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Tha Q. 12-12-05 06:31 PM

To all the Biggie Hater
 
the man didn't reach his peak before he died...he was gunned down less than 3 years unto his career...

he changed the game in those short 3 years and put EAST COAST RAP BACK on the map...


He's left a legacy that's INDELIBLE and that NO ONE HERE on this shitty site will EVER aspire to


So...keep hating on a DEAD MAN when you can't drop shit 1/100th as ill as he did.


FUCK the biggie haters...Point blanks...

The man's Metas = DOPE

Delivery = DOPE

FLOW = DOPE

TOTAL package


and let's not forget, biggie grew up on the freestyle/battle scene


Some people have that X-factor and some people DON'T...

Tupac also had that X-factor...the ability to move people's emotions...Proof?...THOSE TWO GIANTS were the center of a CONTINENTAL RIFT

that = INFLUENCE...

If you don't like Biggie you just don't get it...Period.


R.I.P.



sorry Gdeuce...but FUCK IKE...this kid bites Eminem's style...thinks JAY Z is better than Biggie, when even EMINEM said BIGGIE was one of his influences and we ALL KNOW JAY Z SPITS shit loads of biggie's lyrics

fuck dat man

RESPECT

.Ike. 12-12-05 06:38 PM

yes...i bite eminems style........sure dude...

and shut the fuck up.....Big is overrated as shit...always will be...and how the hell do u know he didnt reach his peak? wtf...can u read into the future and tell what would happen if someone woulda been alive?....

and why would i give a shit who eminems influences are?.......

i would say that noone has ever been as overrated as BIG.....but then again....there are some people on this site who like your sorry ass music

Tha Q. 12-12-05 06:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Invektive
yes...i bite eminems style........sure dude...

and shut the fuck up.....Big is overrated as shit...always will be...and how the hell do u know he didnt reach his peak? wtf...can u read into the future and tell what would happen if someone woulda been alive?....

and why would i give a shit who eminems influences are?.......

i would say that noone has ever been as overrated as BIG.....but then again....there are some people on this site who like your sorry ass music



yea...U Bite Em's style and some people like ur sorry ass music

and for the record...I think EMINEM is overrated...u solve the equation

.Ike. 12-12-05 06:41 PM

eminem IS overrated......


and no...i dont bite his style....but hey....i cant be mad....this is coming from someone who bites rocafellers style....

"Rocafeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter" - Nas...

Now...YOU put the equation together

Tha Q. 12-12-05 06:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Invektive
eminem IS overrated......


and no...i dont bite his style....but hey....i cant be mad....this is coming from someone who bites rocafellers style....

"Rocafeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter" - Nas...

Now...YOU put the equation together



wait...I don't get it...so now Jay Z and that clique is gay?


:huh:

.Ike. 12-12-05 06:45 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
wait...I don't get it...so now Jay Z and that clique is gay?


:huh:



your a fucking retard

Compose 12-12-05 06:45 PM

Im in NY, and I say hes overated, he stole Pacs style, and theres a lot of emcees TODAY that beat him, im not even gonna get into it cuz you wouldnt change your mind even if I proved you wrong, however...he was good, FOR HIS TIME...he is NOT fuckin with the new generation of underground emcees, he just isnt, that you have to realize, he is not the goat, he may be a goat to you for the 90s, but you cant possibly say he is the goat for the new generation too, and to say somebody on this site cant surpass him is stupid, you dont know that, and dont have the right to say that, why discourage people to be better then the people they learned from?

Tha Q. 12-12-05 06:45 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Invektive
your a fucking retard



wud that be a GAY retard or just ur average run-of-the-mill retard?

Ysdat 12-12-05 06:47 PM

wtf!!

let him rest for fuck sakes.

hes dead1 capech, kaput. scienara. vamoosh. gone.

*makes thread about "to all tupac haters"* :bored:

Tha Q. 12-12-05 06:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by cu cullian
aarrgghh lol i spent time typin out my koo reply n u jus blanked it lol



why quote how many albums jay has out?...Jay is ALSO STILL ALIVE DAWG...dats the point


Jay Z even admits that Biggie changed rap and was ahead of his time...Of course other rappers have surpassed a DEAD BIGGIE...For the time, Biggie was DOPE...NOW...Biggie is DOPE...point is, you can't say "Jay Z circa 1996 was better than biggie 1996...Ain't happenin'


If Biggie were still alive, who knows how ill he'd continue to be...I can only imagine


R.I.P

La Cosa Nostra 12-12-05 06:57 PM

Wow.. Theres some really moronic opinions being given in this thread..

Biggie was one of the greats... While Tupac was running shit biggie was like his right hand man there for a while... Hed do shows and let big bust out small sets right in the middle just to help him on the come up... Biggie was one of the cats that was big while it was all happening..

