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locknes 03-03-06 06:16 PM

proof that there is no hell
 
there is no hell i believe in the bible and in god so i have my proof


this is what god said to adam when he died
Genesis 3:19
in the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return
to the ground for out of it you were taken for dust you are
and dust you will return.

^if there was a hell he would have said it here
plus he explain that we came out of the ground and go back to the ground.

more proof
i make my piont with this one

jeremiah 7:31
and they have built the high places of to`peth, which is in the valley of the son of hin`nom in order to burn their sons and thier daughters in the fire a thing i had not commanded and that had not come up in my heart .

^ if god did not aprove of burnin people who did bad things
why would he aprove of hell and hell is everlasting.

Indeph 03-03-06 06:19 PM

I'm so damn happy nejla turned me muslim. This shit is complicated. We won't find any of this out untill we die. I believe that heaven and hell is all on earth. If I'm wrong I'm wrong. If I'm right I'm right.

J. Luth 03-03-06 06:23 PM

^lmao @ muslim. if that's true deph. I don't even know you anymore

Indeph 03-03-06 06:26 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPuLâ„¢
^lmao @ muslim. if that's true deph. I don't even know you anymore


Lmao I'm dead serious. Ask her when she gets on.

locknes 03-03-06 06:34 PM

what do muslims believe in

~Lady Fiya~ 03-03-06 06:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by locknes
there is no hell i believe in the bible and in god so i have my proof


this is what god said to adam when he died
Genesis 3:19
in the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return
to the ground for out of it you were taken for dust you are
and dust you will return.

^if there was a hell he would have said it here
plus he explain that we came out of the ground and go back to the ground.

more proof
i make my piont with this one

jeremiah 7:31
and they have built the high places of to`peth, which is in the valley of the son of hin`nom in order to burn their sons and thier daughters in the fire a thing i had not commanded and that had not come up in my heart .

^ if god did not aprove of burnin people who did bad things
why would he aprove of hell and hell is everlasting.


I don't know if I should even start on this, and I'mma pretend Indeph didn't post in here.

Daubs 03-03-06 06:37 PM

Man made bullshit n a book proves theres no hell?, naa.

Indeph 03-03-06 06:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Lady Fiya~
I don't know if I should even start on this, and I'mma pretend Indeph didn't post in here.


Get online you joot.

~Lady Fiya~ 03-03-06 07:02 PM

Don't call me that. No.

But in response to what you said (locknes):
The statement God made to Adam is talking bout his flesh our bodies. We were made from the earth and returned back there. You can think of it as our body desinegrating over time or burial itself (like in a casket). You looking too far into it.

And the second quote you has only says that God is not pleased that they are burning their CHILDREN. That doesn't prove there is no hell.

I'll show you a quote that God talks about hell. Since you are in the old testament, I'll show you a scripture. Aight, this one is Deuteronomy 32:22... first off, God is unpleased with the way Isreal aka God's "sons and daughters" backslid. They didn't appreciate God and started worshipping other gods, and 6 other sins. You can read up on yourself.

But God was upset and he said he will not show his face to them because they made him jealous because they are serving other gods and tried to play him for a fool basically.

"For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and SHALL BURN UNTO THE LOWEST HELL, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains."

if you go a little further, he says:
"They shall be burnt with hunger, and DEVOURED WITH BURNING HEAT, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of the beast upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust." (verse 24)


btw, that's the King James Version of the Bible.

THERE IS A HELL. THE END.

TaShay 03-03-06 07:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Lady Fiya~
Don't call me that. No.

But in response to what you said (locknes):
The statement God made to Adam is talking bout his flesh our bodies. We were made from the earth and returned back there. You can think of it as our body desinegrating over time or burial itself (like in a casket). You looking too far into it.

And the second quote you has only says that God is not pleased that they are burning their CHILDREN. That doesn't prove there is no hell.

