Stating the not so obvious
 

This board couldn't be more disconnected with hip-hop OR rap. 3/4ths of the kids on here don't know jack shit about what's actualy goin on in rap, how how to do it, where it's going, where it came from, or anything! Dudes are always WAY behind the times here, songs are redundant as shit, same style every single boring song, same effects in every single track, same problems in every track that they never get off their lazy ass and correct, the same nerds are rapping in the same nerd-rap way, the same corny fucks with styles from 2001 are still using their 2001 crappy styles, same girls are still rapping generic and un-entertaining while you kiss their ass and tell em what they want to hear because you think you might some day see a tit on webcam. You're wack for that, you generic emcees with your corny-ass 1841 single sylable rhyme schemes are BEYOND boring, and anyone listening to any other rapper and studying them is an unoriginal, uncreative cockslider putting out music that's A: been done and B: obviously old.

I'm tired of being asked to leave feedback on someone's busted-ass track that's got no flow and ho-hum delivery with WACK net-producer gameboy sounding beats And on top of that, read 14 people saying "wow, this was ill" because they're just too god damn stupid to know what "ill" is. If you can't rap for shit its because you don't know shit needed to be nice. With that said, how the FUCK could you possibly leave knowledgable feedback on someone elses shit when you're rediculously unskilled your damn self??

Know your role and STFU. Oh yeah, to those of you who fit one of these decriptions, stop crying like a hoe when someone that's considered "more experienced" tells you your music sucked.

...Yeah. I suck at rap. :\ But the only audio I've done has pretty much gone in the comedy section of soundclick anyway, and that was a beat composed when I was being attacked by a dog. My brother was playing mainstream music for two fucking hours until it felt like I was going to fucking kill him and then burn down the apartment complex I live in and then headbutt my way through a few buildings. God I fucking hate mainstream.

I don't listen to much rap, excluding Bliss 'n Eso and stuff from people like LE and I'm getting into what Ike is doing. The fucking idiots around me don't like Bliss 'n Eso, but they'd much rather listen to 'rat-tat-tat I shot your dog and then ripped out its tonsils and stabbed you in the neck with them' worded different ways throughout a song to a shitty beat.

lmfao...................

What's annoying is some people aren't willing to help others elevate. Dooms is willing to share some basic knowledge, which is nice cuz he leaves the rest up to you. If you are willing to spends hours upon hours trying to learn tricks, then you really want to rap. If you don't feel it's worth the time then you give up.

Just seems like people fear creativity, or newcomers.

i usually aint feelin tha 1 sylable shit either. if its old skool, then its aight, but its fucking 2005, we shouldnt b doin that no mo. u know. werd

^ Hit me up on MSN, I ain't no hollaback grandma bitch.

hit me up on yo grandma's PMS, werd

I will love watching everyone else in this thread deny they fit into this category of herbs.

However, LMFAO.

man...i been saying this shyt since i got here.... dudes is judging how a nigga "types" a rhyme and got no idea on how the flow is.... lmao... how wack is that?... perfect example...i wrote a joint and posted it up in one of the text forums.... kats said my shyt was wack... look at the date i joined...lol... now with that said... i spit that same exact rhyme on the radio station where lady fiya works and dudes was like.... yo, that shyt is hot....keep dropping that fire....lmao.... kats on this site are idiots for da most part... at least when it comes to rap

I know I am not the best.....duh but i know i'm good for my age..and by the time I hit 18 at the rate i've been elavating i'll be at least good enough too really sell......and i still wont even be at my high point till i'm like 22 in my career.....but i agree with it....i mean some of these cats post in those audio threads and are liike OO THAT WAS DOPE I WANNA BUMP that but really it aint that nice...me i know i'm makin avg. songs that most likely are just throw away on a industry level mehh never took more then 10 mins too write a song.......but i'm sure if i sat and wrote for an hour i could come with somthing hard and i dont edit what i write i just spit it how i wrote it.....soo mehh if i had someone too help me with that i'd be better..but this site is just somthing i com eon too do for fun because i live where theres no where to go with no transportation till i can get my own drivers license and soon as i do then i'll be doing more shows and what not and hittin up the studio and blah blah blah....but yeah i feel u on this

^ don't use age as an excuse yo. No beef


cause I'm 15 and I wrote 3 songs off apexx's new shit.

Something told me I shouldn't have ever gave you those crack cookies.

IG - know what's funny? I said the exact same thing when I first got here. "The end is near."

Wuts funny is...I've been hit or miss with some tracks lately because I'm tryin so many things that are new to me, even if ideas or concepts have been done before. Fact is, there is NOTHING new under the sun. Every rapper at some point references another rapper or rehashes lines and/or concepts. With that said, the reason it works alot of times is because as an individual, you put your own spin on things. There's noone with your unique set of characteristics and experiences. That alone allows you to have a unique perspective if, and only if you spit the lyrics in a creative way--i.e., concrete imagery, fresh rhyme schemes/references. I do agree that I'm personally tired of hearing some tracks where it's the same delivery in every track. It's boring. I'm singing in my tracks now, using references that are unique or that are isoteric, and generally trying to come fresh in every track. Point being, when you click on a Q track, you don't know what you're getting.

