A question to people who dont' believe in God...
 

Firstly, let me just clarify that i'm not a christian. Heres the question..

Did the holocaust bother you in any way? Did it bother you when a lot of africans were lynched for no reason? Does it bother you when children get molested, or women get raped? If someone close to you died, would it bother you?

If you believe there is no God, and that humans are just a complex form of slime that has evolved, then you basically believe existence is pointless... And if existence is pointless, then death and suffering means nothing.

Feel free to dispute... I might reply with my standpoint later on.

thats some deep shit rite there but i think im more of a humanist -if that exists.
I believe there is good in almost everyone, and anyone that there isnt is a very lost person and has suffered in their life.

People have minds which control them if the mind is plagued so badly then they do bad things.

God is a load of bollox but i do not disrespect other people's beliefs as that is wat they are -beliefs.

But if you don't believe in God, then technically you're an atheist. There is no concept of "doing bad things" or "good in everyone" because bad and good are religious ideals. Our morals and ethics would have no bearing if we were just evolved cells...

good topic..

I believe there is a God, i always have. I just refuse to pick one religion, when all mainstream religions for the most part have the same ideals, but yet it condemns you to worship another god, regardless if you follow the ideals that most religion is built on...or not

I dont believe in god, and i dont believe we are evolved slime.

But...
As you live along side people you do care for them, its instinct. So if something happens then you feel like shit, if there was a god that wouldnt happen...and fuck all that "everything happens for a reason" shit, thats a get out clause for when something looks impossible for there to be a god.

If there was a god...i believe people have there own godly figure inside their head which they look up to for support and can strengthen them through difficult times.

My input for now.

If you dont believe in God, but you dont believe we are evolved cells, what are your thoughts on our origin?

As you live along side people you do care for them, its instinct. So if something happens then you feel like shit, if there was a god that wouldnt happen...and fuck all that "everything happens for a reason" shit, thats a get out clause for when something looks impossible for there to be a god.



you think it's just instinct? why have instinct? Why is there a difference between right and wrong? If a higher power doesn't exist, the difference between right and wrong is meaningless.

I believe we are evolved cells, in a way, but not in the sense of slime as you used.

I believe possibly another lifeform in the vast universe made the world, and i believe they are always one step ahead thats why we can never discover it.

You can work out rights and wrongs to a certain extent without spiritual beliefs.

Believing in god or not, if a friend that you grew up with gets killed, it hurts...spiritual or not.

And i would love to believe she is in a better place, a heavenly place...but i cant accept that.

When youve gone youve gone i believe.

You can work out rights and wrongs to a certain extent without spiritual beliefs.

Believing in god or not, if a friend that you grew up with gets killed, it hurts...spiritual or not.

And i would love to believe she is in a better place, a heavenly place...but i cant accept that.



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why do we have the ability to do that though? It makes no sense what so ever...we don't need emotions to survive...that can be proven by saying look at the smaller species in life who know nothing but to survive..and they do it

The mind and brain are powerful complex things, combined and used effectively they cause a high level of intellect and a sense of judgement. IMO.

I know this, your not answering my question though. What is the point of having high intellect and a sense of judgement if it doesn't effect our ability to survive? ...if we are for one reason..and thats survival..it doesn't add up...

not to mention...you can say there is no God..because a loving god wouldn't let bad shit happen

but you can also argue...our existance would be just as pointless with A god who didn't let bad shit happen, as it is without a God at all

So you mean, you look up to a figure that everyday murders innocent people, causes them lifelong pain, and thats not even going near the third world countrys,

I just cant dig it mate.

So you mean, you look up to a figure that everyday murders innocent people, causes them lifelong pain, and thats not even going near the third world countrys,

I just cant dig it mate.

i definately understand where your comin from bro, don't get me wrong. But it's not him that does it, it's us. And the difference between a God and no God, is we are able to feel remorse, compassion, love, etc...with no God, all of that is worthless, we could kill eachother all the time, fight all the time, as lions do, and it would be nothing more than a teritorial squabble.

