You guys are fucking dumb about the bible.
 

The Devil isn't evil. thats a false sterotype.

The Devil wasn't Gods top angel either, fucking idiots.

Lucifer had different thoughts about God belief, he questioned God on things that we obviously dont know, so instead of God Smiting him he sent him off.

And in the bible it never says anything about "hell" being all that you see in movies or t.v shows. for all you know it could be as nice as heaven.


How do you know that "God" was doing something tottaly wrong? and Devil didn't believe in that... you never know.

OMFG how fucking dumb can you be dawg, the devil IS evil he didnt just question god he tried 2 fukin overthrow his shithead, and WTF u mean he wasnt gods top angel, i swear u r so dumb, and in the bible it says that hell is a lake of fire, you cuntbag, why are you alive? god doing something wrong and the devil no believing in it omg u r so stupid, the devi thought he was as good as god and even better, so him being as dumb as you tried to overthrow him as god, and got his dumbass sent to hell, now he tries to take gods souls, and thats evil u donkey rapin shiteater, my fuckni goodness, how many dumb threads in CA u gon make, die slow

werd

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Owned !!!,,.............................

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Ok, first off, The Devil was one of God's top angels, and he didn't 'disagree', he was greedy and tried to overthrow God so he could rule. Thus the war of heaven and hell. Then God banished him to hell, where he could contain him so he couldn't try that again. The Bible says that hell is eternal torture, so unless you enjoy torture it is not gonna be fun for you.

Don't try and act smart Serb, you are going against a kid well scripted in The Bible, and Q too. He is also well scripted.

Rofl I think serbness is the anti christ.

personally christianity is flawed

like any other religion...

i.e satan is all evil...but he never wiped out the world bar 2 of each animal like god did...

i.e satan didn't kill all of jacobs family make him ill kill all his animals and crops just to make a point that jacob would still worship him like god did

i.e satan didn't make that one guy (i don't read the bible so forgive me for not remembering the name) go up to the top of the mountain to sacrifice his son to prove he loves him more than his son like god did (only god stopped him but still a mad wind up)

and if god is all loving. why do we fear him?

why is it if we live our life like a christian charitably forgivingly and lovingly but leave out a prayer or an "i believe" that person would go to hell forever whereas a rapist child molesting killer could repent on his death bed and gain access to heaven?

you know fill me in coz i'm really thinkin that the devil is a lot nicer than God from where i'm standing...

Religion is flawed, but the beliefs aren't.

^^Agreed
People religiously SIN.


Spirituality is based on faith. There is no flaw in God's word. It's the only thing that will last forever.

I'll wait until Nostradamus or One Man Band post to actually read this shit ass thread, as they've been the only people I've seen who actually know what the hell they're talking about with religion.

wow you guys should just shut the fuck up.

holy fuck, first off the guy who said "Hell" is a lakefire of toture" , is the biggest fucking idiot ever.


"Hell" means grave in the bible. you fucking idiot. thats the exact meaning.

and lucifer wasn't the top angel you fucking morons, Joseph was. go ask anyone who has read the bible or go ask a priest.


And Lucifer did question God beliefs.. thats why he tried to take over or show his own beleif.

Serb Suck Dick.

LOL....if ya'll only knew.....if ya'll only knew......

do some real reading...and come back with this thread

I've read the whole bible.

And im telling you that no where in the bible it claims that "Hell" is a bad place and is how you see in t.v

but your a ugly sheep, so of course you cant see other ways.

i can't take a stance on this just yet so im just gonna wait for serb to provoke all the dudes in RICH ENT into owning him with more knowledge...

while they're dealing with serb im gonna go read the bible

i'll be back in a few days

First off, God wiped out the world because of the deepness of Sin that man was in. THus, sin is associated with Lucifer. Oh, and the guy's name wasnt Jacob, it was Job. God did not kill Job family. If you read in the Bible, Satan came to God and basically asked permission to try Job, because he believed that Job wasnt as holy as God thought he was. So, God let Satan try Job. He didnt make Jacob worship him because every human being has the right to Freewill. Read Chapter 1 of Job, it explains it. Job is quoted for saying one of the most well known scriptures in the bible. Job 1 Chapter 21 reads, "And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away; Blessed be the name of the Lord." (King James Version.) And the guy that you are talking about, his name was Abraham, and his son's name was Issac. God himself tested Abraham because he wanted to see how deep his faith was. Genesis chapter 22 explains the story. Verse 11 and 12 state, "and the angel of the Lord called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I. And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou has not withheld thy son, thine only son from me" (King James Version).
Secondly, the fear that you are using is being used in a different text then what is used in the bible. In the old testiment, fear is associated with "religion", while in the new testiment, it refers to those who are faithful towards God. Also, God is no respecter of person, therefore a sin is a sin. A person that has lied is just a guilty if not guilter than a person who has raped someone. The mindset of man has created the various degrees of sin, not God. However, there are sins that are specified in the Bible that are considered more blatant towards God.

But that should Help Mad Dog. If you need to know anything else, just get at me.

wow omg wtf? im flabergasted at your stupidity, im not even going to waste my time telling you how dumb your making yourself look, but your right, burning in a lake of fire for eternity sounds rushing!, i tell you what, live your life in sin and have fun with lucifer, and how long exactly did it take you to read the whole bible?

I've been reading the bible since i was 13.

i read it ever day before i go to bed.

and no your the idiot. you haven't read the fucking bible.

like i said... im not calling you a idiot, im just saying that i know you haven't read it. cuz it "Hell" means Grave. thats it.

wtf your the biggest fucking sheep ever.

