Tookie - Death or Not?
 

I know Tha Q already made a thread about how he's going to be executed, but his question and point for making it was questioning it was whether or not L.A. will riot. Mine is different.

I want to know if you think he deserves to die. It doesn't really matter, as he is going to be executed tomorrow, but there has been many opinions on his death and whether or not he is a changed man.

Personally, I'm saying fuck Tookie. He killed a whole family in robbery. He started one of the most murderous gangs in history. EVERYBODY says they're changed when they're in jail. What else are you going to do? Be like "Oh, fuck you. KILL EVERYBODY!" There may be a few people who do that, but most people will say that they're changed. I think Tookie's a fucking punk and he deserves to die. I know that whole "eye for an eye" shit and why it doesn't work, and I know that a lot of people think he'd be more use alive then dead, but I don't really give a shit. I don't buy for a second that he has changed. I think that's between him and God, or whatever. I could really care less about him. If somebody shot my mom, dad, brother, and sister, you can bet your ass I would want to see them dead, and I'm willing to bet anybody here would too. He can claim innocence, whatever. I don't give a fuck.

I'm not going to keep going with my side, so as to not make this first post to long, but overall:

Fuck Tookie.

i say kill that fucker...

cause if it was my fam he killed....id wanna watch that shit and laugh in his face while he was getting injected....

over kill much?

Does he deserve it? Definately.

Is it wise to kill him? No

Wise? Everything you were saying in the other thread is just speculation. You think shit will happen. You think he'll become a martyr. All speculation.

Now, on the other hand, he killed four innocent people and started one of the worst gangs in the world, where hundreds of deaths have come to result because of it.

Kill the motherfucker.

Speculation with a 99% chance of happening.

Is Pac a hero? Yes. A legend? For sure. Look at all the legacies in the world, left AFTER the starter died. I'm tellin ya man, the Crips will just grow in power and will become that much more violent.

What you guys aren't realizing and that the news is not telling you is that THERE IS NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT HE COMMITTED A SINGLE ONE OF THE MURDERS HE IS IMPRISONED FOR. As a matter of fact, there's more evidence against it than there is supporting it. That's why he gets the support he does, but of course...why would the news ever tell you that?

As far as if he deserves to die or not, that depends. What does killing an individual who has turned against and reveted hundreds if not thousands of people from a life of crime accomplish? If you answer is "now that I think about it..only bad things" or "nothing" then the the answer is no, don't kill him.


He will never get a pardon. Why? because when people want to trash Ahhnald, they're gonna say" Arnold Schwartzenneger actually gave a governotorial pardon to the co-founder of one of the larges gangs in the world".

News flash: politics are still about just that. Politics.

^^WOW...Bold certainly does validate what you're saying...

pssf...Arnold S. is right...we know that everyone on death row is innocent...

sure...uh huh



the man is guilty...period.


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ok im with rev...... he deserves to die.......... but i dunno if it would be the smartest thing......

but whats with all the anarchists........ all of u are askin like the cofounder of the crips is a really nice guy or sumthin, and some people were sayin in these threads that they should stick it to the government

This dude started the gang that triggered the movement of gangs all around the world and killed so many fuckin innocant people. He deserves to die RIGHT NOW. But he needs to put an end to the horrible shit he started and die trying. If dude dies we just gonna have to kill everyone wearing a blue or red shirt.

i dont think it matters.......he gone die....weither he's injected or rotts in his cell.....and yes i do think they will riot....shits deep man

If he were still the person that he was when he started the crips, I'd be all for it. He's spoken to countless gang members and reverted them. Dude's one of the founders of the crips, so imagine the power of his message when he says "take it from me man, gangs are a bad idea. heres an alternative". He writes childrens book, and is otherwise a would-be model citizen and certianly a model inmate. He's an icon to a lot of people in gangs because he's A: a founding father, which WOULD make him a 5 or 6 tomes over OG, so when he tells you to do something , you HAVE to do it. HE's denounced gang life and encourages others to do the same.


Q, I'll start having conversation with you whne you actually know wht you're tlaking about. There's 4 points of evidence that show "tookie" is NOT involved with any of the murders he is imprisoned for. Points of evidence that she he DID do it? Zero.

