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Sean Gunner 11-20-05 12:02 PM

Is R&B part of Hip Hop?
 
Well?

Viva 11-20-05 12:18 PM

ooooohh thats a weird question. In my opinion it isn't. It is however an urban music as is rap but R & B isn't an element of hip hop.

so in short: no! :thumbup:

KOOL COL-B 11-20-05 12:31 PM

ehhh, i dont think so. but it makes dope hooks, werd

Sean Gunner 11-20-05 12:51 PM

?

Don't make this bout skin color, all I was asking is if you people thought R & B is part of hip hop. With so much of R&B in rap now, I am thinking that it is starting to become part of the hip hop culture.

Viva 11-20-05 12:54 PM

well like i said, in my opinion i dont think it is. Its urban music but not part of the hip hop culture.

WhoAmI 11-20-05 01:51 PM

arrrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh

i seriously hate the term urban when regarding hip hop and RnB

its almost as if they ain't got time to stop and give a shit about it so they just chuck it all into one category, don't get it twisted viva i ain't tryna get at you cos you safe to me still

but i'd say yeh RnB is now a part of hip hop as hip hop is becoming more and more versatile as time goes by, for example people like Neptunes putting rock guitars n shit in their music. Nearly any other type of music can be fused with hip hop and it'll still maintain as a hip hop tune.

Viva 11-20-05 01:52 PM

I'm saying its urban music because it is urban music, it was made to reflect streetlife in inner cities hence the name urban.

WhoAmI 11-20-05 02:12 PM

the whole question was asking whether it was A PART of hip hop....so what exactly was the second part of your post in aid of

WhoAmI 11-20-05 03:14 PM

no he wasn't the question clearly says "Is R&B part of Hip Hop"

the thread title is right in front of you so why is it so hard for you to understand the question :huh:

Zone Out 11-20-05 03:17 PM

wtf@ you dumb kids.

R and B is hip hop
it always has, always will be.
Hip Hop isnt just rap
Hip Hop is a culture/life style.
Rap is hip hop.
Break dancin is hip hop.
graphiti is hip hop.
r & b is hip hop.

thats common sense.
It ALWAYS has.

Zone Out 11-20-05 05:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by cu cullian
lmfao u dumb fuck there are 4 elements of hiphop no more no less n r&b is not 1, change DJ'ing for R&B n u got the elements of hiphop :thumbup:

wtf
where is there something written down that there is only 4 elements to hip hop?
thats dumb.
besides, you're from where the hell you're from.
and Im from the country where it was actually started.
I would think I KNOW SOMETHING about it.
but you're right, DJ'in is also apart of hip hop.
along with R&B

Zone Out 11-20-05 05:03 PM

Even the way we dress, talk, and walk is apart of hip hop.
like I said, Hip Hop is a culture.

Blay'all 11-20-05 05:03 PM

yeah, DJ'ing is where hip-hop started you dumbfucks

Zone Out 11-20-05 05:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by cu cullian
every1 apart from u it seems knows that there is 4 elements of hip-hop yes fashion slang so on is all apart of hiphop but they are not elements and neither is R&B u can find a connection wit R&B and hip-hop but R&B is not an element of hiphop dam lol dont know where u got that from

n ye since im not from america it means that i cant possibly know more than you about hip-hop i eman jus cause u born there u hav to know more :bored:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop even internet geeks know that there is 4 elements of hip-hop

who is "everyone besides me"?
and I didnt say R&B was an element of hip hop, I said it was part of hip hop.
damn, where did you get that from?
and its funny how you say "even internet geeks" know, but thats the exact place where you get all of YOUR knowledge about hip hop from.
stfu, kid.

Zone Out 11-20-05 05:46 PM

you contradicted yourself too.
you said "even internet geeks know there are 4 elements"
well, they are "internet geeks"
how the hell WOULD they know?

Zone Out 11-20-05 05:50 PM

and I read through that page you gave
and it contradicts you AGAIN!
You say its only 4 elements of hip hop
but on that page, it ays Beatboxing is the 5th element
so, clearly, there arent any specific number of elements in hip hop.

Zone Out 11-20-05 06:04 PM

It doesnt say "some"
it says "many consider beatboxing"

many is > some.

and read the part about hip hop music.
how it says r&b is apart of hip hop.

WhoAmI 11-21-05 12:24 PM

^^^efecx why do you waste energy replying to will.....he ain't too bright

Indeph 11-21-05 02:06 PM

Revvy made this thread because of a convo he had with me.

Indeph 11-21-05 02:07 PM

BTW R&B was out before hip hop so umm answer=no. And just R&B is nothing like hip hop.

WhoAmI 11-21-05 05:15 PM

^^yeh R&B was around before hip hop but it can be incorporated into hip hop therefore people would be correct in saying it can be considered a part of hip hop now

Indeph 11-21-05 05:16 PM

Well alot of rock artists colab with rap artist. So is rock part of hip hop too? And is rap part of rock?

WhoAmI 11-21-05 05:21 PM

hip hop is so versatile these days that yeah if rocks being incorporated into hip hop than it can be considered a part of it as well.....and the same principal applies to any music; once a style starts incorporating another style then the styles effectively become a part of each other

Indeph 11-21-05 05:25 PM

Oh crap :( *opens country division of hip hop*

La Cosa Nostra 11-21-05 08:24 PM

It isnt dude... RnB is a genre of pop music... Hip hop is a bohemian culture that consists of graffiti, breakdancing, beatboxing, DJing and rap...

RnB has been closly tied to rap for a long time though.. But it never will be part of hip hop....


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