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KOOL COL-B 12-13-05 03:43 AM

R.I.P. Tookie :( werd
 
he's dead now. they just sed on CNN. R.I.P. Tookie

this iz fucking bullshit. i dont care if he killed a million people, he wuz koo

*po's likka on tha curb* :(

werd

Vex 12-13-05 03:47 AM

dat guy deserved to die man..

KOOL COL-B 12-13-05 03:49 AM

y? i dont even mind that he killed people. but fo tha people who dont like hearin bout people dyin n shit, they shouldnt want him ded, cuz he couldve saved lifes. fuck wut he did, gotta think bout wut he couldve dun in tha future, werd

Vex 12-13-05 03:50 AM

oh, so if he killed your mom, your dad, brothers and sisters, you'd want him to be kickin' it still?

KOOL COL-B 12-13-05 03:53 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vex
oh, so if he killed your mom, your dad, brothers and sisters, you'd want him to be kickin' it still?


y do people always say that?? he can kill who he wants, az long az its not my frends or family. if it wuz my family or w/e then yeah id want him ded. but he neva touched none of my family. so i dont give a fuck who he killed b4, werd

Vex 12-13-05 03:54 AM

so basically if you don't care if others die...

technically you're on tookie's dick?

KOOL COL-B 12-13-05 03:56 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vex
so basically if you don't care if others die...

technically you're on tookie's dick?


nope. just frum wut i seen of him n shit he seemed kool, n kool people shouldnt die, werd

Vex 12-13-05 03:58 AM

cool people shouldn't kill other people who could of...like you said, helped others in the future, been even cooler,write good music, and have loving families..

he deserves to die

KOOL COL-B 12-13-05 04:01 AM

now im confused. anywho, im jettin 2 bed. ttyl witcha alias ass, werd

Vex 12-13-05 04:02 AM

whats an alias ass? is that some kind of insult?

Blay'all 12-13-05 04:06 AM

damn, for real? :(

R.I.P for real...

Blay'all 12-13-05 04:10 AM

damn, i just almost cried for real cuz i'm watchin CNN and they were talkin about what he was doin when they were about to inject him and injecting him n shit :(

Mad Dog 12-13-05 05:20 AM

boo fucking hoo

Buck.Marley 12-13-05 06:42 AM

Awwww...

Y'all shouldnt be so damn disrespectful :shoot:

Blay'all 12-13-05 06:57 AM

^they dont know how to act, they're from England n shit :shoot:

La Cosa Nostra 12-13-05 07:46 AM

Haters shut the fuck up..

Stop being bitches wingeing about the people he killed 30 years ago and ask yourself do two wrongs make a right?

This was a rehabilitated old man that has paid his dues and saught to better a large portion of his society. More than you will probably ever achieve in your pityful existances.. And you have the nerve to say he deserved to die.

Mad Dog 12-13-05 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Haters shut the fuck up..

Stop being bitches wingeing about the people he killed 30 years ago and ask yourself do two wrongs make a right?

This was a rehabilitated old man that has paid his dues and saught to better a large portion of his society. More than you will probably ever achieve in your pityful existances.. And you have the nerve to say he deserved to die.


he killed 4 people...so what he reformed himself...that's a good thing...but the fact is he murdered people...

shit when you've been given a "sell by date" for the shit you'd done...you'd reform yourself too...

he accepted what he did and bettered himself from the experiences he's witnessed...but this debate is like a rapist about to get castrated and then starting his own campaigns against rape...

or a convicted paedophile starting his own rally's against child abuse...

but you wouldn't give them a 2nd look...

it's coz Tookie WAS gangsta that you people wanted a different outcome...

but i do believe though in his defence...that if he gets death penalty for 4 deaths, people who killed more and are only serving life sentences should get the same as what Tookie did...it's only fair

13th. 12-13-05 09:20 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
he killed 4 people...so what he reformed himself...that's a good thing...but the fact is he murdered people...

shit when you've been given a "sell by date" for the shit you'd done...you'd reform yourself too...

he accepted what he did and bettered himself from the experiences he's witnessed...but this debate is like a rapist about to get castrated and then starting his own campaigns against rape...

or a convicted paedophile starting his own rally's against child abuse...

but you wouldn't give them a 2nd look...

it's coz Tookie WAS gangsta that you people wanted a different outcome...

but i do believe though in his defence...that if he gets death penalty for 4 deaths, people who killed more and are only serving life sentences should get the same as what Tookie did...it's only fair

thats sooo fucking true tho!

