS...

but that still proves my point...

white people controlling shit no matter what

so if they don't want something to happen, it prolly won't

Well thats life for ya.....

It doesent mean white people are evil... It just means we got in first...

(First in, best dressed;))

L. Veracity 11-05-05 10:35 PM

nah white people ain't evil, I am just not fooled into believing what most of them want us to believe...and yeah I'm on this "white people this and that" kick right now, but I talk even worse about black people, don't even get me started on that shit though lmao

La Cosa Nostra 11-05-05 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
nah white people ain't evil, I am just not fooled into believing what most of them want us to believe...and yeah I'm on this "white people this and that" kick right now, but I talk even worse about black people, don't even get me started on that shit though lmao

Theres good and bad points about all races...

People just need to appreciate the good points and while being mindful of the negative, find a way to co-incide without bringing a race down because of them.

L. Veracity 11-05-05 10:50 PM

werd, I do a good job of it, jsut cuz I have certain opinions about white people in certain positions in our society doesn't mean I dislike all white people in general...I have no problem with any race cuz I don't have opinions on a race "in general" I just find racial humor and jokes to be completely hilarious :)

Phenom-in-all 11-06-05 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KOOL COL-B
makin tha band 2...? werd

thas what iwas gon say.... :shocked:

Pop Lotty 11-06-05 12:18 PM

Bernie Mac is on Fox.

L. Veracity 11-06-05 12:39 PM

true, I 4got about him...they still put him on Friday night when nobody watches TV though, lmao...watch that shit get AX'd by the end of this season cuz ain't hardly AAAAAAAAANYBODY watching that shit any more lmao

Blay'all 11-06-05 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KOOL COL-B
makin tha band 2...? werd

word...... haha

I forgot about that.

Viva 11-06-05 01:50 PM

Its great to be white! :D

Indeph 11-06-05 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Viva
Its great to be white! :D



*gets transfered to black school*
*hates it all of a sudden*

:)

Viva 11-06-05 01:55 PM

lmao, im jokin. but i got a thing for dark boys so it would be more like

*gets transferred to black school*
*eyes pop out of head*

Indeph 11-06-05 01:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva
lmao, im jokin. but i got a thing for dark boys so it would be more like

*gets transferred to black school*
*eyes pop out of head*



Lol Its good being black then.
*gets knocked out by cop for wearing ear rings*

Zone Out 11-06-05 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ysdat
rofl at you taking so much time to write ignorant posts. Then take more time to centre it bold it and make it red. Not to mention the length of absolute bullshit.

wtf @ a austrailian wont make it.

*waits for nos to destroy this ignorance*

id do it myself, but someone so closed minded is a waste fo my time.

*eats cookie*

wtf?
an australian WONT make it.
no matter how ignorant is.
Im tired of you fuckin foreigners sayin its ignorant when its the damn truth
call us "narrowminded" "dimwitted" whatever the fuck you want. the fact will still remain, if you're from the UK, or any other place where they have an accent, they WILL NOT MAKE IT.
Unless you have a Latin accent, thats difference, because Pitbull and Daddy Yankee is makin it, but the latin accent is sexy, BRITISH ACCENTS ARE NOT.
So, say what you want, like I said. THEY WILL NOT MAKE IT IN AMERICA!

Compose 11-06-05 05:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pop Lotty
Bernie Mac is on Fox.

Roflmfaooo.....


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