How the fuck is eminem not the best?
 

I mean seriously, he has the greatest lyrics EVER heard. He has underground and mainstream success. He's original, has humor, storytelling, and the best delivery/flow/ anything in the game. I've tried my BEST to figure out why people can say he's wack. Please humor me on how he's not the best. PLEASE.

Cuz hes white, and ofcourse a white person cant be better then jay-z or papoose [/sarcasm, and willsunyas logic]

Yes you're correct compose. White people cannot rap. Its the blackness of rappers that make them so luvable.

i know so many ppl that drop doper wordplay and rhyme schemes and vocab than em does

Lol PLEASE show me that rapper so I can kiss his shoes.

Me.............

Well besides Daemon whos better then shady?

No one else can step up.q

i didnt say one... i said i know so many ppl that are better lyricists... but i wnt waste time uploadin and linkin u for the reason.. ull just moan n try prove otherwise cos u ride em so hard

meh.

His way to say he hates the bullshit that comes with fame made me not give a fuck about him.

He made the most bullshit music, and causing outside hip hopers to think thats what rap is.

When really the didnt understand that eminem was simply saying " the top come with pointless pathetic bullshit".

He has power in the industry,but hasnt used it to fix the direction of rap, simply said "fuck rap im'a input into making it wack"

He is one of the best, dont get me wrong. But I care not for thee whom maketh a mockery of my passion.

^How does he mock rap? have you heard him when he was underground =/ he loved Hip Hop, after all the shit that he been through and he still continued to pursue a place in Hip Hop...and thats considered mocking it?

Oh fuck that lame ass excuse. When people say pac is the best its ok. But when I say em's the best I'm ridin his nuts. He made shit that I relate to and he's a fuckin' genius. I will give him the support he deserves wether you like it or not. Untill you prove otherwise you can suck my dick.

And ysdat he does have alot of problems. Imagine if u couldn't see your kids and your wife left you and almost killed herself over the shit. Do you think money is worth a family in shambles?

I agree with the original thread starter.Eminem is the best all-around rapper.He can do it all.

And leady...shut yo' wack ass up.Vocab means absolutely nothing.It's only the overly critical fans like you who think vocab is essential in rap.

bolded the relivent words

And people need to stop putting barriers on what hip hop is. Rock doesn't do that bullshit. Hip hop needs to have versitality and thats what sets us apart from other music. Rappers can go any direction with music they want. Eminem went his way and whats wrong with that?

compose, I have infinite... i have unreleased shit when he was 17.

Compose, I have ass like that, i have my band.

Those last too songs is him making a mockery of rap and those who listen to it by saying " i can make anything and it will sell"
Alot of wack kids dont have an understanding for rap, eminem helped when he was dropping tracks like till hell freezes over, but once he hit eminem show, he backfired his own passion and made non rap songs, and sold them as rap songs.

Ass like that, my band and numerous other song he has made recenlty, simply to express how wack it is at the top.
he put out mosh and my band at the same time. The effect he tried to get with mosh, just got reversed by making my band.

He has alot of power, he could be using it to re shape rap back into solid real raw underground style music.


he is one of the many that have wrongly commercialised rap with wack tracks.

Why doesnt he commercialize it with his original style?

Right...and he loved Hip Hop until the end of MMLP imo, and a little of eminem show

From 1995-MMLP

^fucking legendary, that can put him in the hall of fame forever...

^that goes to Fidel too...I realize em's new tracks are like that thats why I dont consider them in his legendary library :(

People seem to put a strong emphasis on songs he was just fucking around with. Ignoring all of the 8034832048320482 ill songs he made. Nas made songs like "Hate me now" talking about ice. And he made "you owe me" talking about ice and hoes. Tupac made how do you want it, I get around, and I'm gettin money. All these other rappers are fuckin up alot worse, but eminem is just KILLING HIP HOP somehow?

pac is beyond over-rated... reason bein... hes dead.. thats y ppl ride him.. if ppl wanted to respect him they shuda done it wen he was alive... not now hes dead.. i never said dont support him... he has made good music.. but he is NOT the BEST lyricist out... vocab shows intelligence... lack of intelligence shown in hip hop is part of the reason it has such a bad rep.. it says to ppl.. u need to be dumb for this genre... n its stupid... and u like 50 cent.. please dnt ever drop ur opinion EVER again NK... any 50 fan needs to be shot