Seriously i hate sheeps like you.

you HAVEN"T read the fucking bible and you saying they owning me? im taking quotes from the fucking bible to state my points, while these kids are just saying what they see on t.v cartoons.

get the fuck outta here.

ur fucking dumb dogg, and i could care less what hell means son, so your making no point AT ALL

Wow, I hate fucking religious arguments.

Let's see what In-Vision said...can God made a boulder so big he cannot lift it? Can he make a square circle? Why did God not foresee Satan's rebellion and if God is all-powerful, why has he not crushed Lucifer? Isn't the prospect of the Big Bang as possible as God existing, something coming from nothing? Could the universe not be eternal, recycling itself? You call people idiots because they don't believe in something made in a time of darkness to regulate things such as murder to make people know their is suffering? Your argument is atheists are stupid because they're skeptical to something made a long time ago in an era of ignorance, but your only proof is the feeling in your heart that comes from the thought an all-knowing being occupies you? Sorry for being skeptical, but you lose faith once you sit there for a long time asking for the simplest of miracles to reinstate my faith. If this is a test, it's not fair at all. You can say it's not meant to be fair, but still man...it's a lot easier to believe that there is a higher being like I do, just one that is easier to believe. If God is everywhere, is he in Hell? Could you ask for forgiveness in Hell, or has God turned a blind eye to you?

:\ Just a few curious questions.

Rofl.

I wasn't paying attention before. i prolly stopped what i was typing and went to grab some food.


but i take that back, you are a idiot. cuz you where just aruging about what hell is and now you said you dont care and there is no point at all. so you the dumb fag.

I hope you weren't saying you read the whole Bible before bed. Do you just like causing controversy?

Um........... if hell.... aka... eternal damnation... aka... lake of fire... aka... im gonna give you a few bible passages where you can find the word hell used... and i guareentee!!!!!!!!!!! every description of "hell" is a bad place and some where you wouldnt wanna pass the time.


Deut 32:22
Proverbs 5:5
Matt 5:22
Matt 10:28 ( this describes your soul and body being destroyed in hell)

ummmmmmmmmmmmm so basicly you can take your IGNORENT/ SATANIC beliefs and false truth else where... because the BIBLE does not falter and does not contradict itself nor does it leave anything out... the bible covers our history from begining to end... granted we'll always have questions about GOD... but faith is... the belief in things not seen... and the faith the size the grain of a mustard seed can move mountains!...


so i dont know what your intention or purpose is/was with the posting of a thread like this... but... what ever it is/was... i hope that you find Jesus... and i'll be praying for you.... because you obivously need Jesus...


and if your going to be Bringing false accusations or untruths against MY GOD... you had better have some sorta research going... or something... cuz if you had researched your mute point you wouldnt have ever wasted any of our time.


GOD BE WITH YOU

No.

I read it everyday before i go to sleep. it took me 2 years to read the bible.

i dont read alot.... lil by lil each day.

Your not geting my point tho.

"Hell" means Grave. thats what im saying.

and you guys are acting like a worship the devil... i dont belive nothing.

i think God and Devil are fake, they just there for people who are scared.

so basically when God killed the entire world bar 2 of each that wasn't a sin

a George Orwell quote comes to mind here...

Every one is equal...but some are more equal than others...

and the fact that Satan asked God to test Job or Jacob or whatever to prove his love for god contradicts the fact of we are to ignore satans pleads to commit sin...therefore by allowing god to effectively "punish" job JUST to prove a point doesn't seem like a very nice thing to do...i mean Gods all knowing...so he wouldn't need to prove to satan that job loved him...he'd just know that...so why put job through all that trauma...just to get one over on Satan...why couldn't God just ignore satan like he asks us to do...



^ tell me i didn't see contradictory there...God is no respecter of man so a sin is a sin...fair enough...BUT there's sins he's labelled as more blatant towards God? like murder and saying [lie]sorry love traffic was hectic[/lie] are exactly the same in sin terms...and i know of cardinal (unforgivable) sins...Gods sposed to be all forgiving yet certain people comitt a cardinal sin are automatically shunned from heaven?

i get that you have ya beliefs and i respect them purely because i'm not one sided on opinion i like to believe there is a God or an afterlife because i can't imagine dying and then "that's it"...but i just think that people have overrated God and made mistakes along the way...

it's like why create us if he doesn't respect us? sure he can be chuffed @ the fact he created life but that's like curing cancer and being disapointed with curing it

ROFL!!

omfg Bible doesn't record shit about history.

what a guy followed jesus around and spyied on him while he did all this stuff?

please stfu.

serb... if i had a word to describe u...it would be...IGNORANCE. all i have to say...1

If i had a word to describe you i wouldn't, cuz i dont know you but by your name and by your sig you have 666... so yeah your a ignorance fag.

No, you don't want to think that someone else other than our species and the species we know exist. You are afraid of the thought of something we can't see to be true. You are of the mentality, if I can't see it, it isn't real. How bout you stop trying to explain everything with the things you don't know. You are afraid that something may exist and we can't see it, which means it is smarter than us, stronger than us, and can easily kill us with a snap of its fingers. You think that reading The Bible makes you skilled in the Bible? Haha. You have no idea what The Bible says and you don't even read it. I suggest you actually back up what you say, because right now you are losing this debate.

i doubt that the bible doesnt say anywhere the devil is evil....read revelations....before you go talkin shit make sure u know what u are talkin bout