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Blay'all 11-13-05 05:59 PM

Man, fuck restricting hip-hop...
 
i may be really bold for sayin this, but i love what dudes like Nelly and Lil Wayne have done to hip-hop... i mean, its all about expression and having whatever style u want... these guys came from the bottom, can you really blame them for showing off their jewelry and shit that theyve earned... and theres nothing i love better than seein some white trash try and talk down to some black dude with teeth worth more than their whole fucking house :laugh:

Compose 11-13-05 06:03 PM

The reason they're destroying Hip Hop is because thats the ONLY SHIT thats being played 24/7, I wouldve give a fuck if they split the radio into your shit and then like Immortal Technique, Canibus, etc.

They're telling people this is what you have to like, fine if they wanna do that go ahead...but dont stop heads who talk about communities from makin money...cuz in reality Lil Wayne should not be making more money then Talib Kweli.

peace

and you should take that 'real hip hop' shit out of your sig.

Blay'all 11-13-05 06:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Compose
The reason they're destroying Hip Hop is because thats the ONLY SHIT thats being played 24/7, I wouldve give a fuck if they split the radio into your shit and then like Immortal Technique, Canibus, etc.

They're telling people this is what you have to like, fine if they wanna do that go ahead...but dont stop heads who talk about communities from makin money...cuz in reality Lil Wayne should not be making more money then Talib Kweli.

peace

and you should take that 'real hip hop' shit out of your sig.

yeah, and I agree... but thats not their fault its not like theyre choosing what the people like... but the way i think about it is the reason all u hear on the radio is club shit is because what people like to hear at the club is pretty much the same shit they wanna hear in the car, cuz its good ridin music...

Compose 11-13-05 06:07 PM

And they're contributing to it...the more people contribute the more this ice, cars, hoes shit gets bigger and bigger, and real hip hop diminishes and diminishes...

all of that flashing what you got shit was copied from Pac and Biggie, they're not bringing anything creative or new to Hip Hop.

Blay'all 11-13-05 06:09 PM

well, maybe this is the problem but most rappers now arent thinkin about what they can contribute to the game, its about gettin out of the hood and talkin about what they KNOW...

Ebircs 11-13-05 06:09 PM

true...on bolth sides....i wouldnt DL nelly but..someitmes in the club i'd rather hear that shit..wen im tryna get pussy...and the majority of ppl r morons so...deep lyrics are over their head so IT=wack to them...while intelectual ppl hear it n b like YOOOO he JUS RIPPED IT...and other ppl like "wtf u talkin about...wtf is ripped"

Indeph 11-13-05 06:10 PM

LMFAO @ wtf is ripped.

He basically said it all.

Compose 11-13-05 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BL4Y
well, maybe this is the problem but most rappers now arent thinkin about what they can contribute to the game, its about gettin out of the hood and talkin about what they KNOW...

And thats why they suck, they're not expanding their minds or anyone elses...they're doing the same bullshit cycle all the time, thats why Hip Hop isnt elevating.

Blay'all 11-13-05 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by A'Cred
wtf is ripped

your momma's pussy walls, :cool: worrd.

Blay'all 11-13-05 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Compose
And thats why they suck, they're not expanding their minds or anyone elses...they're doing the same bullshit cycle all the time, thats why Hip Hop isnt elevating.

yeah, thats what i was sayin maybe thats the problem... but go see Get Rich or Die Tryin' and tell me u can blame em :(

50 would basically be dead right now if he didnt choose to do what he's doin now... i think we'd all make that choice.
he wouldn't have sold if he wouldnt have talked about what he did.

Compose 11-13-05 06:14 PM

Then dont call it Hip Hop, cuz thats not what it is...its just another way to make money.

Blay'all 11-13-05 06:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Compose
Then dont call it Hip Hop, cuz thats not what it is...its just another way to make money.

meh, thats what im sayin tho... who has the right to restrict what "hip-hop" is? nobody, thats what its all about.

Indeph 11-13-05 06:18 PM

Rock music embraces originality. When you do that with hip hop itsn ot hip hop. If nelly and wayne had somewhat better lyrics. I'd give em thumbsup. You can have dance songs with good lyrics cant you :(

Compose 11-13-05 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cu cullian
nope jus pac did it, biggie copied pac 2

Werd...I just didnt feel like pissing off Biggie dr's =/
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Originally Posted by BL4Y
meh, thats what im sayin tho... who has the right to restrict what "hip-hop" is? nobody, thats what its all about.