I'll show you a quote that God talks about hell. Since you are in the old testament, I'll show you a scripture. Aight, this one is Deuteronomy 32:22... first off, God is unpleased with the way Isreal aka God's "sons and daughters" backslid. They didn't appreciate God and started worshipping other gods, and 6 other sins. You can read up on yourself.

But God was upset and he said he will not show his face to them because they made him jealous because they are serving other gods and tried to play him for a fool basically.

"For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and SHALL BURN UNTO THE LOWEST HELL, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains."

if you go a little further, he says:
"They shall be burnt with hunger, and DEVOURED WITH BURNING HEAT, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of the beast upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust." (verse 24)


btw, that's the King James Version of the Bible.

THERE IS A HELL. THE END.



And the TruTh She Spoke.... :thumbup:

Sean Gunner 03-03-06 07:08 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Lady Fiya~
Don't call me that. No.

But in response to what you said (locknes):
The statement God made to Adam is talking bout his flesh our bodies. We were made from the earth and returned back there. You can think of it as our body desinegrating over time or burial itself (like in a casket). You looking too far into it.

And the second quote you has only says that God is not pleased that they are burning their CHILDREN. That doesn't prove there is no hell.

I'll show you a quote that God talks about hell. Since you are in the old testament, I'll show you a scripture. Aight, this one is Deuteronomy 32:22... first off, God is unpleased with the way Isreal aka God's "sons and daughters" backslid. They didn't appreciate God and started worshipping other gods, and 6 other sins. You can read up on yourself.

But God was upset and he said he will not show his face to them because they made him jealous because they are serving other gods and tried to play him for a fool basically.

"For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and SHALL BURN UNTO THE LOWEST HELL, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains."

if you go a little further, he says:
"They shall be burnt with hunger, and DEVOURED WITH BURNING HEAT, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of the beast upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust." (verse 24)


btw, that's the King James Version of the Bible.

THERE IS A HELL. THE END.


And God said it was good.

Germ 03-03-06 07:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by locknes
there is no hell i believe in the bible and in god so i have my proof


this is what god said to adam when he died
Genesis 3:19
in the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return
to the ground for out of it you were taken for dust you are
and dust you will return.

^if there was a hell he would have said it here
plus he explain that we came out of the ground and go back to the ground.

more proof
i make my piont with this one

jeremiah 7:31
and they have built the high places of to`peth, which is in the valley of the son of hin`nom in order to burn their sons and thier daughters in the fire a thing i had not commanded and that had not come up in my heart .

^ if god did not aprove of burnin people who did bad things
why would he aprove of hell and hell is everlasting.


while you're at it, just prove heaven isn't real as well

OOOPS, there goes religion and belief...

~Lady Fiya~ 03-03-06 07:21 PM

How does what he said prove that hell isn't real? -_-

Dirty Nigga 03-03-06 07:22 PM

lol @ heaven & hell

ya'll on a trip right now, man.

~Lady Fiya~ 03-03-06 07:30 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carmelo
lol @ heaven & hell

ya'll on a trip right now, man.


Maybe you need a trip to realize there is both a heaven and a hell, man. = )

Terumoto 03-03-06 07:37 PM

You really cant just quote the bible out of context and try to prove things.

Thats a fucking stupid thing to do. For example:

Revelations 12:3
"Then another sign appeared in heaven. An enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his head. His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky..."

hmmm ok this proves the existence of giant tail-sweeping dragons. Yeah. Cos it came from the bible.

Now I will prove that sperm, urine and shit are tools of the devil.

Leviticus 15:2
"When any man has a bodily discharge, the discharge is unclean. Whether it continues flowing from his body or is blocked, it will make him unclean."

There you have it. Proof that hanging a shit is a sin.

Dirty Nigga 03-03-06 07:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Lady Fiya~
Maybe you need a trip to realize there is both a heaven and a hell, man. = )

Na man...Only trip I'll be takin is with the worms, wood and dirt when I die.

locknes 03-03-06 07:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Lady Fiya~
Don't call me that. No.

