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Triple_N 01-20-06 12:32 PM

Putting The Jay-Z debate to rest ONCE AN FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!
 
okay first off heres the official "KNOWN" list of katz he bit(not once but repeatedly)


Biggie
Snoop Dogg
Slick Rick
Big L
Rakim
Nas
Big Daddy Kane
Tupac


Now, jay only admitted to "biggin up!" Biggie...wheres the other sevens big up?hmmmmmmmmm :thumbup:

Heres even more SHOCKING INFO.......I researched this cuz in junior high& early highschool, I was a Jay fanatic...izzo, renegade, jigga that nigga...them tracks STAYED in my cd player...so when this Jay being a biter shit came up I was like most..thought it was bullshit......but then I started researching cuz I had to prove the claims wrong for myself....what I found out in addition to that listed above^^^was Jay's too boys back in marcy was "Jaz" that did that carribean video which was jay's first cameo...an another emcee an "ACCREDITED GHOSTWRITER"(most noteably wrote missing you by P.diddy his tribute to big wit sting on it) nowadays, sauce money.....Jaz dissed jay back in 1999 an in a interview he said Jay was a nerd in school...he use to follow him an sauce around an mimic them(boy did he perfect mimicing)....in the diss he talked about how jay STOLE sauce's style....which if u peep early Jay an u peep sauce....u can notice sum serious similarities...to compound the already harsh truth...in 2000 jay sort out sauce...an hired him to the roc.....but sauce never released a album on the roc, an was never listed as a artist on the roc..an sauce has no managerial skills......its rumored he was co-writing sum of jay's shit to follow like blueprint, bp 2, etc.....I mean u gotta ask....wtf is he doing there if he aint working on a album?......if your an emcee then u know its a morbit SIN to bite....biters deserve NO CRED period.....as far everyday people......shit! the public'll buy any hyped up bullshit....give it a nice beat an a market plan an POOF! u got a platinum rapper....add the borrowed swagger, delivery, flow, an lyrics of talented unknowns, legends, an icons of the game an u got a multi-plat rapper.

La Cosa Nostra 01-20-06 12:37 PM

Well said......

Acuity 01-20-06 12:52 PM

you just merked Q...

Immense 01-20-06 12:54 PM

so because this jaz n sauce say so..it must be true right?

La Cosa Nostra 01-20-06 12:57 PM

He said its noticable if you check it out for yourself since you obviously didnt read the full sentence and just picked out the parts you wanted to try to misquote and discredit...

leady 01-20-06 01:33 PM

seriously immense... u need to hop off jay's dick, the guy is getting credit for other peoples work.

notice how u only mentioned the shit about wat was said my jaz n sauce and had nothing to say about all the people his bitten... yeh exactly, point proven

Immense 01-20-06 01:53 PM

stop being fuckin stupid

leady 01-20-06 02:09 PM

whos being stupid???? ur the one giving a man respect for using lines he didnt write and reppin a crew thats been dead for ages

Compose 01-20-06 02:11 PM

Theres a track on the internet that specifically shows which lines he bit from those artists, it says the artists line and then the one jay said, exactly the same most of the time, jay's a biter, i kept trying to tell people he only said he bigged up biggie thats the only shit people could come back with but im like wtf? wat about the other people, yall need to hop off jays dick and realize he bites, wats he bigging up pac too? dont think so

Immense 01-20-06 02:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
whos being stupid???? ur the one giving a man respect for using lines he didnt write and reppin a crew thats been dead for ages



:nono: wow at the crew being dead...it wasnt my first priority to race on the site and change it then hop in another crew for the next 3 months...my sig will never be changed again...i post on here like once a month now..fuck what the sig says...

why cant u accept that people will still like jay..i been listening to him since i can remember....i dont hate on any rapper...who the fuck are you to talk...

i hate it when people say someone in the game is whack,then i click on their soundclick and here the garbage that i do.....people need to think before they speak...

