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is it time to turn rap around?
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Is it time we all attempted to make a change in rap for good.!! Ridding of the glamorized gun play, gangbanging and all that shit that kids will be growing up hearing and thinking its cool to do?!! When will it stop?!!!! |
yea man.................me and you shouldnt beef either............lets have our battle...and let that be the end of it..........werd :thumbup:
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man internet beef is simply fun to me, theres nothing personaly involved.
But rap needs a change for good! |
For rap to change the main base has to change. The ghetto enviornment needs to change. People are gonna talk about how shit is and its not a pretty happy violent free area. If you want rap to stop having beef, get ppl to stop beefing so much. Want ppl to stop talking abou guns? Get the guns out our neighborhoods. If you dont do that then watch it get even worse.
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why the fuck not? If there was no 50 talking about his daily gun play, if there was no glamorised gangbanging, it wouldnt be as instense.
Of course it will still naturally happen, but if the mainstream simply tried reaching the younger generation and explain how wrong it is. Then they will grow to be wise on the issue and not be trigger happy like the 25-30 year olds, who grew up ahead of our generation. if this generation we are growing up in,makes plans to reach the generation after us then it will slowly be a reaccuring effect. or... we could niot give a fuck and let peopel glamorize killing someone and watch this continue to happen year after year. |
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dotn act like i gotta get rid of the guns, thats the impossible. But what WE can do as a hip hop generation is teach the next generation coming up. The ones ahead of us, they are out of our hands, But the ones after us are in our hands. |
Nothing is impossible. And you're right this generation can help the next, but it'll take an ALLOVER effort. If only like 2 rappers do it than they'll simply go to the rappers who are talking about it. I'm pretty sure dipset isnt gonna NOT do it anymore.
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fuck'a dipset.
Do you even beleive in yourself bro? YOU can make it to help the change, by the time someone our age is in the spotlight, dipset are not going to be heard of. The next generation of rap is us. Do you not see that, why cant we learn off the generation before us and see there huge mistake they made with rap, and turn it around. Im not saying rap about flowers and porch monkeys. But we can speak on real shit. I know, speaking about what you see is natural, but look at tupac, he rapped about what he saw in hopes to change it, which to me is fucked up,cause he ended up some what glamorising it all. All im saying, is the general content in rap has to change, before we are the ones passing on to the next generation that gunplay and gangbanging is cool. |
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its not just rappers look at arnold schewzner (or however u spell his name) and silvester stalone they glamorize gunplay and its worse cause they do it visualy rappers do it with words man sex and violence in rap music will allways be here unless there is a different theme u say some real shit but ( your real shit )is no theme |
wtf @ no theme.
wtf @ arnold swartzanager WTF @ YOU!! do kids idolise arnold? no do kids idolise 50 cent and think hes cool and shit? yes. Rap fuels these movies. By creating a fanbase that likes guns gangs killing and murder. it creates reason for movie producers to take hold of the hip hop fanbase and make movies relating to the shit. Sylvetor stylone?? when was the last time you heard a kid say "stalones dope, he doesnt give a fuck hell kill anyone" Plus its a movie most people know its fake. when was the last time you heard a young kid say " 50's dope, he doesnt give a fuck he'll kill anyone"? being a rapper,they instantly think what he says he does, he does. Theme= gimick. Gimick= minstream mainstream= wack. feel? |
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Bro...that's not the same thing...Arnold's gun play is so over the top, it's cartoonish. But, talking about "stickin someone to eat" is very real to alotta people bro. I doubt someone in the hood sees Terminator then goes out to blow up a big rig. 1 |
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nice one. and were do you live? ireland or some shit were gang voilence only comes in the form of soccer hulligans. nice attitude dick! |
It's time for rap to turn around yes...
But it's gotta be an all around effort like you said. You gotta plan tho? |
o well
I'm droppin a track today that has nothing but violence in it it's just a topical...like a movie on track...daz all |
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i also doubt that if some hears 50 say he shot 50 people and go out and shoot 50 people crime and gangs in the streets existed way before rap |
^yes they did, but rap glamorised it.
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yeh ok, Im not here to argue bro, good for you, your officially cool cause you have "real gangs"
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have you heard of the godfather and scarfaces if you wanna talk Al pacino is the one who glamorised it |
omg kid.
look at the facts and stop tryna prove me wrong. Who today is having a huge influence on young kids? Rap stars! Scarface influenced the rapstars of today,thats why you hear them talk abotu it. Im talking about us influencing the next generation of hip hop to come up. Why come in here set out to prove me wrong and go against what i say.? |
People always find reasons to do dumb shit. Remember when grand theft auto 3 came out? Murders everywhere. People killed people over the catacher in the rye, A BOOK. People killed ppl over terminator I remember it a bunch of suburban kids got too happy with it. And kids did idolize the terminator, WHO DIDNT idolize him? People killed ppl over friday the 13th, people are just like that. Don't point the finger at rap. Point it at people.