Jay Z is a leech that got famous AFTER everyone else who was running shit got killed, died or fell off...
And yes he bites lines from all over the place.... Not just biggie....

I think cats are even saying eminem is over-rated.... Which he isnt... Back in the day he got respect, and had some of the sickest raps ever written to show for it.. Now a days he doesent get as much respect from the rap community cause hes started to fall off..

At no point is he over-rated though...

Cats need to check their dumb opinions...

Tha Q. 12-12-05 06:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by cu cullian
u cant really say he changed the game cause he bit pacs whole style but ok anyway lets say he did n lets say he was ahead of his time THAT DOES NOT MAKE U THE KINGOF NEW YORK WE ARE NOT TALKIN BOUT TIMES OR ERAS OR REPUTATIONS OR WATEVA WE ARE TAKLKIN BOUT WHO IS THE GREATES RAPPER N IT SURE AS HELL AINT BIG



If Biggie bit Pacs style, which he didn't, he put East Coast on the map with it... er'body knows Pac grew jealous of Big...dat's all that was




Biggie was dope...period...anyone who says he's overrated is wrong...I'd say PLUMB DUMB...but that'd be wrong

Indeph 12-12-05 06:57 PM

Hey! Biggie is overated! Yes!

La Cosa Nostra 12-12-05 06:58 PM

And biggie did NOT bite pac's style...

Dont be a fucking shit for brains and make dumb comments like that because your in the heat of an argument....

Tha Q. 12-12-05 06:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Wow.. Theres some really moronic opinions being given in this thread..

Biggie was one of the greats... While Tupac was running shit biggie was like his right hand man there for a while... Hed do shows and let big bust out small sets right in the middle just to help him on the come up... Biggie was one of the cats that was big while it was all happening..

Jay Z is a leech that got famous AFTER everyone else who was running shit got killed, died or fell off...
And yes he bites lines from all over the place.... Not just biggie....

I think cats are even saying eminem is over-rated.... Which he isnt... Back in the day he got respect, and had some of the sickest raps ever written to show for it.. Now a days he doesent get as much respect from the rap community cause hes started to fall off..

At no point is he over-rated though...

Cats need to check their dumb opinions...



CO SIGN




on the dotted mothafuckin line

La Cosa Nostra 12-12-05 07:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
If Biggie bit Pacs style, which he didn't, he put East Coast on the map with it... er'body knows Pac grew jealous of Big...dat's all that was




Biggie was dope...period...anyone who says he's overrated is wrong...I'd say PLUMB DUMB...but that'd be wrong

And pac did not grow jeolous of big..

Fuck what is the problem with cats in this thread....

Pac supposidly fucked biggies girlfriend and thats what started the beef..

Man wtf do you mean he got jeolous... Pac was always bigger than biggie in the rap game right up untill he got put in jail and thats when biggie and puffy came up to that level.....WHILE PAC WAS GONE....Ironic...isnt it

Compose 12-12-05 07:00 PM

=/ seemed to skip over mine :bored:

.Ike. 12-12-05 07:01 PM

why the fuck would pac be jealous of BIG?....

cause BIG ate better than he did?

Zone Out 12-12-05 07:03 PM

Jay-z > biggie > Pac

but we have someone new on the horizon to replace jay
his name is Mr. Joseph Budden

Zone Out 12-12-05 07:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by cu cullian
DUDE FOR REAL WATEVER I DONT CARE CAUSE U KEEP DANCIN AROUND THE MAIN POINT FUCK REPPUTAIONS FUCK WAT THEY DID FOR THE GAME FUCK ALL THAT SHIT JSU BRING IT DOWN TO SKILL BIG WUD NOT BE THE BEST

LOOK AT IT THIS WAY CAUSE TE MEDIA SIDE OF IT IS BLOCKIN YOUR VIEWS I TINHK

TAKE BIGGIE PAC NAS JAY-Z AND IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE ALL EMCEES FROM NEW YORK

U PUT THEM ALL IN A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE ALL NEVER BEEN HEARD OF BEFORE N JUS PLAYED EACH ARTISTS BEST ALBUM I CAN GUARENTEE A MAJOR MAJORITY WUD NOT PICK BIGGIE AS THE BEST EMCEE

they sure as hell wouldnt pick immortal technique either
lmfao @ you puttin him in there

La Cosa Nostra 12-12-05 07:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Will S.Unyu
Jay-z > biggie > Pac

but we have someone new on the horizon to replace jay
his name is Mr. Joseph Budden

I repeat..

Jay Z is a leech that only got famous after all the real leaders of the rap industry either got shot, died or fell off...

And joe budden aint all that either...

I cringe at your taste in music...

Tha Q. 12-12-05 07:08 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
And pac did not grow jeolous of big..

Fuck what is the problem with cats in this thread....

Pac supposidly fucked biggies girlfriend and thats what started the beef..