The way she moves she's like a belly dancer
She's shakin that ass to the new nelly jams
I think someone's at the door, but I don't think i'ma answer
Police saying freeze...d-doing doing doing
What do you mean freeze?
Geez? I'm a human being
I have needs, I'm not done
Not till I'm finished pee-ing


I just like to pee
Pee, pee, yes I make R'n'B
I sing song that go ringy chong
Ching chong chong chong ching
Psyche, I joke, I joke, I kid, I kid
If I offend, I'm sorry please please forgive
For I am Triumph the Puppet Dog, I am a mere puppet
I can get away with anything I say and you will love it


Mary-Kate and Ashley used to be so wholesome
Now they gettin older they startin to go bum-bum
I go to the movies and sit down with my popcorn
Police saying freeze...d-doing doing doing
What do you mean freeze?
Jeez, I just got my seat
I have teekit, look I put away my zipper sheet

Free, yes, free, right back on the streets
What you mean my lawyer is with Michael
He's too busy, I'm Triumph
Britney Spears has shoulders like a man
And I can say that and you laugh
Cos there's a puppet on my hand [ha-ha-haaaaa]


Okay..
Guess who's back, back again
Shady's back, tell a friend
whaaaaaaaaa
Now everyone report to the dance floor
To the dance floor, to the dance floor
Now everyone report to the dance floor
Alright stop, pajama time



No matter who you are, you have no right to make songs liek this and make a mockery of the music I grew to love, be ambitious about and dedicate my life to.

i make rap music, and this is classed as rap music. I know why he made it, and I know he isnt tryna be serious( obviously) But rap music isnt his to wreck like this and absolutly downgrade. No matter who the fuck he is.

He is one man that brought the level up and then absolutly felt like he owned my and your music.

How can you respect someone like this? If he hadnt of made his recent shit, I would agree he is on top... but nah fuck that!

^You're not understanding me :(

FUCK his new shit, im talking about the eminem from 1995-MMLP, and some of eminem show

^that man is not legendary!?, if not...theres something wrong with you :cussing:

^Word to compose.

eminem was dope i still like pac a lil better NOT FOR LYRICS just for what he had ta say and his delivery and im NOT sayin that cuz hes dead..but for lyrics eminem is the muthafuckin dopest i heard people say papoose is better but i dont beleive that..:( but eminem isnt THAT legendary in lyrics without help...his shit isnt totally ghost written but every song on the SSLP and the MMLP is both co-written..just look in the lil booklets it says itself and who they co-written with..so its not TOTALLY em's lyrics.
but eminem still got my respect..until he did encore and d12 world and my balls..that shit was wack as fuck..but i heard some of his more recent shit yet and its how he used ta be...so he kinda gained his way back from being a sell out. but i say the eminem show was dope as hell along wit the 8 mile soundtrack. but i still say pac is better and that he's ALIVE but ya'll dont wanna believe me the clues are EVERYWHERE and i bet a milliion bucks since its been exactly 10 years before 2006 that he's gonna come out to public either the same date he was shot or the same date he died and says he's alive and starts makin some new fresh shit

Why the fuck would he wait that long? People would just be forgetting that he died, then when he'd reappeared people would be like 'oh, that's Tupac' instead of, if it did it a year or so after he died, in which people would be like 'omfg Tupac my pants are hard'.

Compose,if you were in his spot.wouldyou want people to talk about you and say...

"that compose is number one back when he first came into the spotlight"

It make's no sense.... its like saying a honda is the best car when it firt brought out the civic.

It makes no sense, judge a man by his entire career rather than picking the positive bit's and ignoring the negative.

judge a man by his entire career rather than picking the positive and ignoring the negative bits.

If I was married I wouldnt want people to say "they have the best marriage, when they first got married"

judge something by the entire spand of the situation, dont pick the positive and ignore the negative.

..........

