AIDS from a kiss?
 

They say AIDS can only be spread sexually since it's your blood, which is in all bodily fluids and it only takes 1 cell of the virus on 1 blood cell.


But isn't saliva a bodily fluid? oh wait...it sure is....so wait..if AIDS transfers through the blood cells in bodily fluids....how do I know I can't get it from the saliva in a kiss, or even airborne saliva like a sneeze carries colds and flu's?


Hey...wait a second....they can detect your blood-alchohol level by making you breathe into a 'breathalizer'. Wait...a sec...blood....alchohol...level...from my breath?

Blood cells are even clustered in your breath.

So how do you know you can't actually contract HIV AIDS in the exact same way we catch chicken pox, colds, flus, and virtually every other disease or plague that humanity has ever seen?

^^pfftt..yeh right, people get HIV from laying someone else in the ass, and there NO spit in there at all!!

Just the blood cells in your fecal matter.

lmao, yeah, you're right, the govt apparantly dosen't tell us everything.

You can't get aids from kissing.


The whole world would be crawling with aids then.

there is obviously some scienfic fact on this. or there is a reason. but I'm not gonna look for it cuz i could careless about aids.

you can get a cold, flu, etc. from kissing, and the whole world ain't crawling with colds and flus is it?

THINK!

Why you're saying it's not possible makes no sense.

Beacause we have shoots that we take.

Where also immune to it.

Flu's and colds have been around since forever.

aids hasn't.

you can get a cold, flu, etc. from kissing, and the whole world ain't crawling with colds and flus is it?

THINK!

Why you're saying it's not possible makes no sense.

"AIDS hasn't been around as long as colds and flus" isn't any reason why you can't catch it from saliva.

seeing that virii mutate and evolve in order to thrive and spread, if anything it'd be a reason why it CAN.

You dont understand.

Flu's and colds are a different virus than aids.

it spreads different.

has alot to do with the human system. its not as easy as you think with the blood cells mixing.

"bloodcells mixing" is the way AIDS is transmitted, what are you talking about?

Saliva has the same blood as anything other bodily fluid.

you take saliva into your bloodstream in a kiss.


what dosen't add up here to you?

^^I understand that you feel that way, but there's been many cases of people catching AIDs from their partner/spouse that had it though they had no sexual contact. If you think you have to have an open sore in your mouth inorder to ingest someone elses saliva into your blood stream, that's not 100% accurate. The same way you may experience bleeding with things like strep throat is because way you ALWAYS have an open pathway to your bloodstream right in the back of your throat in your mucous membranes where your oral and nasal passage connects. Add to that, everything you ingest orally and swallow gets taken into your blood stream as your body breaks it down and uses it.

We already know the human mouth is receptive to the virus orally since it's well known that you can contract HIV AIDS through oral sex - oral cuts and sores or NOT. "It only takes one cell" remember?

Prior to 1997, the CDC (Center for Disease Control) denied any likleyhood that HIV AIDS could be contracted from kissing. The CDC has since altered that statement and have stated that the spread of the HIV AIDS virus IS possible through kissing:

"French kissing and the CDC

Continuous French kissing could damage the skin of the mouth, gums or lips, and for this reason the CDC advises against kissing an infected person in this way, since the disease can be carried in saliva."

[found here: http://www.anytestkits.com/aids-virus-kissing.htm]


"Because of the potential for contact with blood during "French" or open-mouthed kissing, the CDC continues to recommend against engaging in this activity with an infected person".

[found here:http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9707/10/nfm.aids.kiss/]

Answer: HIV has been found in saliva. It lands up there due to blood flowing into the oral cavity from broken mucous membranes/sores. In theory therefore this body fluid should be able to infect someone else.

[found here:http://www.petech.ac.za/aids/1b%20N...ARD%202001.htm]



It would seem we're sitting a little too comfortably on the assurance that kissing isn't AS likely as sexual contact and mistaking that for UN likely. The CDC has already come foward and said that it's possible. Naturally, the CDC down plays this by saying it's even MORE likely in the cases or open sores or cuts orally which are more receptive to transmission.

After looking into it my self, I discovered that "an open cut or sore" would also include your gums bleeding during brushing or flossing, and the gums are yet another orally direct pipeline to the bloodstream. Chapped lips. Cold sores. A scratch on the surface of your gum. Even a the damaged mucous membranes of a 'sore throat' would be considered an oral "open sore".

We've already discovered that we can contract AIDS through mosquitos, though that was originally thought to be impossible. We found out you can get AIDS through a blood transfusion, though that was originally thought impossible. Though the CDC says that it IS possible and that saliva contains bloodcells which contain the HIV AIDS virus, why are blinding our selves by saying it isn't? Come to terms with reality and protect your self.

Well you can't get it from air borne saliva because there isn't enough to hold the cells, same with sweat. You need to drink a glass of saliva or something in order to even have a chance of contracting it. Blood is the main way, but it is possible. Sweat drops are not big enough to transfer AIDS.

welll HIV is the virus, and its like there isnt THAT much of the virus in the saliva, u need ALOT to cause it, like someone else said in the thread........ and the only way kissin could cause it without havin like a gallon of their saliva is if like both of u had alotta cuts in ur mouth, or coldsores.......

^^both you guys read my last post above you.

u are right that u can contract it from oral sex, but even that is considered VERY RARE..... making kissing almost impossible unless ur there kissin for 2 hours with someone...... and im sure u could find sumthin better to do than kiss after the first 10 minutes, lmao

I don't understand, what's the difference between 10 minutes and 10 seconds? what happens after 10 minutes that makes it possible that dosen't happen in 10 seconds?