Man wtf do you mean he got jeolous... Pac was always bigger than biggie in the rap game right up untill he got put in jail and thats when biggie and puffy came up to that level.....WHILE PAC WAS GONE....Ironic...isnt it



Biggie was drawing more attention than PAC as 95 rolled around

dats why Pac was in Jail talkin bout how Biggie had him SHOT

come on dawg...that's borderline Paranoia

.Ike. 12-12-05 07:09 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Biggie was drawing more attention than PAC as 95 rolled around

dats why Pac was in Jail talkin bout how Biggie had him SHOT

come on dawg...that's borderline Paranoia



how the hell do u know if u didnt even start listening to him till 99?

hot 12-12-05 07:10 PM

pac and big flourished in a time where people cared about the lyrical content
in 2005 these bubbleheads listen to 50 cent now
so for jayz to be commercially successful and STILL be regarded as a great lyricist is saying something

La Cosa Nostra 12-12-05 07:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Biggie was drawing more attention than PAC as 95 rolled around

dats why Pac was in Jail talkin bout how Biggie had him SHOT

come on dawg...that's borderline Paranoia

So your in a studio with some people (big and puffy)..

You walk out to the elevator.........And get shot up by someone that seems to be affiliated with biggie and puff daddy..

Now... Who on earth would be a possible suspect......Couldnt be........biggie could it.........

Then funnily enough... Your in jail, and their our there capitolising on your lack of pressance and getting big above their station... You have to understand how this shit really goes down..

It aint jeolousy at all.... Its more of a wtf type expression...

Zone Out 12-12-05 07:12 PM

Biggie is better than tupac
no oen bit no one's style
he's just better
Jay-s isnt a "leech" how the hell can he control when he blows up?
aint like he pressed a button and all of a sudden it was like "I am now the man"
thats dumb
and Jay-z isnt a biter.
If he was, people would be sueing the shit out of him
THINK about it

Tha Q. 12-12-05 07:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Invektive
how the hell do u know if u didnt even start listening to him till 99?



u can't be serious?

It's called HIStory dawg...U study it...U learn it...I've heard the accounts of what happened from BIG and PAC's on mouths...Read and saw MANY accounts from different perspectives on that subject


And, let me clarify..I KNEW WHO BIGGIE WAS in 1995-1996...I just didn't get into his music until 1999

TeamOne 12-12-05 07:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
wud that be a GAY retard or just ur average run-of-the-mill retard?


i believe it was a FUCKING retard to be accurate........... get it straight.... no pun intended

La Cosa Nostra 12-12-05 07:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Will S.Unyu
Biggie is better than tupac

Most naieve, un-educated comment in this entire thread...

.Ike. 12-12-05 07:15 PM

yes it was.....Fucking retard........

but we could go with fucking gay retard if u want

Ebircs 12-12-05 07:16 PM

battle or STFU !!!

Tha Q. 12-12-05 07:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
So your in a studio with some people (big and puffy)..

You walk out to the elevator.........And get shot up by someone that seems to be affiliated with biggie and puff daddy..

Now... Who on earth would be a possible suspect......Couldnt be........biggie could it.........

Then funnily enough... Your in jail, and their our there capitolising on your lack of pressance and getting big above their station... You have to understand how this shit really goes down..

It aint jeolousy at all.... Its more of a wtf type expression...




Pac and Big bein in that studio together was a coincidence...Think about it...Science tells us that we have to accept the most logical explanation...What's more logical, that Biggie tried to get Pac (his then-friend) killed, or that someone just robbed Tupac and shot him?

Biggie wasn't dumb...He knew what he wanted to accomplish in the game...If you ever read the story by Puff in "XXL" about the making of "Life after death" then you know Puff discouraged Biggie from even DISSIN PAC, let alone tryna KILL HIM...

think about it... BIG didn't drop a blatant diss track to Pac but tried to have him killed? Doesn't add up...


Look at how people get jealous even on a damn web site...u know...ur shit gets more feed or better feed and they start talkin shit about u!!!!!!!

Think about on a grander scale...that's millions of dollars ur talkin...man...it's EASY TO BECOME JEALOUS fo someone else's success...

I don't see why you think that' so impossible.

Tha Q. 12-12-05 07:17 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by FuxJustAWord
i believe it was a FUCKING retard to be accurate........... get it straight.... no pun intended



that coming from someone who couldn't figure out how I would know what happened in 1995 if I wasn't there....


DUH

Nynth Degree 12-12-05 07:17 PM

Martyrship aside, Pac and Big were not the greatest. Hell, Pac is top 10 at best. Big, however, was noticeably better. Most people nowadays are just wack as hell and think it's all about lyrics and who makes a catchy song about their mother.

And no, this was not my full opinion. This was simply an overview, just in case someone wants to contradict a standpoint that hasn't been fully stated yet.


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