I gotta agree with Compose. Dude is a fucking legend. Encore, D12 World, parts of Eminem Show were commerical type shit. Everybody knows that.

But, when I listen to Infinte, Slim Shady, Marshall Mathers, I still classify him a legend. Dude was/is dope as fuck.

Eminem is one of the greatest, all his punch-lines and shit make sense, and his songs are funny as fuck, I think the greatest one he put out was 'My Band' cus that shit was so catchy, tight beat and everythang.But there's still people who are on the same lvl as him, if not better, Nas, Dr.Dre, B.I.G., Tupac, but that's just my opinion.

I rest my case.

This kid is obviously new to rap, so he state's MY BAND is eminems best.

Alot of peopel new to rap are hearing this shit and judging rap by the worst songs in the fucking world.

goddamnit pac is dead let him r.i.p fucking idiots

That doesn't make your case. I'm not new to rap and I still think Eminem is a legend.

Eminem is not the fucking greatest. There is no greatest in rap.

Yeah, I never said he was the best, but he's still a legend. And lmao @ the sole idea that Tupac is the best. Dude is the most overrated rapper ever.

But, if you really don't think Eminem is a legend you should uhh.. not think that! YEAH!

i'd agree that he gets a lot of hype, but most of it is deserved...... no one can deny that he did some crazy stuff with words, while making his songs something we could relate to......... even if he did get a little too much credit, out of respect for him dying, he's still one of the greatest rappers when it comes to his particular style.......

I couldn't agree with you more.

He's probably the greatest lyricist Iv'e heard. If he continues to do his good shit, unlike the song about asses and everything, he would probably be my favorite MC.

Werd...I'm not saying hes the goat cuz theres different styles that go to different people...

but Fidel all im saying is hes a legend, all his positive attributes outshine his negative tremendously, thats why I dont touch on them more cuz he was only wack for like a year or 2, hes been dope his whole life besides those few years.

How is he the best is the better quesion but to answer yours the main reason is albums...his first 2 or 3 albums are overrated as hell you could make your case that SSLP and MMLP are classics but at the same time you can make your case they aren't but if you think about illmatic, ready to die, 36 chambers, paid in full etc. those SCREAM classic, matter of fact Immortal Technique's last album>>>any eminem album but eminem is still better. Eminem show is above average and extremely overrated most of it is average sogns with some really hot songs here and there and Encore is trash if you deny that you are a dickrider. It's all opinion but I mean if you think Eminem is the best I question your knowledge of Hip Hop as well as your race.

What the fuck?!?!!? ARe you fuckin kidding me? Question my knowledge of hip hop? I know more then you can even fuckin imagine. And don't try to catogorize me, I'm black and I can think any way I want. Sorry If I prefer humor, multis, and content over some bullshit "gime the loot gime the loot" over and over again. Fuck you. You don't know half the shit I know. Its called personal oppinion.

And another thing, eminem is like the only mainstream rapper that isnt talking about drugs and guns. And I'm probably the only person here that doesnt support drugs or guns. Most of the songs off the infinite album I relate to. Listen to its ok and then talk. I'm not all uppity to "prove my blackness". Wtf if I smoked and was a drug dealer would I be black then?

Damn you don't have to get homotional over all that and if it's personal opinion it's cool and you don't know how much I know if eminem is your favorite is cool but if your actually trying to be unbiased and all your just being stupid Ready to Die>>>>>>>>>>>eminem's whole career. Eminem is like op 5 flows but he's not getting even top 5 ever with an average record catalogue and if your idea of humor is just lose it etc. i feel ba for u


you obviously say that because other people do...


Best post in the thread.

wtf @ this entire blind thread.

I gotta go with Y's... You cant judge someone on certain aspects then give them a label.

thast like the way 2pac was judged on the bad shit he done and made to look like a fuckign menace.. when really he was helping.

A'cred.. you say he isnt rapping about uns and drugs.. WTF bro?

latest shit at the so called peak of his career.

" im a drama setter i get my barretta blah blah blah "

You cant look at what he done at the start and judge him on that.... you gotta look at the entire thing......

He desevres his respect, he done moregood than wack shit..but the wack shit he done is unreversable.