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L.E 12-04-05 03:28 PM

Okay I am seriously fucking tired of this...
 
To all the people who bitch at me for my suicide thread:

GET THE FUCK OVER IT.

It was a fucking year ago.

Fucking stupid people.

I am 110% against suicide now, so back the fuck off.

Daubs 12-04-05 03:29 PM

Techically 110% is impossible, therefor your a lier.

And your against it, your probably lying about that too?

L.E 12-04-05 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Daubs
Techically 110% is impossible, therefor your a lier.

And your against it, your probably lying about that too?


Example of human stupidity at its best.

:bored:

Daubs 12-04-05 03:32 PM

your suicidal like a teenagers newest idol.

Now you really can be like em ey.

Daft prick.

leady 12-04-05 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Limited Edition
Example of human stupidity at its best.

:bored:


this comin from sumbody who a) contemplated suicide and b) put a thread on an internet forum about wantin to commit suicide or whatever

L.E 12-04-05 03:38 PM

The point is it was a long fucking time ago.

So GET THE FUCK OVER IT.

J. Luth 12-04-05 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by leady
this comin from sumbody who a) contemplated suicide and b) put a thread on an internet forum about wantin to commit suicide or whatever

EXACTLY!!!!!!..............

Compose 12-04-05 03:40 PM

lol..................

leady 12-04-05 03:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited Edition
The point is it was a long fucking time ago.

So GET THE FUCK OVER IT.


how can i get over sumthing i never got "under" so to speak??? i wasnt here to witness it, so i have nothing to get over.

but the fact your talking about human stupidity but have contemplated suicide in ur life time makes u hypocritical and extremely retarded, but the fact you told people on a forum ur goin to commit suicide, that makes u beyond pathetic

L.E 12-04-05 03:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
how can i get over sumthing i never got "under" so to speak??? i wasnt here to witness it, so i have nothing to get over.

but the fact your talking about human stupidity but have contemplated suicide in ur life time makes u hypocritical and extremely retarded, but the fact you told people on a forum ur goin to commit suicide, that makes u beyond pathetic


It was a traumatical time in my life.

And yes it was retarted.

It's called a human cycle...people learn from their mistakes.

DQ 12-04-05 03:50 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
how can i get over sumthing i never got "under" so to speak??? i wasnt here to witness it, so i have nothing to get over.

but the fact your talking about human stupidity but have contemplated suicide in ur life time makes u hypocritical and extremely retarded, but the fact you told people on a forum ur goin to commit suicide, that makes u beyond pathetic


Contemplating suicide does not make you retarded...as a matter of fact, I'd be too much of a coward to even try (though I haven't thought about it) but I couldn't even try it. And posting it on a website, that's a personal choice what you do or don't want to share. Now stop bitching

leady 12-04-05 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Limited Edition
It was a traumatical time in my life.

And yes it was retarted.

It's called a human cycle...people learn from their mistakes.


and??? ive been through alot of shit, ive had countless traumatical experiences and situations during my life time, not once have i let it depress me and definately not concidered suicide over it.... if u commit suicide it just shows lack of strength within urself and proves to people u are a weak person and can easily be broken down, u say ur not like that now, but chances are if sumthing gets tough u will think the same way

L.E 12-04-05 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by leady
and??? ive been through alot of shit, ive had countless traumatical experiences and situations during my life time, not once have i let it depress me and definately not concidered suicide over it.... if u commit suicide it just shows lack of strength within urself and proves to people u are a weak person and can easily be broken down, u say ur not like that now, but chances are if sumthing gets tough u will think the same way


But the fact is...

I didn't do it.

Doesnt that show strength..?

J. Luth 12-04-05 03:54 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited Edition
But the fact is...

I didn't do it.

Doesnt that show strength..?

if you had strength you wouldn't have even contemplated it

leady 12-04-05 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Drama Queen
Contemplating suicide does not make you retarded...as a matter of fact, I'd be too much of a coward to even try (though I haven't thought about it) but I couldn't even try it. And posting it on a website, that's a personal choice what you do or don't want to share. Now stop bitching


concidering to kill urself is retarded, because ur talking about taking your own life without caring about the conciquences and effects it could possibly have on the people around you and that care about you... and posting it on a website just shows(no offence) but it shows ur a coward, and is a cry for attention rather than being a man n being strong enough to confront your problems and approach someboyd you actually know in order to help you with it, talking about killin yourself and telling an internet forum about it shows that you are a weak person, and that to me is pathetic

L.E 12-04-05 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by It's SPuL!
if you had strength you wouldn't have even contemplated it


Oh my God...

You are so fucking dumb.

Think of it as a war...