leady 01-20-06 02:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Immense
:nono: wow at the crew being dead...it wasnt my first priority to race on the site and change it then hop in another crew for the next 3 months...my sig will never be changed again...i post on here like once a month now..fuck what the sig says...

why cant u accept that people will still like jay..i been listening to him since i can remember....i dont hate on any rapper...who the fuck are you to talk...

i hate it when people say someone in the game is whack,then i click on their soundclick and here the garbage that i do.....people need to think before they speak...


lmfao @ this retard.

first of all, despite what anybody may think of my music, i have as much right to cal anybody i want wack as does jay-z, nas, fab, jadakis, papoose any fucker else out there... its called OPINIONS..... second of all, fare enough ppl will listen to it, im not denying that, tell me where i did.... but people respecting him and saying its ok to bite lines when if it sum1 whos less known they wud automatically rip into them... and lol @ you judging music thats over 6 months old of mine..... and maybe i best start coming with a wack generic commercial sound because it seems thats what u like judging from the names uve mentioned u like to listen to.

moron

Immense 01-20-06 02:46 PM

once again...tell me some artists you listen too.............ill guarantee ill find some reused lines.....

Indeph 01-20-06 02:53 PM

Come on leave jay alone. He went from a nerd in school who everyone calls ugly to a leader in mainstream hip hop. That's an accomplishment.

Compose 01-20-06 03:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indeph
Come on leave jay alone. He went from a nerd in school who everyone calls ugly to a leader in mainstream hip hop. That's an accomplishment.

1. aand how do you know he was called a nerd in school?
2. shut the fuck up :shoot:
3. exit your school, 'pronto'

Indeph 01-20-06 03:10 PM

1. It says he was a nerd in school
2. Shut the fuck up
3. I ditched school today, I'm just never unblocking you.

Compose 01-20-06 03:12 PM

1.so?.........
2.k
3.k

J. Luth 01-20-06 03:46 PM

1. you guys both need to stfu
2. boo @ jay-z biting
3. Word @ this thread
4. Indeph join m.a.s
5. pc

Pop Lotty 01-20-06 06:38 PM

So you're just gonna forget about all the other Jay tracks and just focus on this shit...

Tha Q. 01-20-06 06:39 PM

"biting"..."quoting"...this is nothing but Jay Hate...plain and simple




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DatNi99A 01-20-06 06:50 PM

well said... always knew Jay was a biter but didnt know he bit all them kats too... even big daddy kane huh? haha ... well done triple

Tha Q. 01-20-06 06:59 PM

OH...one more thing


Triple...I've had other conversations with you where you "shit on" other rappers who are respected. DAwg, you're startin to sound like the Hip Hop investigative reporter. Who do you like? According to Trip, who is real. I think you're a hater, plain and simple. You don't like 50 cent. You hate Jay. You think Biggie is overrated. Is there ANY RAPPER ON EARTH who lives up to your lofty standards? Those people are well established and deserve the respect they get. In fact, I've heard SOOOOOO many other rappers in your style Trip, it's not even funny.

Xzibit

Pras


When you "sing", you sound like Game now...

Who else?


If I'm not mistaken, one of your goals is to make a name for yourself, right? I CAN NOT WAIT, CAN'T WAIT for the day when you achieve success and then some bitch ass SCRUB starts whining about how "fake" you are.

Actually, I'm not a scrub or a bitch. But, I can vouch that you're fake as it is, and a pathological fibber.

You DO NOT want me to blow your shit up again. I find it IRONIC that the people who support you are doing EXACTLY, EXACTLY what you're accusing Jay's fans of doing, standing BY YOU.


Oh...and before you come in here to "merk" me--or so you think--remember, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY because you're bent on shooting down people who have achieved what you never will, success.


Actually...I take back that last statement...I don't know if you'll achieve success or not...That was wrong of me. I just hope you GET what you DEAL.


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J. Luth 01-20-06 07:02 PM

It's the R to the A to the K I M..... ~_~

Compose 01-20-06 07:07 PM

^Ra is a god...