^^true. it's a brave new world we're living in.
but make no mistake about it, I knew the answer to this question before I asked it. I asked it to get people thinking outside the box, like many questions I ask. :)

and it worked. you learned something :)

yes, but its very rare. i mean, you can get AIDS from hitting somebody if you think about it that way. say you have a sore on your hand and your bloody their nose up. there are all different kinds of ways you can think of, but sex is just the most obvious and common, and therefore is devoted the most time in prevention.

last page you're sayin it's impossible, this page you're saying "yeh, I guess it IS possible"...but you didn't learn anything...
you're one of those "I knew that" types apprantly


Springsteen, yeah you're right, but I wanted to focus on kissing, not something obvious like somenoe elses blood on you or in an open wound.

^^^what ever ou say man ahhaahah ok.

lmao... why did he say that?

a girl got aids cus a guy exculldentally spit in a girls eye ......................

"to look right" is my guess lmao. At least it was entertaining lol.




I'd have to see tht one to believe it.

well it aint gonna be on a video tv show called " u got spit on by a aids person"...........its true though they tested her

^^no TV shows, but it'd be written about in news articles all over the place, which means that it would definitely be online.

I'm not saying it idn't happen, I'm just saying I'd have to see that one to believe it.

Virus are different. They are contracted differtently, They react differently, and they are treated differently. The reason we can't contract A.I.D.S. from a kiss from our saliva because our saliva is not potent enough. Yes people can contract aids from taking it in the ass because of the type of tissue the inside of your ass is made up of. The tissue inside ya mouth, your ass hole, the inside of your penis, and your vagina, are made up of a special type of tissue that leaks into your blood stream. You cannot get A.I.D.S. from kissing due to slavia swapping. But you can get A.I.D.S. from kissing if someone has a cut in their toung or mouth or inside of the cheek and there is actual blood.

^^I understand that you feel that way, but there's been many cases of people catching AIDs from their partner/spouse that had it though they had no sexual contact. If you think you have to have an open sore in your mouth inorder to ingest someone elses saliva into your blood stream, that's not 100% accurate. The same way you may experience bleeding with things like strep throat is because way you ALWAYS have an open pathway to your bloodstream right in the back of your throat in your mucous membranes where your oral and nasal passage connects. Add to that, everything you ingest orally and swallow gets taken into your blood stream as your body breaks it down and uses it.

We already know the human mouth is receptive to the virus orally since it's well known that you can contract HIV AIDS through oral sex - oral cuts and sores or NOT. "It only takes one cell" remember?

Prior to 1997, the CDC (Center for Disease Control) denied any likleyhood that HIV AIDS could be contracted from kissing. The CDC has since altered that statement and have stated that the spread of the HIV AIDS virus IS possible through kissing:

"French kissing and the CDC

Continuous French kissing could damage the skin of the mouth, gums or lips, and for this reason the CDC advises against kissing an infected person in this way, since the disease can be carried in saliva."

[found here: http://www.anytestkits.com/aids-virus-kissing.htm]


"Because of the potential for contact with blood during "French" or open-mouthed kissing, the CDC continues to recommend against engaging in this activity with an infected person".

[found here:http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9707/10/nfm.aids.kiss/]

Answer: HIV has been found in saliva. It lands up there due to blood flowing into the oral cavity from broken mucous membranes/sores. In theory therefore this body fluid should be able to infect someone else.

[found here:http://www.petech.ac.za/aids/1b%20N...ARD%202001.htm]



It would seem we're sitting a little too comfortably on the assurance that kissing isn't AS likely as sexual contact and mistaking that for UN likely. The CDC has already come foward and said that it's possible. Naturally, the CDC down plays this by saying it's even MORE likely in the cases or open sores or cuts orally which are more receptive to transmission.

After looking into it my self, I discovered that "an open cut or sore" would also include your gums bleeding during brushing or flossing, and the gums are yet another orally direct pipeline to the bloodstream. Chapped lips. Cold sores. A scratch on the surface of your gum. Even a the damaged mucous membranes of a 'sore throat' would be considered an oral "open sore".

We've already discovered that we can contract AIDS through mosquitos, though that was originally thought to be impossible. We found out you can get AIDS through a blood transfusion, though that was originally thought impossible. Though the CDC says that it IS possible and that saliva contains bloodcells which contain the HIV AIDS virus, why are blinding our selves by saying it isn't? Come to terms with reality and protect your self.

why would you WANT to know this kinda shit, now you're not gonna kiss any girl you meet unless shes tested? =/

always knew u could get it from kissing...they say if u have any open cuts in the mouth in which exposes cells blah blah and ur kissing or drinking behind someone with aids and they some how have contact with that open sore or cut in your mouth with their saliva then you can get it that way.. BUT one thing IM afraid of is Flys..and mosquitos..how they suck blood from anything and everything and move on to the next..what if they suck the blood of some one with hiv?

HMMM a condom for french kissing or we can just put a flavored condom on our toungs and kiss away. But anyways i guess this means we just have to be even more carefull. Or kiss with condoms over our toungs.

haha yup. and mosquitos are already a known.

And Chris you're right, you definitely do have to be more careful. This is the age we live in man. Your salvation is built on knowledge.



It's something to keep in mind while you're on your way to geing head over heels about someone man. Gotta pump your brakes and take it slow, and if they cant' respect that then fuckem - ain't gonna be the first time they did it. A dose of reality could mean the difference between you changing your life and you losing it.