Let the haters hate.

haz a song about killin babys in an oven bin dun b4? :cool: i think im tha 1st, werd

I'm bout to come with a concept that's so fresh, you'll have to refrigerate after opening.

^^uuugh...I promise it'll be better than that.



lol...

wow, this nigga snapped

I'm starting to proper fucking hate your threads apexx.

It really is usually some big headed bullshit.

The way I see it, you dont have to know every exact detail of hip hop, rap and all the artists involved, to know you love the music.

Fuck.

Oh yeah, And Ever think that PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

Fuckin dick,
just cos you dont like a beat, dont make it wack.
just cos you dont lke someones style, dont make it wack.

To be honest, I dont much like your music at all, I respect you for what ou'v done for the songs forum, and therefore this board, but shit. It sounds like its gettin to your head.

You're right, jsut cuz I don't liek a beat don't make it wack. the fact that it's on a beat structure that's about 8 years old and made with the same instruments that everyone else uses AND is repetitive and dosen't even have a hook written would make it wack. Being off-beat with it self would make it wack. Etc Etc.

Same applies for someone's style. I don't liek 50¢'s style, but is he wack? Definitely not. Mad people her ehave seen me leave em feed that reads "is this my type of track? no. Is it a good track? Yes". You wouldn't look so stupid if you actually read my feedback, or actually spoke to me. I'm not a little girl. My opinions are all objective.

Now, anyone who never spoke to me a day in their life and say they don't like me, or wanna try to get at me or whatever the hell, fuck em. You don't even know me to be saying that, so you think I give a flying fuck how you feel? Are you mad because the points mentioned here adresses people exactly like you?

But if you don't like my music for what ever reason, that's cool. It's your opinion and you have a right to it. Knock your self out. But that's no excuse for you jumping to conclusions like a fool.

I didnt jump to any conclusions. Your whole post at the start of the thread sounded like total bullshit, tryin to degrade anyone who you dont think is as good as you.

I dont have to know you, to know what you posted. Or to know I probly wouldnt like you.

And I'm not about to go round the board looking for your feedback. i dont care if its constructive, and chances are it probably is.

Dont even make sense adressing these points man, you shut your self down in every one of those sentences.

I agree...

I just hope I don't fall into this category.

If I do, forgive me, I'm working on it.

Another thing on this board: People who think they are the shit, but nobody else does. A person can't judge oneself's music, other than if there is something obviously wrong.

Me personally, I don't like my own songs but it's entertaining for some people.

See, ppl take offense to shit like this.

The way I see it is, dude is just keeping it real and saying what he feels.

Not everybody likes everything, if he don't feel it...what can you do?

If 1 nigga don't like ya shit...are you gonna adjust your style for that 1 nigga to feel it and lose respect from the other ppl that DO like ya shit? Shit, Chingy's fucking trash...hes still sold 2 million records.

So basically, if some dude says your wack, oh well. If 10 ppl hear 1 track and they all say it's trash, die.

Make music ya like who gives a shit what people think.. music is an expression of how u feel by display and words ..personally i try to elevate cuz of my own motivation not someones post .. i usually try to see someones courage in even making a song as i remember back in the dayz kids would be putting robot sounding shit on they lyrics cuz they were afraid someone wouldn t like they voice ..anyone who takes offense shows clear cut reason why they on rapverse 24/7 cuz in the real world yall got no heart

Yo not for nothing, but you only speak for 2 reasons: to teach, or to entertain. if you're only making music for your self or because you like it, then stop rapping.

I'm not god. What I like, and what is good music are sometimes entirely different. Would you tell an A/R that his opinion dosen't matter and that he's wrong? If he tells you something's wrong with your shit, put money on it that something's wrong with your shit. And deep down, you know he's not lying because he's right, something IS wrong with your shit. You're just too immature to accept it.

My "opinion" is a technical one. It isn't governed by what entertains me personally because I wouldn't be listening to anyone's music on ANY rap board if that were true. It's about "what people will buy". You can love it or hate it.

umm...i make music for myself..i like to hear myself spit..and i like to see how i can rip a beat...or rip another rapper....i don't ever expect to get signed...i don't realy give a fuck about getting signed....not that i wouldnt but..yea,theirs 1000000000 ppl trying to do this..EVERYBODY AND their brother wants to b a rapper now adays...so i put my time into more realistic goals....and for ppl trying to make it seriously ...you shouldnt b wasting time on a rap board...u take this site to serious man..u act like ppl give a fuck about net boards....RV is jus fun...not a job .. end of story !

