I felt this needed a new thread...RED BULL and others step in...here's the problem...
 

Here's the reason it's NOT okay for you as a white man to call a black sistah an "APE".



We all know that people, regardless of race, can look ape-ish. I've seen my share of white people who resemble Neanderthals or Cro-Magnon Man. Anyway, the reason it's NOT okay for a white person to call a black sistah an APE or say she looks like one is because racist WHITE FOLK used to call black people PORCH MONKIES and APES to insult us. They were basically saying blacks were UGLY and had the resourcefulness of an early primate. Furthermore, if a white person in Power, let's say a politician, got on television and said, "I love black people, but I can't stand those APE lookin ones," do you think it would be okay? Be honest with your self. You KNOW THAT SHIT SOUNDS RACIAL and it is INAPPROPRIATE.PERIOD. If you and others aren't creative enough to describe Serena Williams' look without turning to racist assholes, then shut your fucking mouth. YOu have EVERY RIGHT to prefer white chicks. That's your right. But, do NOT put down black sistahs because you're not attracted to AFRICAN FEATURES, which MANY, MANY guys are.


P.S. I happen to love the way Serena Looks. And, I DO NOT think she looks like an APE. I've seen what Apes look like, and she DOES NOT remotely resemble one.

Also, your argument that saying SERENA looks like an APE is NOT dissing all blacks is fuckin ridiculous. That's like a racist calling a black man a NIGGER and saying, "BUT I ONLY CALLED THAT NIGGER A NIGGER". It's wrong and you need to change your way of thinking.

GROW THE FUCK UP.

Q: um...some black girls are fit?

A: yes yes...:hump:

Q: um...some white girls are fit?

A: yes yes :hump:

mad dog...I got no problem with u, but why is it people make light of shit when someone is being serious.

do that shit in another thread please....Red Bull needs no EXCUSE to continue in his ignorance. And YES, he is ignorant.

i'm trying to lighten up the atmosphere...tensity is wack IMO

i wouldn't describe an unattractive black girl as ape lookin though...that is jus plain insulting

^^Then that's all u needed to say...PERIOD.


comin in here and makin jokes about somethin that's rather serious is WACK...

Q bro i think you are well off on this one.

If i think someone looks like an ape myself whether he/she is black/white i will say so. If someone thinks that im being racist speaking my opinion then that is their problem. I am not racist at all but would quite easily tell any black person who looks like an ape that they do and they can tell me wat a big nose iv got or wat gay blonde hair iv got. Its all water off a duck's back to me.

Just because idiots in the past used to use ape as a racist insult doesnt mean other people still do.

Red Bull or anyone can say things like that as long as its not meant in a malicious way. I dont think many people on this site are actually racist if they are then they are pretty two-faced and need to fuck off.

Okay...then, is it okay for him to "ADOPT" the term "NIGGER" and use it in a "NEW WAY" other than the way the word has HISTORICALLY been used?

Dawg, you are stretchin it and you damn well know it. All I know is, it's an insulting term because of it's HISTORY. I'm not sittin around crying, I'm just educating you on the past and why SOME PEOPLE, including myself, find it INAPPROPRIATE and offensive. How much of an asshole are you to take such a stance when someone FLAT OUT tells you that word is offensive. BUt, instead of being intelligent and rational, you DEFY them and say, "IMMA BE AN ASSHOLE ANYWAY AND USE A RACIST TERM TO DESCRIBE BLACK PEOPLE"

That either makes you a bigot or an asshole. Which is it?


Stop...jus stop.

Weird how I'm racist when I posted like 5 pics of hot ass black girls in the same thread. I call one person ape like and I get fuckin' shit on. Fuck that, you guys take shit way too fuckin' serious.

all it is, is saying wat someone looks like. A lot of racism i see nowadays is just black people saying they've been treated in a racist way wen they havent and they've just got a chip on their shoulder. Altho i do accept that sometimes people just dont know wat they're saying.

There are a lot of terms that have been highly offensive for all sorts of people ie: Limeys = brits used to be called this and it was like the worst insult. Do i give a fuck if someone calls me this? NO.

Your whole argument is based on someone commenting on someones appearance. If i call a fat man a big fat podger and it is really offensive to that person i promise you lots of peeps if they were there would laugh their tits off and wouldnt think of it as prejudice. -Its just taking the piss or commenting in a less-than-nice way. If the person he said it to gets over it quick enoughthen it aint an issue

If people keep making issues of things like this then the world's attitude will never change. I cant stop you getting offended but i doubt red bull meant any serious offence, he just said wat he saw

People in the Ku Klux Klan like Michael Jordan. He's one of those "good niggers" as they'd say. My point is, just because you DON'T insult all black people doesn't make you NON-RACIST. A racist is a racist. I'm just tellin you to accept what I'm saying and RECONSIDER calling black people APES.