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yeah I already started writing about it today
shits dumb |
see u do not love hop hop!! if you gonna say rap glamorizes it then why be a rapper?cuz there fore you are gonna want kids to be influenced to do something else...ok if you aint rappin bout drugs, money, females {hoes}, guns, and killin..you reaching like two people who aint into that anyway..people know right from wrong..now there are some dumb fucks who make u think this way but at the same time they getting it from somewhere else anyway
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the difference between movie stars doing it and rappers doing it, is you know movies are fake and it's all props...when a rapper does it and claims that's how they really live, you don't know it's just a "persona" being sold to you, the public...that's the difference right there...rappers careers are based on them being "real" so they will never admit that it's just a persona and not who they really are...but an actor plays a different role in every movie therefore, you can't judge them on the same level, at all and no, this won't ever stop...sex sells, so guns and violence...the industry is all about money, they don't care what happens to who their music inlfluences, if it influenced you, that means you've probably bought the album, which is a big plus for them...the record label doesn't fcare about the rapper or the general audiance...but hey, as long as they're buying, nothing else matters in the big picture and grand scheme of things in other words, stop buying this crap ass "bang bang shoot 'em up, I got whips and chains like a dominatrix" rap and the labels will be forced to change what they put out...they only supply what the public demands, demand something different and stop buying this CRAP and they'll give us better artists with more to say besides, how to get a bitch to suck your dick, how to sell and or process a drug, and how to cock a got damn gun |
No. It was time to turn rap around 3 years ago. Nobody did anything about it, and rap became what it is now.
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normally I'd agree, but it was time to turn rap around when Tupac got shot everything happening now was foreseeable...but if you wanna get technical yeah, when 50Cent started with his trash and bullshit after GRODT someone should've shot HIM in the head and ended the bullshit |
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you gotta understand rap and music IS ART. I've seen r&b girls sing about being cheated on when they never have been. I've seen rockstars talk about heaven when they've never been there. It's all art. Rappers can talk about guns if they want, art is whatever you see it as. Like eminem said "I am whatever you say I am". People can take art however they want. If 32093240 rappers talk about guns than that's the message they're getting across. Life does imitate art, but art is any type of expression. INCLUDING TALKING. You can't slap a limit on what people can talk about because people don't have a strong enough mind. If I told you everytime you use the word 'the' I wanted to kill somebody would you stop? Sometimes you gotta get your shit out there. Tupac never killed a man in his life, but he has in his songs. Music is music. You wanna stop the violence rap causes? The shit is inside the people. |
look, I'm not saying slap a limit on and stifle someone's ability to express themselves but is that really ALL there is to talk about?...no...drugs, guns, cars, money, hos, it's all easier totalk about than real issues...I'm pretty sure all them niggas have been in love with a chick, don't rap about it...have learned something in school...don't rap about it...and I could go on and on about what they DON'T rap about but I'm sure has happened in their life...nobody's life revolves around drugs that damn much, I'm sorry...there's way more to talk about than what the average mainstream rapper talks about...rap about politics, you care about the 'hood so much rap about the injustices you see in your 'hood...make it known how you grew up, without glamourizing it and making it look "cool" to some white suburban kid that bought your CD or making it or "okay" for the little boy in your 'hood growing up in your same situation to see that the only way out is selling drugs like you did...there's more than one way to succeed, I just wish rappers with as much influence as they have on youth today, would use it for more positive things |
I definetly feel you on that. It kinda gives everyone a twisted veiw on reality and thinkin there's no possibility for anything better. I rap about being in love alot cause I am :love: Niggas just need to stop fearing the good, then rappers won't be scared to comfront shit. It's funny how we spend 374327498 songs "YOU SCARED MUTHAFUCKA YOU SCARED", and then be scared of what could help you the most.
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and I know Tupac never killed anyone but he talked about it in his songs, but that's not ALL he talked about...Tupac didn't even had a criminal record or arrest record until AFTER he "became" Tupac...but that just proves my point, rappers have a public persona that doesn't always eQuate to who and or what they really are...Tupac saw a lot, but doesn't mean he did it himself...does that discredit him as being a great lyricist and one of the greatest rappers of all time? by no means...rappers need to realize their influence and do things that will cause positive reactions to their music...they need to realize that someone buying an album of yours is not the ultimate "positive" |
Truth L. Veracity.
But then again, the positive doesnt sell..... yet! So we can also look in the direction of the labels, offering money for rap that is influenced by the negative,instead of the positive. At times i wish money was abolished money from rap all together, but then again, that wouldnt prevail the influence. rap can be life changing for the next generation of youth. Or it can be downgrading and teach anger instead of unity and commitment to life. |
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exactly like in "trapped" he's rappin bout crooked police arrestin him and shit when in real life he never had a confliction with a crooked cop but after that song there was that oakland police incident where they beat the shit out of him just for jaywalking and all that...but like in "trapped" he was talkin bout how he saw it in other people's perspectives he himself never been through that shit...u think eminem takes as much drugs as he says he does in his raps..listen to his slim shady ego more than 88% of that shit is all words |
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stop being a pussy. man up. Majority of rappers start life Alot worse before they get into rap serious. |
i think this is all gay
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roflmao @ blowin up a big rig, that'd be mad funny to me actually if someone did that cuz of terminator |
would it
cuz i do that shit all the time |
look this thread is pointless because there is some one who is always gonna complain about hip hop the, backpack rappers will complain the theres not enough skill in the game.
the concious cats will complain that rap is to violent the gansta rappers will complain that there not talkin about the streets the horrorcore rappers will complain theres not enough imagery just accept hip hop for what it is instead of what its not . |
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