Ya, Mimesis left out where I said that he is doing good for the world. This man deserves to die, but what he is doing is good. Let him continue his message.

bein a cofounder.... and admitting it already puts him under conspriracy to commit mass murder, and conspiracy to commit other mass criminal acts......... cuz really name wat the crips do besides break the law........

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Do the robot????

I bet all the Blood members are excited for this.

Everyone dies eventually anyways, you dummys, who cares if it's now by a needle, or later by natural causes

lol...................


i hope they kill him

idk if he should die but he should NEVER be set free id be preaching soem b.s. to save my ass too

That puts him under exactly nada. The gangs you see today aren't the gangs that they were in the 70's and 80's, and even most of the 90's. It's the difference between teaching a dog to protect and stand up for it self, but you go absent and that dog grows up in a cold world that's getting colder ever day, so eventually teaches it self to kill.

It's not your fault, but most of the kids on this board have absolteuly no idea where gangs came from, how thy get started, and most importantly, why. Gangs don't start up just ot break the law - think of how organized a gang is. Gangs start up as a bunch of people saying "okay, we need to protect our selves and out territory from outsiders coming in and taking what ever they want." and the start off with bare hands and maybe some knives that they agree is ONLY for self defense. Of course, after you beat up someone from another gang who tried to impede on your shit, they're gonna get reinforcements. Now you gotta get reinforcements. Then guns get introduced, which are expensive, so to fuel the war, you sell drugs, steal, rob, etc. Now 20 years later, everyone forgot what sparked off the feud, you're up to your ass in beef, and you HAVE to stay in the gang to keep any kind of protectin from outside forces, or leave the area completely, which is why gang members say "I can't get out even if I wanted to". Their tatts are lifelong. Opposing gang sees em and you're still a target, in OR out.

well....when the crips were originally created, they weren't doing bad things, they were helping their community

also, my guess is that he is the first Nobel prize nominee ever sentenced to death by his/her own government

He dead yet?

Yes. @ 12:35 Am

106 and Park gonna be all sappy today and shit...

they shouldve kept him alive
dat nigga didnt need death

but crips gone start a fuckin
and Snoop gone be da leader

I know there's no proof he ever killed those four people. But, he started one of the worst gangs in the country. NUMEROUS fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, etc. have had to deal with more bullshit then they ever should have had too because of this asshole.

Fuck him.

I understand it's all politics.. fine. I could give a shit less. To me, he deserves to die and he doesn't deserve to have anybody feel bad for his sorry ass either. That's my opinion. Whatever.

I don't give a fuck. The crips wouldn't even be around for him to try and get people to leave if he hadn't started it. The crips still are around, which tells me he's touched more people negativily (whether they know it or not) then positive shit. I'm still saying fuck him.

For me it's not just about the four alleged murders. It's about the HUNDREDS of people who died for his stupid ass gang. The THOUSANDS of people who had to suffer for his fucking bullshit.

If he really "changed" he can bring that up with "God" or whatever the fuck, I could give a shit less.

That's bullshit. Like it or not, they sentenced him to the death penalty. You can complain about the judicial system in the United States (because yes, we all know it does have some problems, still better then most of the world, but there are problems), but he was sentenced to death.

If a child molester claims he's changed and that he can talk to other inmates and lead them away from crime, when he gets out he's still going to have to file a paper to let everybody in the neighborhood know that at one time he molested a kid.

That's how the shit works in this country. So, fuck his message. I can read his book then take a 6 drive to California and see all the shit he's done. See all the lives he's fucked up. Fuck him.

Because he's claimed to be a "changed man," so now people want him to live his life in prison and continue to spread his "message" or some shit.

I'm still saying fuck him, though.

Uhmm he already died =/

I know. 12:35 AM.

*jumps E style member*^^^

the council motherfucka.. *spits on you and backs away*

They should have kept him alive and just kepy him in jail. RIP Tookie

I hope they didnt think the crips were gonna start dien off due to this... this'll prolly make them become more rough and pissed off........

i know hes dead already and i know that he killed lots of people too, but he wrott a book bout non violence and helped alot of depressed teenagers to stand up and take there life back again, some of them was about to suicide until they took a look at the book, he killed lifes, but saved some too, so in a way he deserves to die, but in another way he dosint, thats my opinion

thank you