Decision making..."Do I kill myself or do I wait to see what life has to offer..?"

It obviously takes strength to win the war, and strength to make the decision.

leady 12-04-05 03:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by It's SPuL!
if you had strength you wouldn't have even contemplated it


exactly... the fact u didnt do it doesnt show strength simply cos u thought about it..... it shows one of two things

a) you was too scared to carry out what u wanted to do

b) your simply not THAT stupid to actually go ahead with it

leady 12-04-05 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Limited Edition
Oh my God...

You are so fucking dumb.

Think of it as a war...

Decision making..."Do I kill myself or do I wait to see what life has to offer..?"

It obviously takes strength to win the war, and strength to make the decision.


but u obviously didnt beleive in urself or the world u live in, otherwise u wudnt have contemplated it in the first place.

somebody who is TRUELY strong within themselves, wouldnt concider suicide, they would face their problems search for help if they need the help and fight through the hard times rather than looking for an easy way out

DQ 12-04-05 03:59 PM

Wanting to commit suicide does not mean you are a weak person. I know someone who has been through several attempts and to actually go through with it, you cannot be weak. Imagine you're sitting there with razor blade or overdose pills or whatever but you still have to take that final step. I don't think I could do it, I'm too much of a coward to try to kill myself. You have to realize the state of mind they are in at that exact point, they have the choice between to live or to die. They can end their life right there, a weak person wouldn't come that far. A weak person would just hide, run away from problems and sink even deeper. But someone who wants to commit suicide decides for himself he doesn't want to live this life anymore and that he doesn't want to run anymore but just end it all...that's not weak in my eyes...

J. Luth 12-04-05 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by leady
exactly... the fact u didnt do it doesnt show strength simply cos u thought about it..... it shows one of two things

a) you was too scared to carry out what u wanted to do

b) your simply not THAT stupid to actually go ahead with it

word.....well put


and stfu LE, if you DID have strength, you would have decided to just have faith that everything would get better, and try to be strong and continue on. You wouldn't be a pussy, and want to end your life. Not even thinking about how much trauma it would cause your parents and other familiy members to see what their pathetic family member did to themselves.

J. Luth 12-04-05 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Drama Queen
Wanting to commit suicide does not mean you are a weak person. I know someone who has been through several attempts and to actually go through with it, you cannot be weak. Imagine you're sitting there with razor blade or overdose pills or whatever but you still have to take that final step. I don't think I could do it, I'm too much of a coward to try to kill myself. You have to realize the state of mind they are in at that exact point, they have the choice between to live or to die. They can end their life right there, a weak person wouldn't come that far. A weak person would just hide, run away from problems and sink even deeper. But someone who wants to commit suicide decides for himself he doesn't want to live this life anymore and that he doesn't want to run anymore but just end it all...that's not weak in my eyes...

yea, it's not weak it's stupid. :bored:

L.E 12-04-05 04:01 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by It's SPuL!
word.....well put


and stfu LE, if you DID have strength, you would have decided to just have faith that everything would get better, and try to be strong and continue on. You wouldn't be a pussy, and want to end your life. Not even thinking about how much trauma it would cause your parents and other familiy members to see what their pathetic family member did to themselves.


Gawd DAMN IT!

I agree with you completely! Thats why I didn't do it!

Fuck sakes...

What do you people NOT understand about that..?

DQ 12-04-05 04:02 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
concidering to kill urself is retarded, because ur talking about taking your own life without caring about the conciquences and effects it could possibly have on the people around you and that care about you... and posting it on a website just shows(no offence) but it shows ur a coward, and is a cry for attention rather than being a man n being strong enough to confront your problems and approach someboyd you actually know in order to help you with it, talking about killin yourself and telling an internet forum about it shows that you are a weak person, and that to me is pathetic


And what if there is no one left that cares about you? Why still be alive then?

Posting it on forum can be compared to writing goodbye letter or telling people why you considered it and such whatever, it's just via another medium of communication...

Young_law 12-04-05 04:04 PM

lol .

L.E 12-04-05 04:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drama Queen
And what if there is no one left that cares about you? Why still be alive then?

Posting it on forum can be compared to writing goodbye letter or telling people why you considered it and such whatever, it's just via another medium of communication...


EXACTLY.

Look at that kid from Myspace from example...

Daubs 12-04-05 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Limited Edition
Oh my God...

You are so fucking dumb.

Think of it as a war...

Decision making..."Do I kill myself or do I wait to see what life has to offer..?"

It obviously takes strength to win the war, and strength to make the decision.


Thats a war?

Your fucked if you join th TA then.

L.E 12-04-05 04:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daubs
Thats a war?