I didn't fuckin' call black people apes. I called ONE indvidual ape like. Find a picture of a white girl that looks like Serina. I'll call her fuckin' ape like as well. Holy fuck, get over it.

now you've twisted it, he didnt call her an ape, you said that yourself, he said she looks ape-like

It's kind of difficult for you to see past your own culture. #1...Ur from the UK so your perspective on American Racism is NOT going to be an enlightened as if you lived here. #2...I presume you're white which gives you yet another perspective. Therefore, I'mma leave it alone. Having a CHIP on ones shoulder and realizing that certain words are HISTORICALLY DEGRADING to black people are 2 entirely dfferent things. I WILL NEVER accept being called a NIGGER by a white person, EVER. I will NEVER accept being called a porch MONKEY or an APE by a white person, EVER. It's wrong and whoever uses those terms need to reconsider their way of thinking.

Wow...calling ONE black person APE-LIKE doesn't insult us ALL? So, if a white person calls just ME a nigger, then, other blacks shouldn't be concerned about it?....THat's ridiculous...THat argument of "A NIGGER HAS NO COLOR" or "SOME BLACKS ARE NIGGERS" is absurd. The term APE is racially insentive and degrading because of its HISTORY....can't you understand that. Reconsider calling blacks APES or APE-LIKE for that fact alone. Just because something is convenient to use doesn't make it right dawg...think about it.

I didn't say it in a racist manner. My personal opinion is that she's ugly as fuck and resembles an ape.



Sorry, but I don't find that attractive at all. Don't see how it insults everybody else.

I accept that and so does eveyone but noone has been called an ape, a monkey, a nigger or anything. All that has happened is someone said ape-like. He maybe never thought about wat other people were gonna think but if we did that every time we were gonna post it would be boring. No offence was meant to be made, so let it go. Your taking this too far, no one is being directly offensive or maliciously racist. It was just a comment about the appearance.

And that is very bad you thinking that i wouldnt no about racism. Shit man i live right on London where the population seems more black than white the majority of the time. Ive seen white people be very racist and say nasty things and it didnt used to bother me wen i was about 12-15 but now it bothers me very very much but only wen its meant in nasty ways. I have loads and loads of black friends and i can joke with them as they do with me but there is never any ill-wishing

Calling me a moron when I know the HISTORY of words when you don't makes you look STUPID. You can't even figure out why I and LEADY are tryna educate your bigoted ass. And HE'S EVEN WHITE AND KNOWS BETTER! No one called you a racist until you wouldn't just accept what we're saying. We're telling you that the word is rooted in racism and you should reconsider using it. It was a terrible choice of words. PERIOD. Now, make yaself look dumber by putting more DUMB SHIT in your sig.


Q = MORE EDUCATED THAN YOU.


PERIOD.

I think you have lost the plot slightly Q.

Your point is you dont want him to use that word cos it offends YOU. Tahts all you had to say.

she is hella fuckin ugly tho

My point is, HE was arguing back and forth with LEADY who originally told him the word was offensive, and LEADY IS WHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!! He refused to just say "Okay, I can see who it could offend black people". Rather, he sat there and argued with someone who is MORE EDUCATED THAN HE IS on the matter and made himself look like a raging BIGOT. My point is, stop trying to JUSTIFY using that term and reconsider it the next time. If someone is ugly, say they are UGLY. Again, just because a word is convenient to use doesn't make it right.

PERIOD.

and I disagree...I don't think she's as ugly as you and others are makin her out to be...but, that's just my opinion.

Tha Q. is racist. He's calling white people dumber then black people.

Dude, that basically how you sound.

Dude, I'm not going to argue with someone who ADMITTED they don't study. Leady knows more than you on the topic and so do I....So, go find more pictures of black women, say they resemble MONKIES and think you're right in saying it.

Grow the fuck up.

I think you need to grow up man. Honestly. If a girl is ugly, I'll say she's ugly. Black or white. Doesn't matter to me. Willams is hideous in my eyes. That makes me a racist? No, it doesn't.

Have I ever been racist once on this site in the last Year and a couple months? No. My personal opinion is that she's ugly as fuck and looks like an ape. It's not intended to be racist, but apparently there are some dumbasses on the site that like to cause beef.

hmm...cause beef?...Let's examine that...