and...who gives a fuck wut u like man ?..theirs a market for EVERYTHING..theirs a market for beasteality porno....theirs a market for candy coverd grasshoppers...fuck their might even be a martet for apexx records...who knows ??!!??

its funny how u say alot of tracks here suck which is true.. yet ur tracks as well aint good??? only good thing about them is quality.. thats about it

why I gotta hate?? why does he have to hate on basiclly 3/4th's of the peeps on here??? yeah alot of em well basiclly almost everyone here has busted up tracks.. but they can still elevate.. everyone started off wack man.. even the so called dope emcee doomsday started wack.. same with triple, Q, seventhird, 2pac, eminem etc.. everyone did.. you think anyone would start dope as hell with alot of creativity in their first track?? pfft.. no one can do that.. he's basiclly saying if u aint original in ur tracks or is creative than stop cuz hes tired of hearing wack tracks.. alot of audio heads here are newbs at audio but vets at text/topical/etc.. jst give em time and they'll get good..

Thats your opinion.

not really.. know couple ppl that think the same who themselves are pretty good aswell

oh, so its not your opnion?
You dislike Apexx msuic cos a couple OTHER ppl think that his music isnt good?

did i say that?? I said i know acouple people that think the same thing.. he knows alot about raps history and basiclly hip hop.. but doesnt know how to make great music.. yet he's telling other ppl of how to make their music better wen he cant do it himself

I said "thats your opnion"
you said
"not really"
then you went on to blatantly say
"I know people thats better than him that thinks he's wack"

but anyway, knowin rapmusic is the best way to improve your music.
why?
Cos he obviously knows whats been done before.
He's listened to greats, he knows whats good.
So if he KNOW whats good, then he should be able to help others.
Stop hattin nigga, cos he dissed you

blah blah blah, you're mad that I told you your flow was fucked up on your track and now I'm the bad guy for breaking your heart and all that bulshit, fuckin grow up. If you rap for your self, thne why do you submit tracks for feedback?

BTW, There ISN'T a market for "anything", that's the whole point!! The fact that you can't recognize that shows me that you don't know shit about music. The fact that you even mentioned "a market" shows me that you DO want other people to listen to and enjoy your shit. You're a liar. You might know how to write rhymes, but you don't know anything about the mechanics of being musically entertaining - and isn't that why you're rhyming? News Flash "Choke": No-one is going to invest in your (or ANYONES!!) CD full of off-beat lyrics and busted quality. If you're "rapping for your self", it's because no one else feels your shit, so you become your #1 fan. Dosen't that click in your head that something is wrong? But since you said you rap for your self, I don't expect to see any more shitty tracks from you stinking up the Songs forum.

Do you see how uneducated you look now? Pipe down. How to be more entertaining (and thereby, more marketable) is advice that people would kill for. It takes a dedicated idiot to throw that away.


Dabatos: You make it sound like a few people not liking my tracks is gonna hurt my feelings. No one can entertain everyone, so you're not telling me anything that any rapper dosent' already know. But it's funny how you played your self just like Choke just did. Your boy Will is sharp huh? Bottom line is this: You can like me or not like me, but no one can deny that I know my shit. You got emotional (you still mad that 5 months ago someoen called you "Debate-hoes" and I laughed at it?) and eventually got overwhelmed by these feelings. Your emotions have gotten the best of you and now you discount everything I say - for reasons I still don't know or care about. If you dislike me so much, then stop talking to me. Just keep talking behind my back like you've been doing. That's easy for you right?

The Bolded Red Font: Im not tryin to diss Choke or anything cause me and him are cool. I was just quoting it because it's basically the same damn thing I said to The Revelation.

The Bolded Blue Font: WHAT!!!????!!!???

Say what? I said you're sharp because you caugh Dabatos trying to bitch out on what we all knew was bullshit.

As for Choke, what are you talking about? Choke is no differnet than Dabatos here or that the Q was months ago. Same motive (Aoexx dosen't liek my music, so now I don't like him AT ALL!!), same results (so desperate to make me look bad that they make an ass of them selves), same little kid mentality, etc. Fuck em. Ask me what difference either of these clowns make in my life, lol.

word up
I thought you was tryin to be sarcastic, lol.

no....i could give a fuck less about wut u think...point blank bro....my shit is posted already...i got nuthin else to say man...ur shit is avrage at best....and no..i'm not "mad" cuz u dont like my shit...im mad @ the ignorent comments left...u can dislike my shit all u want....man ..u know wut..i dont give a fuck for real yo....ur garbage....point blank son...u got no lyrics wtf so-ever...who gives a fuck about ur quality yo..so u sucked a CO off...wtf u want a cookie man?..who gives a fuck...lyricaly i would destroy you...mentaly ..u are no were near me..their are sooo many aspects you can not fuck w me man...were u live in NJ anyway....i grew up their too....anyhow....umm yea..suck a dick man