There is a god, end of story.

peace

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now lookin on my answers i relieze im a cold hearted person in
the eyes of many im sure, but their answered honestly....
n werd at the moment i do believe there is a god....

Emotion and religion are 2 different things...that post = no sense...

i'm a slight believer because i believe in afterlife...but that's saying that people who are aethist, are emotionless...which is not the case at all

if there is an after life you will be able to see ur dead mother again and grandma. and if you do die bitch you will be going to hell where you can rot der. by the way why don't you battle me bitch and get owned cuz i feel like beating ur ass some more.

Wow...i thought i told you to not ever talk to me and vice versa... ok to the bolds

1. Mother = alive

2. Glady...but there IS a problem with that sentence...YOU'VE NEVER BEATEN ME...got a mic now then?

yea I do have a microphone now but I wanna get my text skills pretty high before I start doing audio.. I know you hate me thats why i defend myself cuz you ain't nothing mad dog but a ugly dude who thinks he can rap but u cannot spit to save your life. What exacly don't you like about me and why what did i do wrong to you?

you've been here nearly 2 years and you're STILL saying the same bullshit

besides what did i tell you over msn months ago...stick to the deal and you won't get embarrassed

I haven't been here nearlly two years cuz im not on it as constantly as you. I do have alot of potential but I got adhd which effects your conentration. My adhd used to be really bad but now it's started to get better and you shouldn't underestermate me. Are you gonna carry on thinking the same shit over and over or are you gonna respect that i can do well in time.

i'm sorry all i heard was blah blah blah

our beefs played... :gfy:

the post makes perfect sense..everyone understood it besides you

exactly.

There is a god because there is love. We have feelings because of God.

Our "heart" doesnt teach us to love, our heart does nothing but pump blood. Poeple use the heart for love as a metaphore.

God is the reason we care about people/places/things.

If there was no God, then we wouldnt be able to.

LMFAO. Dude.. like, what the fuck?

first off.... everyone has a different meaning of what right and wrong is... let's start with the bible and the ten commandments.... these are the rules to live by according to GOD and the tablets that were given to Moses.... one of those rules is "though shalt not kill" .... now.... let's say 2 people got into a fight one day and later on one of them was still pissed and ended up murdering the dude from earlier.... we could all agree that this guy killed the other dude and that it was wrong, right?...kool... now this dude goes to trial and gets the death penalty... according to the Bible only God has the authority exact vengeance but here we are about to put a man to death cuz he killed someone.... "Though shalt not kill"... shyt gets a whole lot deeper than that.... if we go by a concept of what's right and wrong.... then there had to be someone in da beginning ... the VERY BEGINNING.... to say what right and wrong is.... there had to be one person that a countless # of people had to look up to or, at least, a very influential speaker, who got people to understand and believe in the CONCEPT of good vs bad or right vs wrong... i, personally, believe there is a higher power.... whether that be God or some supreme force or nature itself is another story.... i'm still tryna figure out who i am spiritually and i can be honest enough with myself to admit it.... at the end of the day... people are gonna do what they gotta do to get by.... when the odds are stacked against you and you see no way out... and all you have left is faith in that higher power... you're going to go to it... you will exhaust every means of survival you can possibly think of... if ya don't you're already dead inside... it means that ya life had no meaning... now... i know there's gonna be someone who comes and picks apart some of the things that i've said in this post... and there will be those who agree with some of the things i posted ... but i welcome it... i'd like to see what others views are....

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i believe in the Lord and i alwase will no matter what......and to all those things stated above.....i think that you would have to be a brain dead killer to have no feelings tword those things.....

Yeah. but my point in this thread is that if you're atheist, those things shouldnt bother you in the slightest.

It Depends on what you define as 'God'.

I Don't beieve in a tall white beaded giant living in the clouds, but i do believe in a higher form of existence.

And the whole thing that its one person, please. Only Idiots could possibly believe a single entity looks out for an entire world.

al of that is obvious, and completely redundant