J. Luth 01-20-06 07:18 PM

word, Watcher Pt. 2 is ill. Dre ill in it, Rakim illest, and Jay is jus aiight in it. wordness

Pop Lotty 01-20-06 07:42 PM

lmao, spul is a hater too...

noname 01-20-06 07:44 PM

Big L > Rakim

:slick:

J. Luth 01-20-06 08:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pop Lotty
lmao, spul is a hater too...

lmao I ain't hate Jay, give him props for what he did. I jus ain't like his style too much. only like maybe one or 2 of his tracks. all personal preference. But biting all those people is gay though.

Logic The Goonie 01-20-06 09:28 PM

I don't even care, he can bite all he wants, that still doesn't take away from the fact barely anyone is better than him biting or spitting his own shit. And shit, you can't ever really speak on what you don't really know about, you have no idea why he did it and if the people he did it to agreed, so, *doesn't care*

Indeph 01-20-06 09:31 PM

Most/all of the mainstream rappers don't completly write their own shit anyway. I mean damn have you ever looked in the album booklets lately? It always says "writen by: Rapper, someguy,another guy". Having ghostwriters and biting are the exact same thing.

Triple_N 01-21-06 01:01 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
OH...one more thing


Triple...I've had other conversations with you where you "shit on" other rappers who are respected. DAwg, you're startin to sound like the Hip Hop investigative reporter. Who do you like? According to Trip, who is real. I think you're a hater, plain and simple. You don't like 50 cent. You hate Jay. You think Biggie is overrated. Is there ANY RAPPER ON EARTH who lives up to your lofty standards? Those people are well established and deserve the respect they get. In fact, I've heard SOOOOOO many other rappers in your style Trip, it's not even funny.

Xzibit

Pras


When you "sing", you sound like Game now...

Who else?

^^^^first of all, I laugh at the sheer angry towards me clearly in this passage, so I wont even respond to it. Secondly, I disrespected No one....everything I said about Jay was Truth...an then I ended it with "MY OPINION"...last I checked opinion didn't = fact...I didn't suggest a boycout of Jay-z..I even said I use to be a huge fan of Jay....but for me personally, finding out about the biting deflated his image in my eyes an I couldn't respect him anymore....an I never shitted on big..I said he wasn't the greastest of all time...I never said he was wack...I agree Big is "ONE" of the greats not "THE GREASTEST" if you could name 5 considered legends from the time that big was around......I would explain my opinion to you...but u can't, so its a waste of your & my time.

If I'm not mistaken, one of your goals is to make a name for yourself, right? I CAN NOT WAIT, CAN'T WAIT for the day when you achieve success and then some bitch ass SCRUB starts whining about how "fake" you are.

Actually, I'm not a scrub or a bitch. But, I can vouch that you're fake as it is, and a pathological fibber.

^^^^LMFAO, again more anger...am I doomsday's substitute?

You DO NOT want me to blow your shit up again. I find it IRONIC that the people who support you are doing EXACTLY, EXACTLY what you're accusing Jay's fans of doing, standing BY YOU.

^^^^BUAWWWWWWWWWWWW...what?

Oh...and before you come in here to "merk" me--or so you think--remember, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY because you're bent on shooting down people who have achieved what you never will, success.

^^^^^^^^if u don't give a shit what I have to say..why did u even read what I posted..an to compound that fact, why did u take the time to type out this drawn out post?....makes ya wonder :thumbup:

Actually...I take back that last statement...I don't know if you'll achieve success or not...That was wrong of me. I just hope you GET what you DEAL.

^^^^well, I know I never will but in the hypothetic circumstance that I did bite someone...an someone called me on it, I would be more than deserving of it. And, would own up to it an try to salvage whats left of my cred.
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wow@all of this here....for the record..I hate on no one....I don't go around discrediting people. like sum of do us:rolleyes: ....what I said about Jay-z has been blasting all over radio...I was simply restating facts presented by someone else...jus becuz someone has went platinum several times doesn't mean all of the world should bow at his/her feet....music is a personalized thing...everyone has different tastes, intrepretations , an viewpoints as to what good music is.

leady 01-21-06 01:03 AM

jigga has also bitten from snoop dogg and slick rick

.Ike. 01-21-06 01:07 AM

Q....your a fucking tard

Ca'lam 01-21-06 01:19 AM

hmm..