Blay'all 12-13-05 09:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
he killed 4 people...so what he reformed himself...that's a good thing...but the fact is he murdered people...

shit when you've been given a "sell by date" for the shit you'd done...you'd reform yourself too...

he accepted what he did and bettered himself from the experiences he's witnessed...but this debate is like a rapist about to get castrated and then starting his own campaigns against rape...

or a convicted paedophile starting his own rally's against child abuse...

but you wouldn't give them a 2nd look...

it's coz Tookie WAS gangsta that you people wanted a different outcome...

but i do believe though in his defence...that if he gets death penalty for 4 deaths, people who killed more and are only serving life sentences should get the same as what Tookie did...it's only fair

There's all kind of debate still going on about whether he really did commit those murders or not though, its a well known fact that he created the Crips, but that's not what he was on trial for and we can't just assume that means he's guilty... people (educated people on this topic) think that the cops set him up for those murders through the gang so they could catch the leader of the Crips... he was still pleading innocent on the day that he died... AND, the trial he was given was automatically thrown by an all-white, un-fair jury... there are issues of racism getting involved because out of 100 jury members involved in the case there were 3 or 4, and all of those got released by the judge....

Past Tense 12-13-05 09:27 AM

Rip Took

.......

Mad Dog 12-13-05 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Joey Carolina
There's all kind of debate still going on about whether he really did commit those murders or not though, its a well known fact that he created the Crips, but that's not what he was on trial for and we can't just assume that means he's guilty... people (educated people on this topic) think that the cops set him up for those murders through the gang so they could catch the leader of the Crips... he was still pleading innocent on the day that he died... AND, the trial he was given was automatically thrown by an all-white, un-fair jury... there are issues of racism getting involved because out of 100 jury members involved in the case there were 3 or 4, and all of those got released by the judge....


look...we can go into detail about conspiracy theories, racism on the jury and what not...but i'm speaking from the view on the look he was a convicted killer...

people make up conspiracies all the time...JFK was killed by 2 people killing shot was grassy knolls

Elvis is alive...2Pacs alive...

Aliens crashed into Earth in Roswell...

fact is it's innocent until proven guilty...when he co-formed the crips...his people killed people...Hitler never killed anyone...but his people were commanded by him...he was the one pushing the buttons...jus like Osama....jus like Saddam...jus like Tookie...

Blay'all 12-13-05 09:42 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
look...we can go into detail about conspiracy theories, racism on the jury and what not...but i'm speaking from the view on the look he was a convicted killer...

people make up conspiracies all the time...JFK was killed by 2 people killing shot was grassy knolls

Elvis is alive...2Pacs alive...

Aliens crashed into Earth in Roswell...

fact is it's innocent until proven guilty...when he co-formed the crips...his people killed people...Hitler never killed anyone...but his people were commanded by him...he was the one pushing the buttons...jus like Osama....jus like Saddam...jus like Tookie...

but the thing is, thats what the debate is really, whether or not he was guilty... when he died, everybody in the execution room raised their hands and said "The State of California has murdered an innocent man."

and some law professional on the case, not his lawyer, stated that proof will show that Governor Schwartzenegar is a cold-blooded murderer, not Tookie Williams

Mad Dog 12-13-05 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Joey Carolina
but the thing is, thats what the debate is really, whether or not he was guilty... when he died, everybody in the execution room raised their hands and said "The State of California has murdered an innocent man."

and some law professional on the case, not his lawyer, stated that proof will show that Governor Schwartzenegar is a cold-blooded murderer, not Tookie Williams


1st it's not Schwarzenegger that convicts killers...that's judges...and jurours...besides...Tookie's lucky enough to see 25 years on death row...he's had countless court battles...he really is lucky they let it span out this long...he was put on death row long before Arnold was Governor...

2nd...i can see what you say honestly i can...but a jury's job is to look at the evidence before them and rule out anything that is considered a liability i.e no proof...there's no concrete proof of a cover up...only speculation...Tookie pleaded innocent...how many proven killers plead innocent...a lot...he's no different...i didn't know that a jury nowadays had to consist of 50% one race & 50% another..if it does then ok...but this was the 70's-80's people had woken up more to racism than in the MLK days...(don't take that last comment to heart it's jus what i feel)

you can't convict someone on he says she says...if people screamed conspiracy...and had the evidence to back it up...we might not even be talking about this...but FACT is...there's nothing concrete...so all we can do is move on from this...what's done is done...

Buck.Marley 12-13-05 09:58 AM

Whoever said that shit about Arnie bein a killer stole that little ''theory'' from a song....can't remember who the artist is but the line goes ''schwarzenegger killin in the movies'' or some shit


yeaaaah

WORD.

Mad Dog 12-13-05 10:02 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buck.Marley
Whoever said that shit about Arnie bein a killer stole that little ''theory'' from a song....can't remember who the artist is but the line goes ''schwarzenegger killin in the movies'' or some shit


yeaaaah

WORD.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Eminem
And Last Week I Seen This Schwarzenegger Movie,
Where He's Shootin All Sorts Of These Mutha Fuckas Wit A UZI


^ help?.........