Your fucked if you join th TA then.


Your are so unbelievably narrow minded.

An emotional war...it is an ACTUAL term.

Think of a war with yourself...do it or dont..?

leady 12-04-05 04:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drama Queen
Wanting to commit suicide does not mean you are a weak person. I know someone who has been through several attempts and to actually go through with it, you cannot be weak. Imagine you're sitting there with razor blade or overdose pills or whatever but you still have to take that final step. I don't think I could do it, I'm too much of a coward to try to kill myself. You have to realize the state of mind they are in at that exact point, they have the choice between to live or to die. They can end their life right there, a weak person wouldn't come that far. A weak person would just hide, run away from problems and sink even deeper. But someone who wants to commit suicide decides for himself he doesn't want to live this life anymore and that he doesn't want to run anymore but just end it all...that's not weak in my eyes...


ive had 3 people in my life commit suicide, 1 of them was extremely close to me(not goin to explain exactly how close cos that shit is jus too deep)... people get in that suicidal state of mind because things get hard, they cant cope with what life is throwing at them, they quite simply are not strong enough to fight through it and go on, so they look for the quick and easy way out of it, n the only way is death... example, the person i talked about previously took her life cos her brother was killed in a car crash, now that kid was like family to me, plus i was having family troubles aswell as bein in trouble with sum bad people, and at the time we just found out my grandad was slowly dieing, n then she commited suicide cos she cudnt live without her brother..... now thats enough shit to drive people to suicide in a split second, i could have let it drag me down, n get suicidal, instead i didnt, i stayed strong, i continued to fight through the hard times and here i am happier than ever. i never even concidered suicide, all i ever thought was, im goin to get through it.

suicidal people have been proven to be self centered because they feel takin their own life isnt going to effect anybody else around them.

the fact that when times get rough, and u want a quick way out of it instead of fighting through it, makes you weak... plain n simple

L.E 12-04-05 04:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
ive had 3 people in my life commit suicide, 1 of them was extremely close to me(not goin to explain exactly how close cos that shit is jus too deep)... people get in that suicidal state of mind because things get hard, they cant cope with what life is throwing at them, they quite simply are not strong enough to fight through it and go on, so they look for the quick and easy way out of it, n the only way is death... example, the person i talked about previously took her life cos her brother was killed in a car crash, now that kid was like family to me, plus i was having family troubles aswell as bein in trouble with sum bad people, and at the time we just found out my grandad was slowly dieing, n then she commited suicide cos she cudnt live without her brother..... now thats enough shit to drive people to suicide in a split second, i could have let it drag me down, n get suicidal, instead i didnt, i stayed strong, i continued to fight through the hard times and here i am happier than ever. i never even concidered suicide, all i ever thought was, im goin to get through it.

suicidal people have been proven to be self centered because they feel takin their own life isnt going to effect anybody else around them.

the fact that when times get rough, and u want a quick way out of it instead of fighting through it, makes you weak... plain n simple


I can understand why you think it's so stupid.

I am really sorry to hear about that man...

But think about it...I overcame it.

You should be happy about it, if you like me or not, because another person didnt die the same way as your friends did.

Daubs 12-04-05 04:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited Edition
Your are so unbelievably narrow minded.

An emotional war...it is an ACTUAL term.

Think of a war with yourself...do it or dont..?


I was blaggin....




But na I aint narrow minded like some people here.

leady 12-04-05 04:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drama Queen
And what if there is no one left that cares about you? Why still be alive then?

Posting it on forum can be compared to writing goodbye letter or telling people why you considered it and such whatever, it's just via another medium of communication...


there is ALLWAYS somebody that cares about you, wether u know it or not... you will ALLWAYS effect people negatively if u take ur own life.

posting it on a forum is stupid, nobody actually knows YOU... all they know is sum words on a screen

L.E 12-04-05 04:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daubs
I was blaggin....




But na I aint narrow minded like some people here.


Okay then...

But I think we all can agree SUICIDE IS A STUPID THING TO EVEN THINK ABOUT.

I admit that myself.

But I am long and over that.

If anything, I wanna help other people through shit like that.

I think that takes alot of strength.