The people who created it...

Blay'all 11-13-05 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Compose
The people who created it...

which is nobody on this site

Ebircs 11-13-05 06:21 PM

it is hip hop..wtf...they RAP about RELIVENT shit to THEM....thats WHO THEY ARE>.."biggi""if i worked at mcdonalds id rap about cheeseburgers"...oh no..what happen dude,,??

diff ppl are on diff shit....get a creative crackhead...he'll spit ill metas about ROCKs.."ReD BaLLS..It's cocain in a can bitch "

basicly it's umm....supply and demaind !! EXACT SHIT...ppl don't give a fuck about bein smart or witty anymore...they jus wana get fucked up and hit pussy and jam tha fuck out..so..we have "in da club/lean back/candy shop/LIl john..LOL..their are a percentage who actualy wana RIP someone or hear metas and THINK sometimes so..theirs THE NET ot mixtapes or..Mc clubs...or...THIS SITE..or...idk u get the point tho...AND I.T sold LOTA albums..he's not broke...he can't lace his whip w platnum rims but..who NEEDS that shit...i bet he LIVES WELL...

it comes down to...WHY do you give a fuck whats in the next mans headphones?..the worse they are..the better u'll be..

"the meak will inharet the earth but..the earth will be weak"..basicly FTW

[Spelling.***^^

Blay'all 11-13-05 06:24 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cho-Kahn MiWang
it is hip hop..wtf...they RAP about RELIVENT shit to THEM....thats WHO THEY ARE>.."biggi""if i worked at mcdonalds id rap about cheeseburgers"...oh no..what happen dude,,??

diff ppl are on diff shit....get a creative crackhead...he'll spit ill metas about ROCKs.."ReD BaLLS..It's cocain in a can bitch "

basicly it's umm....supply and demaind !! EXACT SHIT...ppl don't give a fuck about bein smart or witty anymore...they jus wana get fucked up and hit pussy and jam tha fuck out..so..we have "in da club/lean back/candy shop/LIl john..LOL..their are a percentage who actualy wana RIP someone or hear metas and THINK sometimes so..theirs THE NET ot mixtapes or..Mc clubs...or...THIS SITE..or...idk u get the point tho...AND I.T sold LOTA albums..he's not broke...he can't lace his whip w platnum rims but..who NEEDS that shit...i bet he LIVES WELL...

it comes down to...WHY do you give a fuck whats in the next mans headphones?..the worse they are..the better u'll be..

"the meak will inharet the earth but..the earth will be weak"..basicly FTW

[Spelling.***^^

worrd, i like the way u think

Compose 11-13-05 06:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cho-Kahn MiWang
it is hip hop..wtf...they RAP about RELIVENT shit to THEM....thats WHO THEY ARE>.."biggi""if i worked at mcdonalds id rap about cheeseburgers"...oh no..what happen dude,,??

diff ppl are on diff shit....get a creative crackhead...he'll spit ill metas about ROCKs.."ReD BaLLS..It's cocain in a can bitch "

basicly it's umm....supply and demaind !! EXACT SHIT...ppl don't give a fuck about bein smart or witty anymore...they jus wana get fucked up and hit pussy and jam tha fuck out..so..we have "in da club/lean back/candy shop/LIl john..LOL..their are a percentage who actualy wana RIP someone or hear metas and THINK sometimes so..theirs THE NET ot mixtapes or..Mc clubs...or...THIS SITE..or...idk u get the point tho...AND I.T sold LOTA albums..he's not broke...he can't lace his whip w platnum rims but..who NEEDS that shit...i bet he LIVES WELL...

it comes down to...WHY do you give a fuck whats in the next mans headphones?..the worse they are..the better u'll be..

"the meak will inharet the earth but..the earth will be weak"..basicly FTW

[Spelling.***^^


It just pisses me off that some people can write since they were 15, everyday, put their heart and soul into getting better at wordplay or internal rhyming, multies whatever and yet people who start at 20 fresh out of jail, and knows nothing about Hip Hop gets more money.