Im not a Hater, but Jay-z did bite. The only reason he bit is because he fuckin put out 20 thousand Albums.. I mean, shit.. after all them lyrics, you have to resort to something right... ?


but on the other hand, Tupac never bit shit, neither did biggie.. and tupac put out a bit of shit.. Busta Rhymes never bit.. Rakim Never bit.. but then again, asking someone to be creative is to much right ?

as for somebody sayind a played or re-used lines.. no.. artists dont do that.. they put their spin on it..

jayz literally just repeated exactly wtf they said... but he is a millionare and established so people make him to be some sort of god and suck his dick.. i say grow some balls and tell it like it is

leady 01-21-06 01:27 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ca'lam
hmm..

Im not a Hater, but Jay-z did bite. The only reason he bit is because he fuckin put out 20 thousand Albums.. I mean, shit.. after all them lyrics, you have to resort to something right... ?


but on the other hand, Tupac never bit shit, neither did biggie.. and tupac put out a bit of shit.. Busta Rhymes never bit.. Rakim Never bit.. but then again, asking someone to be creative is to much right ?

as for somebody sayind a played or re-used lines.. no.. artists dont do that.. they put their spin on it..

jayz literally just repeated exactly wtf they said... but he is a millionare and established so people make him to be some sort of god and suck his dick.. i say grow some balls and tell it like it is


exactly................

TeamOne 01-21-06 06:17 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
He said its noticable if you check it out for yourself since you obviously didnt read the full sentence and just picked out the parts you wanted to try to misquote and discredit...


hmmmmmm u ever think that guy stole Jay Zs style........ thats wat he meant...... so STFU

Tha Q. 01-21-06 06:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ca'lam
hmm..

Im not a Hater, but Jay-z did bite. The only reason he bit is because he fuckin put out 20 thousand Albums.. I mean, shit.. after all them lyrics, you have to resort to something right... ?


but on the other hand, Tupac never bit shit, neither did biggie.. and tupac put out a bit of shit.. Busta Rhymes never bit.. Rakim Never bit.. but then again, asking someone to be creative is to much right ?

as for somebody sayind a played or re-used lines.. no.. artists dont do that.. they put their spin on it..

jayz literally just repeated exactly wtf they said... but he is a millionare and established so people make him to be some sort of god and suck his dick.. i say grow some balls and tell it like it is



Jay Z has spit 10000000000 of lyrics. Focusing on a few--relatively speaking--that he "borrowed" and not giving him credit for writing the other 1000000000 lyrics is reaching. The fact is, Jay Z's voice is the one you hear rapping those hot ass verses. The man can flow. And, unlike most heads on RV, I happen to be a fan of flow. Lyrics are important, obviously. But, I could give a shit about how "deep" someone THINKS they are when their flow is trash.


Deep is a matter of opinion anyway


What you all consider "deep" I may consider routine, and vice versa.


Nuff said.

Pop Lotty 01-21-06 08:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ca'lam
hmm..

Im not a Hater, but Jay-z did bite. The only reason he bit is because he fuckin put out 20 thousand Albums.. I mean, shit.. after all them lyrics, you have to resort to something right... ?


but on the other hand, Tupac never bit shit, neither did biggie.. and tupac put out a bit of shit.. Busta Rhymes never bit.. Rakim Never bit.. but then again, asking someone to be creative is to much right ?

as for somebody sayind a played or re-used lines.. no.. artists dont do that.. they put their spin on it..

jayz literally just repeated exactly wtf they said... but he is a millionare and established so people make him to be some sort of god and suck his dick.. i say grow some balls and tell it like it is

Ricky, Ricky, Ricky can't you see, sometimes your words just hypnotize me!

Now go listen to Hypnotize... :cool:


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