DQ 12-04-05 04:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
ive had 3 people in my life commit suicide, 1 of them was extremely close to me(not goin to explain exactly how close cos that shit is jus too deep)... people get in that suicidal state of mind because things get hard, they cant cope with what life is throwing at them, they quite simply are not strong enough to fight through it and go on, so they look for the quick and easy way out of it, n the only way is death... example, the person i talked about previously took her life cos her brother was killed in a car crash, now that kid was like family to me, plus i was having family troubles aswell as bein in trouble with sum bad people, and at the time we just found out my grandad was slowly dieing, n then she commited suicide cos she cudnt live without her brother..... now thats enough shit to drive people to suicide in a split second, i could have let it drag me down, n get suicidal, instead i didnt, i stayed strong, i continued to fight through the hard times and here i am happier than ever. i never even concidered suicide, all i ever thought was, im goin to get through it.

suicidal people have been proven to be self centered because they feel takin their own life isnt going to effect anybody else around them.

the fact that when times get rough, and u want a quick way out of it instead of fighting through it, makes you weak... plain n simple


So wanting to be with a loved one is weak? Loving someone so much that you do not want to live without them is weak?

I don't feel the same way but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm not even gonna get into this anymore because...personal shit you know...

leady 12-04-05 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Limited Edition
I can understand why you think it's so stupid.

I am really sorry to hear about that man...

But think about it...I overcame it.

You should be happy about it, if you like me or not, because another person didnt die the same way as your friends did.


dont get me wrong, i am glad to hear that sumbody never actually went through with it, but even when sum1 conciders it, it makes me pissed off with them cos i flat out cant stand when people are that weak n want an easy way out of it.

and i know that sounds terrible saying things like that about ppl who commit suicide when ive lost people that way, but i know, they will know im not dis-respecting them, and they will know what they actually meant/mean to me, and i know they will also agree with what i say and will most likely regret it.

DQ 12-04-05 04:15 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
there is ALLWAYS somebody that cares about you, wether u know it or not... you will ALLWAYS effect people negatively if u take ur own life.

posting it on a forum is stupid, nobody actually knows YOU... all they know is sum words on a screen


There is NOT always someone that cares about you

Bullshit

TeamOne 12-04-05 04:17 PM

committing suicide is weak DQ.... plain and simple.... cuz it would be harder to fight thru all the shit in ur life, rather than take some pills.....

leady 12-04-05 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Drama Queen
So wanting to be with a loved one is weak? Loving someone so much that you do not want to live without them is weak?

I don't feel the same way but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm not even gonna get into this anymore because...personal shit you know...


just because a loved one is dead, does not mean they dont live on, they live on in ur memories and ur heart.... and she was with a loved one, infact she still lived her life with countless loved ones, yes it was hard for her when her brother died, and EVERYBODY tried to be there for her, but she was weak, she even told me she was weak and couldnt get through it... and what u have to remember is, ur loved one is dead, but they still live on, and do u think they will rest in peace knowing u took ur own life cos of their death???

and yes there is allways sum1 who cares about you, especially at LE's age..... cos im guessin he was/still is in school.... there will be kids in ur school that like u, sum that may even have feelings for you, teachers beleive it or not grow emotionally attatched to the kids they teach in a kinda family sense, because they play a big part in rasing the children and spend so much time with them they get to know them all extremely well... there are allways neighbours that will care about you.... and even the people that maybe didnt care about you, or maybe even bullied you(if u had anybody like that) would be effected and ud be surprised how many "bullies" go into depression and sumtimes go insane n need mental help because sum1 has committed suicide they used to bully..... it might not be their fault, but they are the ones who feel guilty.

DQ 12-04-05 04:22 PM

Who the fuck are we to judge what people do?

It's THEIR life, it's THEIR choice...

Yes it's self-centered, yes you're only thinking about yourself then (unless you see it as: i don't want to be burden for them anymore) but it's your life isn't it...they don't have to live it, they don't have to be you...so why should they have the right to judge you for what you do?

So the whole discussion about whether it is weak or stupid or not doesn't mean shit in the end

L.E 12-04-05 04:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
dont get me wrong, i am glad to hear that sumbody never actually went through with it, but even when sum1 conciders it, it makes me pissed off with them cos i flat out cant stand when people are that weak n want an easy way out of it.

and i know that sounds terrible saying things like that about ppl who commit suicide when ive lost people that way, but i know, they will know im not dis-respecting them, and they will know what they actually meant/mean to me, and i know they will also agree with what i say and will most likely regret it.


I agree with this completely.

That's why I didn't do it.

I've lossed alot of people through suicide as well...almost another person more recently.

DQ 12-04-05 04:24 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
just because a loved one is dead, does not mean they dont live on, they live on in ur memories and ur heart.... and she was with a loved one, infact she still lived her life with countless loved ones, yes it was hard for her when her brother died, and EVERYBODY tried to be there for her, but she was weak, she even told me she was weak and couldnt get through it... and what u have to remember is, ur loved one is dead, but they still live on, and do u think they will rest in peace knowing u took ur own life cos of their death???


You can't put your arms around memories can you?


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