Ebircs 11-13-05 06:34 PM

i'm 22...ben writing since i was 12 !!...BUT i do it CAUSE i love it....

"i dont write to get paid..i jus put tha pen to paper n thoughts EXCAPE"

maby YOU were MENT to do this ??...so fuck $$ ?? thats how i think..i ENJOY writing/rapping so..fuck $$..i wouldnt make a club song if i was gettin paid....OK..i LIED...i'd sell out like 50 cent CD's in suberbia !! LMFAO...but still..

Compose 11-13-05 06:39 PM

Yea...I definately do it cuz of Hip Hop, I could care less about money...I just want enough money to survive, I dont wanna be rich...but if real Hip Hop cant even make me survive then wtf? thats wat will get me mad...

Ebircs 11-13-05 06:42 PM

REAL HIP HOP...CAN make u survive FOOL...OMG man...LOTA UNDERGROUND HEADS RITE??

u THINK they do it for FREE ?? fuck no...they jus hustle their shit man.,...if u wana make it get off ur lazy ass and do it...if u got what it takes u WILL suceed !!!!

me.....i'm a lazy lush...and i don't realy give a shit either way...im content..

Compose 11-13-05 06:51 PM

werd.................

Indeph 11-13-05 06:52 PM


damn now I wanna be underground.

ksr 11-13-05 06:54 PM

yea, i agree wit u blay
but since when was lil wayne included on the list of ppl who r "destroyin hiphop"???

Blay'all 11-13-05 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Xplosive
yea, i agree wit u blay
but since when was lil wayne included on the list of ppl who r "destroyin hiphop"???

alot of people consider the whole Cash Money movement responsible

Ebircs 11-13-05 07:24 PM

cash $$ SUXXXXXXXXXXX

1nE

ksr 11-13-05 07:24 PM

^^yea, thats 1 thing that i really hate
when people say a whole group's wack just cuz most of em r or their leader is
like cash money n g-unit, say wutchu want bout people like juvenile n 50 cent, but lil wayne n lloyd banks are both dope lyricists

La Cosa Nostra 11-13-05 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BL4Y
i may be really bold for sayin this, but i love what dudes like Nelly and Lil Wayne have done to hip-hop... i mean, its all about expression and having whatever style u want... these guys came from the bottom, can you really blame them for showing off their jewelry and shit that theyve earned... and theres nothing i love better than seein some white trash try and talk down to some black dude with teeth worth more than their whole fucking house :laugh:

Oh this just takes the cake for the gayest post I've seen in a long time..

For starters, get that sentence out ya sig... You wouldnt know real hip hop if it smacked you in the face...

Those cats aint about expression at all.. They run to their ghost writers and writing pools and they pick out songs they want on their album, then they go and rap them infront of un-intelligent general masses that are fooled by hype that that is good shit...

You cant fucking be serious kid...
Restricting hip hop? How about cats that actually have mass skill and are turned back by A&R's because they dont fit either 'gangsta' steriotypes, or pretty boy pop boyband style rap steriotypes..

This is the industry that rap is in over in your country right now because fucking wanks like those rappers you mentioned sell out and do whatever the fuck their lables tell them to do just so they stay in cash.. Its hurting the industry the more and more that rappers get used to this system.

And YOU....
Your a fucking dickhead... What right do YOU have to talk about hip hop? Your the same guy that yesterday went in a thread dissing white people and starting agreeing and bagging on your own race.. Your the same guy that listens to dipset and jay Z and thinks hes in touch with what real rap is meant to be..

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Compose 11-13-05 08:09 PM

^lmao...werd...

Ebircs 11-13-05 08:45 PM

<-- assumes it's not directed to him...cuz if it is........

Poetics 11-13-05 09:06 PM

jumpin in...

personaly...going back to the Pac N big thing ...i do agree pac being the last originator..and yes...BIG did bite pacs shit...but they r prime examples of how the $$$$ affects judgement and fogz perception...think..BIG and PAC were tight when both were still not mainstream and somewhat underground...when the 2 of em got richer, the more distance and resentment due to fake peeps infiltrating...& the media that sparked the east/west beef based on Pac being crossed by his own homeboys...and the ongoing rape case he was framed in...which is another story and conspiricay and thread in itself..

hip hop's foundation back in the 80's was much more than a movement... it was a way of life...a medium to express the gov't opporession, deception, day to day struggle of poverty..exposing gov't lies ......the inner-city trap ...the numb-ness to the overload of CIA smuggled in crack ...all that is not relevant today...but really it is...

when cat's realized that beef was lucrative and profitable....WHat the fuck would u do???....battle back or pack ur backpack...cat's since the bridge...KRS1..LL...Kane..., EASY...early in the game made livings off of beefs......but where did all that bring us..

so should it be about restricting hip hop??.. FUCK NO! !!!!
i dont think there should be any restrictions...

