Honestly Why Do you All think Underground is better???
 

seriously

give me a reason


dont come wit no smart ass shit either i actually wanna know why you think that its soo much better

Rap is a way of expressing yourselfs and talkin about what you like and what you see and how you live.......

Dr. Dre talks bout cars,the westcoast,smokin bud,gettin laid..... THATS SHIT WE ALL LOVE!! and you know it...so of course someones gonna talk about shit they love......

I dont see why you have too be all "LYRICAL MIRACLE SPIRITUAL FACTACTUAL MACK DADDY YO MULTIES ARE THE SHIT" yeah your gonna say "well people just dont understand what there saying" do you think someones gonna wanna pull a dictionary out of there asses just too fuckin know what the fuck a rappers saying??? since when is rap all about "LYRICS" and shit last Time i checked it was about having fun and rappin about what you love.......
Since when is having an oppurtunity too make a living off somthing you do selling out??? Everyone no matter who the fuck you are loves going too the club partying having fun so thats what kinda music they gonna make.....i aint even tryin too knock underground cats like Immortal and shit....but damn do you honestly have too be like him too be dope??? i dont think soo...fuck 50 CENT is better then all you shit talkin faggets on here..at least i can go through one of his verses without gettin bored outta my mind......i'm expecting someonet oo come in here and start some bullshit but still whats good with this i wanna know what you think

I made a thread like this around 3 or 4 weeks ago...

Dude there is maybe 3 actual hip hop heads at this site... Most cats are just naieve poser cunts that THINK they know what their talking about.......

As for this thread.. Your right.. To an extent...
The difference is a lot of underground heads actually make raps that stay true to how hip hop should be by keeping the shit strictly about the lyrics.. Hip hop IS about lyrics, no matter what some morons try to tell you.. The beats and hooks are just tools to sell your lyrics...

Underground heads problem with mainstream heads are a mixture of having no respect for their petty little gay attempts at writing lyrics.... And jeolousy for the fact that these guys are selling so much more & living in the spotlight for their sub-par talent lacking music that doesent keep it real at all..

At the end of the day... The most successful artists are always the ones that create a style thats a mixture of both..........*shrugs*

I listen to Dre and underground, if mainstream is good, ill listen to it...im not the type to say only underground only underground, cuz i do listen to eminem and nas well eminem when he was good, as long as its good ill listen to it, but mainstream today just isnt good straight up, like nos said it is about lyrics, if 2 people are talking about 1 subject, and 1 person says it in a more intriguing way with wordplay and shit i'd rather listen to him cuz i like thinking about what the person says rather then them just flat out saying it which is what everyone in mainstream is doing today and everything is just royally fucked, yea you can make money off this as a profession, but that shouldnt be the ONLY thing on peoples minds, if a 50 cent verse intrigues you more then a canibus verse or chino xl or eminem etc., then you have problems and your mind is too simple, and thats what i think, if you dont know what the word theyre saying means then look it up and stop being lazy, you expand your vocabulary and the line might actually be fuckin genius if you know what that word means and can put it together.

I like Mainstream better but I think Underground is known for better lyrics.

and to answer the thread title i think its better cuz it actually stimulates my mind, im not one that goes to clubs and parties and shit so obviously im not gonna be listenin to 50 type music, i like shit that you could really think about and hits you hard either personally or another level that gives you a higher respect for that artist.

Well i'm partying wit my friends havin a good time and shit i aint 18 yet so i gotta go when its all ages night at the clubs but when it is u know i'm there....and shit..i'm known around my town..and a lil bit in washington.....I aint tryin too be the biggest there is cuz i know i problay wont soo thats why i'm sticking too my goals........which is being big in the state...and i rap bout my life and shit but still it aint all about that too me its about too have fun and just being cool with it

I don't have to pull out a dictionary cuz I understand what they're saying. Most of mainstream doesn't appeal to me just because the intelligence isn't at my level, and I want to feel like I can connect to the people, and the only way I can is if I can see their intelligence in their lyrics. If I'm hearing some hood/good or blue/shoe stuff, I can't really connect.

Some mainstream I like, but honestly I like intelligence, and that shows more in Underground then it does in mainstream.

^basically...

i read/think about shit most people dont and i guess that categorizes me as undergroud or listens to those artists, since 99% of mainstream is the complete opposite and does the same thing over and over

I like underground because it makes me feel good because of the sound and words it makes come out.

I'm still curious as to who those 3 are that you keep mentioning.

But I don't necessarily think underground is better. I just like good music, and a good portion of that happens to be underground. I don't really like hearing the same stuff over and over, so that's one of the reasons I don't like a lot of commercial rappers.

i ve been waitin 4 a thread like this.........