Buck.Marley 12-13-05 10:04 AM

Word, thats the shit, son! ^^^

Dunno what you mean by help tho lol.

Mad Dog 12-13-05 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck.Marley
Word, thats the shit, son! ^^^

Dunno what you mean by help tho lol.


lol na i meant the quote help?...and it did :thumbup:

Blay'all 12-13-05 10:07 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
1st it's not Schwarzenegger that convicts killers...that's judges...and jurours...besides...Tookie's lucky enough to see 25 years on death row...he's had countless court battles...he really is lucky they let it span out this long...he was put on death row long before Arnold was Governor...

2nd...i can see what you say honestly i can...but a jury's job is to look at the evidence before them and rule out anything that is considered a liability i.e no proof...there's no concrete proof of a cover up...only speculation...Tookie pleaded innocent...how many proven killers plead innocent...a lot...he's no different...i didn't know that a jury nowadays had to consist of 50% one race & 50% another..if it does then ok...but this was the 70's-80's people had woken up more to racism than in the MLK days...(don't take that last comment to heart it's jus what i feel)

you can't convict someone on he says she says...if people screamed conspiracy...and had the evidence to back it up...we might not even be talking about this...but FACT is...there's nothing concrete...so all we can do is move on from this...what's done is done...

nah, Arnie passed it the final time
AND, he's in control of California state laws, including the death penalty... and i'm against the death penalty all together, so no matter what its all still fucked

im sorry, but no matter what u say, that doesnt mean u kill him
thats like saying what he did is right, b/c thats just what ur doin to him...

Mad Dog 12-13-05 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Joey Carolina
nah, Arnie passed it the final time
AND, he's in control of California state laws, including the death penalty... and i'm against the death penalty all together, so no matter what its all still fucked

im sorry, but no matter what u say, that doesnt mean u kill him
thats like saying what he did is right, b/c thats just what ur doin to him...


i love the capital punishment debate it's such a decent dicussion...ye i know your stance...thing is though i'm all for an eye for an eye...thing is it's got to a point now where a parent can't even smack their own child without facing assault charges/social services on your ass...

we need to stamp the fuck down on crime...capital punishment IMO installs that tiny bit more fear into the mind of someone wanting to carry out a crime worthy of the death penalty...

bring back public hanging too...why the hell not...

Buck.Marley 12-13-05 10:23 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
lol na i meant the quote help?...and it did :thumbup:

Aiiight, I got you :thumbup:

thanks for the quote in that case, homeboy.

Blay'all 12-13-05 10:39 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
i love the capital punishment debate it's such a decent dicussion...ye i know your stance...thing is though i'm all for an eye for an eye...thing is it's got to a point now where a parent can't even smack their own child without facing assault charges/social services on your ass...

we need to stamp the fuck down on crime...capital punishment IMO installs that tiny bit more fear into the mind of someone wanting to carry out a crime worthy of the death penalty...

bring back public hanging too...why the hell not...

An eye for an eye and the whole world's blind...

- Ghandi

L. Veracity 12-13-05 11:06 AM

people change...I agree with both Mad Dog and Joey Carolina on some points...crime is bad, yes, but it's been happening since the beginning of time and it won't stop now...if death itself isn't a detourant what will be?...people are going to do as they please reguardless of what the consequences may be

as for Stanley "Tookie" Williams, there was no proof that he himself killed those people, all they really had was LOTS of speculation, he wasn't involved 1st hand...which, as your Hitler example, doesn't mke it right either, but the point is HE wasn't he only person involved

and yes, race on the jur DOES play a role...back then most white people would be scared and think any big black man like that, was a damn murderer and you can't den prejudice was most likely nivolved in SOME way in this case

La Cosa Nostra 12-13-05 06:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
look...we can go into detail about conspiracy theories, racism on the jury and what not...but i'm speaking from the view on the look he was a convicted killer...

people make up conspiracies all the time...JFK was killed by 2 people killing shot was grassy knolls

Elvis is alive...2Pacs alive...

Aliens crashed into Earth in Roswell...

fact is it's innocent until proven guilty...when he co-formed the crips...his people killed people...Hitler never killed anyone...but his people were commanded by him...he was the one pushing the buttons...jus like Osama....jus like Saddam...jus like Tookie...

ROFL... I am still in shock that mad dog tried to liken tookie to osama bin ladin, saddam husain and adolf hitler...

And nobody noticed this.........

Indeph 12-13-05 06:19 PM

ROfl @ a dude killing over 200 people and stashing them in his house and just getting life in prison. And tookie dying.

~Lady Fiya~ 12-13-05 06:46 PM

I hate when people talk bout something like they know what the fuck they talking bout. Tookie has no comparison to Adolf Hitler,wtf. Just rest it if you don't know what you talking bout.

Speats 12-13-05 06:55 PM

i was about to make a thread bout this,

R.I.P Tookie


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