Shit Rock music has no fucking restrictions...WTF the Manson Dude is a satan worshiper .....and packs his concerts..inspires kids to shoot up schools..
but hip hop gets its rap...and always will...

it is the strongest medium in which a revoloution can be created and started to create change...mass fuckin change....so the media will always consider it ganster..and negative...it will always be media managed...cuz cats in the game today are more willing to sell there souls to personify viloence instead exposing why its really happening..

all im sayin is that cats should be more concsious..MUCH more...
i aint hatin any raper that makes $$$$$ ..but when almost every... ....or 2/3's.... of almost every LP released nowadays is bout BEEF...then whats the solution???

money is the root of all evil... money is taking over rap being an art form...and expression of todays times..record compnaies want this shit the most.....its bout bottom line...


Conscious Cat's ..: ...Talib, Mos Def, Common, Guru, Tribe, Nas,,..2 name a few.....if these cat's had real radio play...they would kill dudes like 50...Nelly,...Puff....there should have no restrictions....in urs and my reality the conscious cats get more love...yet the media will never show this....the powers that be have an ulterior motive

So - Restrictions should come from within.

Suggestion ... A RAP COALITION , Conscious rapers as one nation....new reveloution

Blay'all 11-13-05 10:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Oh this just takes the cake for the gayest post I've seen in a long time..

For starters, get that sentence out ya sig... You wouldnt know real hip hop if it smacked you in the face...

Those cats aint about expression at all.. They run to their ghost writers and writing pools and they pick out songs they want on their album, then they go and rap them infront of un-intelligent general masses that are fooled by hype that that is good shit...

You cant fucking be serious kid...
Restricting hip hop? How about cats that actually have mass skill and are turned back by A&R's because they dont fit either 'gangsta' steriotypes, or pretty boy pop boyband style rap steriotypes..

This is the industry that rap is in over in your country right now because fucking wanks like those rappers you mentioned sell out and do whatever the fuck their lables tell them to do just so they stay in cash.. Its hurting the industry the more and more that rappers get used to this system.

And YOU....
Your a fucking dickhead... What right do YOU have to talk about hip hop? Your the same guy that yesterday went in a thread dissing white people and starting agreeing and bagging on your own race.. Your the same guy that listens to dipset and jay Z and thinks hes in touch with what real rap is meant to be..

What the fuck is wrong with you?

wow, you always fucking attack people. if you had an argument you could just address the topic and not make half of what you're saying elementary "idiot" and "dickhead" insults.

i agree with most of what you were saying, and i think the situation sucks... but what i'm saying is you cant blaim these dudes for doin what they are doin, cuz like for 50 (even tho i dont feel most of his music), it was either that or death... and that kinda puts it into perspective and makes it hard to pass that kind of judgement on somebody for making that choice.

and a thread dissing white people? yeah, i dont recall that... if you're talking about the thread about Jackass and whatnot, i agree with that, alot of skaters and shit are dumbasses like that... thats not "dissing my race" :bored:


and yeah, i knew i was gonna catch alot of shit for making this thread, but its truth. and technically i couldnt give a shit about some internet personality that thinks im a dumbass.

Mentor 11-14-05 04:54 PM

what im gon do if i blow up im gon stay rich but not even bother wit hot rides or big ass houses or nuthin matter a fact i might just get a house that people normally live in and spend all my money on housin the poor and donations and obviously my studio time and shit...i would make myself my own studio though then i dont have ta worry bout studio time and then i can keep shit real and never sell out to bein too materialaized

La Cosa Nostra 11-14-05 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cu cullian
leave jay outta this lol

Jays gay.....

People who actually know what the fuck their talking about dont got respect for that cat...

Says a lot about you...


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