But in response to what you said (locknes):
The statement God made to Adam is talking bout his flesh our bodies. We were made from the earth and returned back there. You can think of it as our body desinegrating over time or burial itself (like in a casket). You looking too far into it.

And the second quote you has only says that God is not pleased that they are burning their CHILDREN. That doesn't prove there is no hell.

I'll show you a quote that God talks about hell. Since you are in the old testament, I'll show you a scripture. Aight, this one is Deuteronomy 32:22... first off, God is unpleased with the way Isreal aka God's "sons and daughters" backslid. They didn't appreciate God and started worshipping other gods, and 6 other sins. You can read up on yourself.

But God was upset and he said he will not show his face to them because they made him jealous because they are serving other gods and tried to play him for a fool basically.

"For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and SHALL BURN UNTO THE LOWEST HELL, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains."

if you go a little further, he says:
"They shall be burnt with hunger, and DEVOURED WITH BURNING HEAT, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of the beast upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust." (verse 24)


btw, that's the King James Version of the Bible.

THERE IS A HELL. THE END.

actualy there is no hell because the word hell comes from the hebrew word (she'ol)
which means grave

locknes 03-03-06 07:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by locknes
there is no hell i believe in the bible and in god so i have my proof


this is what god said to adam when he died
Genesis 3:19
in the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return
to the ground for out of it you were taken for dust you are
and dust you will return.

^if there was a hell he would have said it here
plus he explain that we came out of the ground and go back to the ground.


this means that we die and thats the end of it can a paralyze person feel pain NO
can a dead person feel pain NO

~Lady Fiya~ 03-03-06 07:51 PM

Hell comes from a word that originally means grave? Okay your point is? Please know what you are trying to say before you go any further.

I'mma show you through example:
prescribe - (in the dictionary means) to set down as a rule or a guide; to recommend or order the use of (a drug or treatment), etc.

DOES THE WORD 'PRESCRIBE' NOT EXIST SIMPLY BECAUSE the origin of the words, 'prae + scribere' means 'before + write'???

Yes, the word does exist. -_-

Get my point?

Dirty Nigga 03-03-06 07:52 PM

You ain't changed a bit. ^

Indeph 03-03-06 07:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Lady Fiya~
Hell comes from a word that originally means grave? Okay your point is? Please know what you are trying to say before you go any further.

I'mma show you through example:
prescribe - (in the dictionary means) to set down as a rule or a guide; to recommend or order the use of (a drug or treatment), etc.

DOES THE WORD 'PRESCRIBE' NOT EXIST SIMPLY BECAUSE the origin of the words, 'prae + scribere' means 'before + write'???

Yes, the word does exist. -_-

Get my point?



:(:(:( :(:(:(

Sean Gunner 03-03-06 08:02 PM

Word to so many people trying to disprove beliefs since people on here are actually starting to believe.

Sean Gunner 03-03-06 08:08 PM

http://www.lus.net/index.html

Might do you all some good to read that site.

~Lady Fiya~ 03-03-06 08:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by locknes
this means that we die and thats the end of it can a paralyze person feel pain NO
can a dead person feel pain NO


"devoured with burning heat" = consumed/destroyed with fire... I don't care how you look @ it or whether or not you choose to accept it.

The only reason I'm going out my way to REALLY, REALLY explain it is because you said you believe in God and in the Bible. If GOD SAID he would have the people of Israel CONSUMED/DESTROYED WITH FIRE (what people call today -> hell). Then what are you not getting?

In the afterlife which is considered hell/heaven depending on where you go. That's where your punishment/paradise exist. Not what you thinking of as PHYSICALLY any more as you quoted how God said our bodies return to the earth, our souls are not in our graves.

locknes 03-03-06 08:29 PM

^ how can u prove we have souls

Indeph 03-03-06 08:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Lady Fiya~
I don't like answering pms from indeph.