#1...U say a black woman looks like an APE

FACT: BLACK PEOPLE USED TO BE CALLED APES IN A RACIALLY INSULTING WAY


#2...LEADY calls you out on it and says "THAT'S OFFENSIVE"


FACT: LEADY obviously knows the history of that term and others.


#3...REDBULL in his INFINITE WISDOM says "NO IT'S NOT OFFENSIVE, I"M JUST BEING HONEST"


FACT: Don't Racists HONESTLY think blacks are niggers?


#4...THA Q corroborates what LEADY SAYS


FACT: REDBULL becomes more defiant and obstinate just for the sake of being an asshole, in my opinion.


#5...HERE's WHAT SHOULD HAVE happened.


Red Bull says a black woman looks like an APE
Leady Calls him on it

RED BUll SHOULD HAVE done this..."OH NAH, I wasn't trying to be racist, I was just saying I think she's really ugly. I didn't know that word had a historically RACIST connotation. My bad"

Then, no one would be arguing at this point.

Tha Q got in this because REDBULL is runnin around tossin racially insensitive insults and refusing to even ACKNOWLEDGE that theterm might REMOTELY be offensive. And, again, JUST BECAUSE SOME BLACKS will support you RED BULL doesn't make it right either. Those are what you call UNCLE TOMS.

Don't get it twisted. Educated yaself on it. You admitted you "DON'T STUDY..." I suggest you learn WTF ur talkin about before you utter it.

THe shit is WRONG..ADMIT IT...reconsider it...and move the hell on.


NO ONE who isn't a RACIST/BIGOT/IDIOT/UNCLE TOM will agree with you that callin blacks MONKIES or APE-LIKE is PEACHY-KEY.

Uhhh...

When he called me on it, I said I wasn't being racist, I just think she's ugly. So basically you've just been proved wrong on everything you're arguing.

there you have it.

Also Q keeps saying that you called her an ape wen you only said she looks like one.

fuck sake she does, is it that hard to see?

NO...when he called you on it and said "THAT WORD IS INSULTING TO BLACKS BECAUSE OF ITS HISTORICAL ROOTS", you defied him and argued that it wasn't...WTF

He obviously has nothing to gain by causing beef. HE'S WHITE!!!!!!!!!! That means he simply knows the history of it and why it would be offensive to many blacks. A white man calling a black person ape or ape-ish is fuckin offensive. PERIOD. You did not acknowledge that what you said MIGHT HAVE been misconstrud. You just sat there and argued with someone who knew MORE ABOUT IT than you. That makes you an idiot, at best. LEADY isn't being paid by the black community to call you on your ignorance. pssf...

And, again, JUST BECAUSE SOME BLACKS will come in this thread and agree with you REDBULL doesn't make it right. = UNCLE TOMS...if you don't know what an UNCLE TOM is or the history of that term, LOOK IT UP, STUDY IT...


CASE CLOSED.

so its ok for a load of blacks to say she looks like an ape, that aint offensive is it??

BULLSHIT

uncle tom, my arse. that is the biggest load of bollox i ever heard. Q, you need your head examined.

You have an issue here. No one else, except maybe leady.

But Q, you need to get your issues sorted

How many times are you going to close the case?

If you didn't notice I was in a discussion with two black people when I said it. Both of them didn't take it racist at all because they both knew it was directed at only her. Then I explained to both you and sac licker leady that it was only directed at her. So basically, you're arguing nothing, and just wasting your life trying to beef with somebody who really doesn't give a fuck what you think.

CASE CLOSED .lol.

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hmmmm...I'm sorry...but, a broad flat nose is typical African Features...So, basically, you're calling African Features Ape-like?...Sounds insentive at best, and racist at worst...I honest don't know if RED bull is a racist. BUt, I damn well know I wouldn't appreciate hearing a black woman looks like an APE coming from a white man's mouth because of the HISTORY alone. If you can't accept that, then you're just unreasonable.


one more time...CASE CLOSED.

Ughhh she's butch and ugly.

i dont no why you chose the baboon, but the gorilla wasnt too far off. .lol

lighten up man for fuck sake, leave as it is. And dont have each others names in ya sigs

Well...fuck u dawg...cuz when she had on that black stretch outfit at the US OPEN, I had to do a quadruple take...and Imma gay man

if u ain't like that...maybe UR the homosexual

If a girl is bigger than me and can kick my ass, she isn't hot. You might like that though, and that explains why you think she's good looking.

so that's what this is about, how she'd kick your ass...Call her ape-lookin to her face and I bet she cud/wud..and, SHUD.

Probably, but I have the intellegence not to.