Nos... is kinda rite..but man.. i am a hip hop head.....
if u look at muscians like De la Soul hu are mainstream n underground ish...compared 2 faggots like Gunit..??? wtf is that?

hip hop wuz allbout self xpression sure its bout parties n shit ... like dre..but if u listen 2 dre.. he speaks tha truth.... he talks bout his life.... he had parties n shit soo talks bout that shit... u kno... he also has emotional shit like the message... n deep shit liek wats tha difference. n shit.

u gotta keep ur ear open... main stream 2 me is fuckd up shit.. talkin bout fuckin wheels hus got more tits n hoes . hus got tha biggest rims??... i mean fuck that shit... i luv tht shit up 2 a certain xtenct.... wit jay-z n shit.. but faggot bitches liek Jermaine dupri .??? nuff said

Eminem..... uses his head? think bout it..... listen 2 shit like..... lose yourself.. wich is fuckin dope... compared 2 My band?? pop-y bullshit... wich is catchy??

Wu-tan.... they sick.. u hear them talk bout.... .like hoes n cars EVRY SONG ??
i like both versions...
biggie spoke the truth he mixd it up soo did pac.he wuz more underground ... tlakin bout life rather than make up shit n wishd he had??

50????????wtf??????? he talks bout how poor he is... n is 1 of tha richest motha fuckaz in usa?..................

i rest mi case.

props 2 tha person hu made ths thread...

i like mainstream, but its dying, if peoples whole life consist of snapping, and rockin wit it, and shyt then they r fuking lames

The key is life. Alot of people are just unrealistic to me. It's entertaining for a while but 90% of these rappers are Gangstalicious (boondocks) renting a jet they don't own talking bout squeezing triggers when they're squeezing themselves and the cars and....that shit get old. The underground rappers actually have to make it so they have to be the best through any means which is normally just being the better lyricist. Half the fun for me is going damn that was complex but that's not for most. The more intellectual rappers feel the more intellectual rhymes and complexity but if you just want to bounce to a good beat then you can listen to anything.



and no 50 cent isn't better than half the cats on this site, he's actually about at their level

and i think nos meant 5 9th..............

haha..what a loser....

Styles have advanced far beyond only being able to rap about what you love. But the "fun" aspect will forever be present. If you have fun doing what you do, and you can be original about it, with your own lyrical arrangements, then you're that much better already.

True, those are things we all love. But is it really that great when you hear everyone talking about the same thing?

It's not, moron.
Having the passion of hip hop in you, and making music you enjoy is one thing. If you sign a major deal, you can bet your ass you wont have as much creative freedom. If a major label gives you money, they're paying you. If you're signing to them for an amount of money, they're buying your musical rights. If they buy your musical rights off you, that means you've sold your musical rights to them. That's where the "sell" prefix originates. "Out" refers to the change in your image demanded by the label, which is a result of you signing to them.

So until you tell me what's so bad about good lyrics, I'll leave you with a quote.

When people suffer tonight... lord knows I try

^^^^^^^^^^

i agree wit evryfin u said... but.....
hiphop wuz also created 4 tha party type... but 50 motha fUCKIN cent is a cock suckin homo....... hes a faggot..

i mean he doesnt do shit 4 hip-hop.....

eminem did... he kept it real... 2pac did biggie did.. they all talkd bout life.
n shit...

This is the funniest shit i've ever heard

not even lyrics wise is he on the level of anyone on this site.....

I can actually enjoy his shit.....there aint really too many peoples shits here i can

theres like...3 or 4 people here i like better than 50 cent...


but thats it lmao

Damn bro, that's pretty bogus putting him down that low.

Well.............................................. ....

You still haven't explained to me why it's bad to have quality lyrics.

This is exactly like debating why do you like art.

I could look at a picaso painting and say "wow thats really deep and meaningful"
and then another person would sya "wtf yo dat dont look like a person, and da colors messed up yo"

^get on AIM son.......

cause mainstream sucks ..............................................

underground is better than 99% of mainstream

^truth

underground usually doesnt try to please the retards or current trends

Is this why Past Tense "doesn't want to do stupid music" anymore?

underground - you can battle and gain real respect, without the media gettin it twisted, but you do have to deal with alotta niggaz who THINK they can rap, when some are just trash, its realler and about the lyrics more, none of this chingy poofter bullshit

commercially - its more arrogant, niggaz think they can rap betta than you cause theyr image is better, it depends all on image, this is the reason real people in hiphop are poorer than faggots like 50 cent, this is more about image