:( why you gotta be so cruel

~Lady Fiya~ 03-03-06 08:39 PM

I'm not here to "prove" anything. I can only tell you what is written in the Bible since that is what you are using to make your statements. I'm trying to keep it less opinion from me and strictly Bible scriptures.

Here's one:

"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."
- Matthew 10:28


This scripture also goes with the there is a hell (according to the bible) argument from before.

Mentor 03-03-06 08:53 PM

yo im probably gon go ta hell for saying this but aint god kinda stupid for sending bad people ta hell..think about it...hell is like in war with heaven right and god is trying ta not let the devil run earth but yet god damns people and sends them to hell giving satan more of a army ts fight with..wouldnt he wanna get people outta hell

Crazy Hades 03-03-06 08:54 PM

cuz zombies are slow and angels could chop through them with their Divine Blades easily?

locknes 03-03-06 09:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Lady Fiya~
"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."
- Matthew 10:28


This scripture also goes with the there is a hell (according to the bible) argument from before.

^ that means to fear death dumass my even the pope that died had admitted that there is no hell but you are not going to change

and whose is in control of hell satin where does it say in the bible satin controls
hell and why would god let him control people
all satin wants is to be seen as a god

i have a hard time seeing that he would do that
and if there is such thing as hell god is sayin revenge is a good which i have a hard time believen

Mentor 03-03-06 09:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy Hades
cuz zombies are slow and angels could chop through them with their Divine Blades easily?


LMFAO wtf yo there's a hell in haiwiaa

~Lady Fiya~ 03-03-06 09:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by locknes
^ that means to fear death dumass my even the pope that died had admitted that there is no hell but you are not going to change

and whose is in control of hell satin where does it say in the bible satin controls
hell and why would god let him control people
all satin wants is to be seen as a god

i have a hard time seeing that he would do that
and if there is such thing as hell god is sayin revenge is a good which i have a hard time believen


Ey watch who you are calling a dumbass. For one, you don't know how to read. Everytime you ask another question I give you something that supports what I am saying out the Bible. You asked HOW DO "I" KNOW WE HAVE SOULS... Does my post not tell you that we have souls and that is the words of JESUS?! OKAY? The word "hell" is coming from Jesus' mouth. What do you not get?! You don't know how to interpret the simplest things.

Read the Bible and your questions you asking (referring to the Bible) will be answered. Otherwise, shut up. Because if you call me a dumbass again, I won't turn the other cheek for you again. Ok?
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Paranoid 03-03-06 09:21 PM

Well if in that case then I'm saved aint I?

~Lady Fiya~ 03-03-06 09:27 PM

By the way, since you acting really confused...

The last scripture in Matthew that I posted means simply that you are not to be afraid of being killed by the hands of a man, it does not KILL your SOUL. What kills your soul and body is hell itself. So before you come arguing with me know what you saying. I'm backing up what I'm saying fine. You just pulling random stuff outta context and ASSUMING that:

1. There is no hell
2. People don't have souls

And you can put the POPE's words over the Bible if you want to... That's YOUR choice, okay. The church is NOT to be put above God's word. If you continue reading throughout the Bible, then you will run across that many times. So, try me some other time. Maybe the same time tomorrow? I got a lot to back up with.

Paranoid 03-03-06 09:32 PM

lol @ fiya, theres no reason to get pissed off about this. It's simply not true.

~Lady Fiya~ 03-03-06 09:43 PM

The reason I get pissed is because making an ass outta himself yet calling me the dumb ass. I don't take kindly to name-calling. That's all. If you think it's not true, then that's you. I'm not gonna beat something into you.

The only reason I'm explaining is because dude "claims" to believe in God and the Bible but he knocking (pretending he doesn't see) every verse I have listed that gives him "answers" to his questions in reference to the Bible.

Sean Gunner 03-03-06 09:46 PM

Get on AIM Fiya. I wanna talk. :)


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